My Experience in buying PBN links
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T2tkid
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- Oct 13, 2010
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I was shopping for PBN links for a client and took samples from a few sellers here. Check the links through semrush and ALL OF THEM has no single visitor/visit.
I was going to start a thread to know if a link from 10 PBNs with DA 40+ and no single visit per month, will push my site upward in SERP. I check some of the articles published on the pbn sites and they are not ranking on the top 200 for their TITLE.
Also, I purchased a PBN from a guy many months ago, and all the domain were deindexed!
- Feb 19, 2016
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@BassTrackerBoats @Zwielicht is it possible to report a certain seller directly to the mod who reviewed the service to avoid the risk of neg SEO?
Guys, for those struggling with seo, it still isn't rocket science. Forget the BS pbn services and make your own.
1. Search domains related to your njche on expireddomains.net with decent metric.
Get domains that already have archived articles so that you can use the same articles on your new site. If the domain and the articles are still indexed then that's what you want to be buying.
Buy the domains under different names etc to avoid footprints.
2. If you are struggling for cash, find a bunch of free hosting providers and host the domains there. This will also give you ip diversity.
3. Set up the sites using archived articles. Even use the old design if necessary.
That's it, bob's your uncle! You have a bunch of sites on a shoestring ready to boost your site.
1. Search domains related to your njche on expireddomains.net with decent metric.
Get domains that already have archived articles so that you can use the same articles on your new site. If the domain and the articles are still indexed then that's what you want to be buying.
Buy the domains under different names etc to avoid footprints.
2. If you are struggling for cash, find a bunch of free hosting providers and host the domains there. This will also give you ip diversity.
3. Set up the sites using archived articles. Even use the old design if necessary.
That's it, bob's your uncle! You have a bunch of sites on a shoestring ready to boost your site.
- Mar 10, 2010
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You would be better clicking the report button for the service and explaining why you were reporting. Reports are kept confidential in terms of who did the reporting and it would also put more than on set of eyes on the situation.
Although the community sees one Mod approving a service it is not unusual for the marketplace Mods to discuss a service in the approval process.
We won't say who reported and odds are we won't even say they were reported but that we need to do an additional review of the service.
soum500
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- Oct 8, 2018
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I use only rental pbns, in most cases the seller is obliged to provide you with a service and quality links if you want to keep paying each month. I always buy rented links, I avoid permanent pbns links
sarutobi87
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Please mention names or at least report them. I have stopped buying from the marketplace for now. You begin to wonder where all the +ve reviews are coming from.
I've bought a lot of PBN links from here and have stopped now because a lot of the things said here are true.
Every batch of links(bar the rental ones) had at least a few domains deindexed in the first 4-6 months.
Most PBNs here have obl over 20 which is too much.
98% of the sold PBNs here have ZERO organic traffic.
Not saying they do not work, they do, but the results are usually not for a very long time, as when the pbns are deindexed it is all for nothing.
I cannot really report any of the sellers, they sell crap but the claims they made in the sales threads are correct(like strong domain etc. yes strong(links) but 0 organic traffic and spammed with sites from all niches)
A site of mine got manual penalty for PBN links and I asked one of the very popular sellers to remove the links, he said he will and did nothing.
Every batch of links(bar the rental ones) had at least a few domains deindexed in the first 4-6 months.
Most PBNs here have obl over 20 which is too much.
98% of the sold PBNs here have ZERO organic traffic.
Not saying they do not work, they do, but the results are usually not for a very long time, as when the pbns are deindexed it is all for nothing.
I cannot really report any of the sellers, they sell crap but the claims they made in the sales threads are correct(like strong domain etc. yes strong(links) but 0 organic traffic and spammed with sites from all niches)
A site of mine got manual penalty for PBN links and I asked one of the very popular sellers to remove the links, he said he will and did nothing.
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- Apr 3, 2009
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Very true, but sometimes you just need that extra boost from some powerful domains that are otherwise out of the budget.
Agreed with everything up until this last part. I haven't heard of that before, but if it's the case just disavow the links.
I've had to disavow many PBN links from sellers here (although @WebMinati will debate this point with me
). Money down the drain, but no matter how much due diligence you do, it's often hard to know the details of the final product until you see the results.^^^Nailed it! There are a handful of good PBN sellers on here, but when buying from the marketplace, one needs to analyze how the seller delivered their product at that price. If they are offering a price too good to be true, then it is just that. It's amazing to see that some buyers think that 50 links for $50 is not going to end up in disaster (if they are pointing the links to a money site).
Let's take a quick look at a PBN business model:
1. Domain acquisition -> a premium auction domain with any beginner metrics starts at $50-100 USD (and rapidly goes up from there)
2. Article writing -> Non spun content starts at $1/100 words
3. Hosting -> There's a large range here and if you don't want a neighborhood full of spammers, then it's going to cost more
4. Time -> Creating websites, adding articles, managing hosting companies, etc. etc.
5. Software -> Subscriptions to metrics tools, uptime, deindex monitoring, etc.
6. (AND MOST IMPORTANTLY) Customer service -> The time taken to chat with each customer and find the best solution for their needs.
Don't worry @Branson_00 , many beginner PBN buyers (including myself) naively walked into their own demise. Before buying, reach out to the sellers for a chat, see if they care enough. @BlackBDO , myself and some others are a good start. They are out there, you just need to dig
Agreed with everything up until this last part. I haven't heard of that before, but if it's the case just disavow the links.
I've had to disavow many PBN links from sellers here (although @WebMinati will debate this point with me
Have you gotten a manual penalty? Google wants you to show "effort" simply disavowing is not effort to them. They want the links gone.
Maybe you can lift a penalty only with disavowing, but the chances are not that high as you are dealing with humans.
The seller you tagged has obl equal/over 28(total site obl not homepage) but still one of the better ones, the best looking ones for sure(for me) Haven't bought recently so obl might have changed.
Haven't used your services and cannot comment.
To clarify I have stopped buying pbns altogether not just from BHW, outside it is even worse. So in general a lot of crap is sold, it is not a bhw thing, here a lot of threads are not even approved(good)
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NO-CLUE-SEO
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Guys this is a terrible area in BHW, I learn a lot from these PBN, Links sellers here, Some off the sellers had over 500 pages in the thread, Some of them come with a fresh tread which I tested, Most of them are selling crap,
Over 20 services I tested the last couple of months, some of them good for less competitive industries, some of them never worth a penny, most of these guys are not giving any link report either and say they want to protect their network,
You can see what sort of links comes once you go through the index link in webmaster, If you able to see my skype discussions with these guys, You would able to see how much begging them not to publish on the thread about the reality about what they are selling.
Just final word be careful when you are purchasing links from BHW, I learn good lesson already. (I guess this admin need to give much priority to maintain the quality of services which sellers are providing time to time anonymously)
Ps.
I'm not telling all links I got useless but the majority of link sellers are worthless for the money.
When you see a PBN link sellers domain and see that it has 10 obl on the homepage you think not bad right. But when you look down the bottom of the page and see there are 70 pages on the next button, ie 70 inner pages because you're links roll of the homepage to inner pages, then you realise why you don't get a push.
The inner pages have no backlinks but built to them, and the pbn seller knows that only the homepage has backlinks built to it, so therefore the innerpages in terms of metrics probably has a PA of 1.
This is why you don't get a push from the so called fantastic PBN.
- Nov 3, 2017
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A lot of people are bashing PBN links sellers in BHW marketplace, but let me tell you the truth - I have checked literally dozens of sellers from here, Fiverr, FB groups, Seoclerk... they are all bad. Literally, every single PBN i have been offered is total crap. Zero traffic, shitty link profile or NO LINKS AT ALL, links to bazillion shady websites (my link in the neighborhood of garbage collectors, clash of clans and Viagra links, how nice is that?), deindexed penalized PBNs and what not. And mind you I am not looking at cheap services.
Clients are to blame as well. Clients that want "the best price" and "40+ DA TF". So for the sellers is race to the bottom. $1 for link. What do you expect to get for that? Pulitzer content and on $500 auctioned domain? Yeaah, nope.
Clients are to blame as well. Clients that want "the best price" and "40+ DA TF". So for the sellers is race to the bottom. $1 for link. What do you expect to get for that? Pulitzer content and on $500 auctioned domain? Yeaah, nope.
- Mar 30, 2018
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Why don't the Pbn sellers make the report 100% as sooner or later those links appear on webmaster tools so what's the point in hiding it. I recently brought a pbn service and am seeing very good results, now I'm planning to go for higher permanent homepage ones. I hope they'll work good.
samrox
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- Jun 20, 2015
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Yes, correct point, But I have a bad experience with fresh PBN provider as well, as mentioned above They hide all the thing behind the term "Secure the Network", What a shame there should be a rule like if the customer asks for live links, the seller should have to provide it. Then I hope this marketplace will become more quality service providers.
- Mar 10, 2010
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The sellers indicate in their original post they are only going to offer X% of links in their reports.
If you are not comfortable with that then don't buy... they are being upfront about what they are offering so you can make a decision based on their sales thread.
- Apr 3, 2009
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Basically because it costs so damn much to acquire a quality network, let alone replace it if it gets deindexed. That's another cost I should have mentioned in my last post, setting aside funds to replace deindexed domains.
I'm sure you go to great lengths to protect the assets that are important to your business. Quality PBN sellers do the same.
When I'm buying PBN links from sellers here, seeing samples and reports offered scares me. It takes the "Private" out of PBN
Sephrata
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- Mar 25, 2017
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People should leave honest reviews, irrespective of experience. If the service does not meet your expectations, then you have ever right to query this with the service provider.
If by this you mean that posting a negative review of a service leads to that service provider negative SEO-ing your site, then I can say with confidence that the BHW staff have zero tolerance for this behaviour.