My Experience in buying PBN links

lifehero said:

Pretty sure i know exactly who your talking about. I just checked and got the email, sites were deindexed. I'm not surprised either, they did not look good at all. idk why the fuk he has a good rep for his pbns?
Which sucks because i sent his links straight to a money article and to one of my higher paying clients, becuase of his good rep on here.
T.A.T. was shit too. I'm gonna have to request refund

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No comment on your words. It was a review copy and he apologized to me and promised to be more cautious. I dealt with him before and he was kind and very friendly and I saw some good results with his service in the past (not major though). But nowadays I am being very carefully picky and won't buy from just anyone.

Name and shame. Otherwise this thread is useless.

The guy is highlighting the dangers of buying pbn links from the marketplace.
We all start looking at the reviews and long list of recommendations, then think to ourselves that the pbn being sold in a particular thread must be soooo good that if I buy it will make my site finally reach that magic no1 spot.

What happens, no movement or it goes down.
Weve all done it and been guilty of laziness.

I too purchased from guys on here who in their threads used ranking graphs to show there pbn works to entice buyers with juicy no1 spots, and what happens. 3 months later still no movement.

The answer is do the work yourself. In all honesty if a PBN has not given you a ranking increase in 2-3 weeks from the time the page is cached in google then it's probably not going to work.

I got an email just last night about permenent homepage links at approx 70$ for 25 links, max obl is 40. Working at price the pbn provider is raking in 70*40=2800 dollars, that's why these pbns are sold.
Added to that fact that I can't see the domains before purchase, the domains purchased for these pbns could cost no more than 10 dollars each if the seller searched for the domains themselves.

250 dollars for domains hosted on the cheapest hosting at 1dollar per month = 12*25dollars = 300 dollars. Total outlay is approx 550dollars. 2800dollars - 550dollars = profit is 2250 dollars. For that profit do you think the seller is going to use 100 dollar domains and waste all that profit?
The seller has to have a high obl just to make it commercially viable.

Up to you to decide.

Jayder said:

Name and shame. Otherwise this thread is useless.

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No good in naming and shaming. this thread just gives the beginners a friendly reminder to do their due diligence.
Also, Naming and Shaming gets your site shit on, royally

Branson_00 said:

No comment on your words. It was a review copy and he apologized to me and promised to be more cautious. I dealt with him before and he was kind and very friendly and I saw some good results with his service in the past (not major though). But nowadays I am being very carefully picky and won't buy from just anyone.

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yeah, im just dissapointed and venting it
mine was review copy and larger order. Although i do have high hopes he will make it right

Anyone who is selling links on deindexed PBNs should be banned. If the network eventually gets out’ed / deindexed well that’s just the game... but if they are actively selling on deindexed domains, you should report them to the admins asap. That is horrid.

fb3003 said:

I doubt anyone is willing to report a seller because of the fear of what seller might do, i.e. negative seo....

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Not if they want to remain a member on here or have a sales thread.

OP
"to discover later (through my special method)"

What is this special method and have you considered that might be flawed ?

When buying PBN links, I will first need to see the sites where my link will go to. Because the article cannot be stand-alone. It needs to have internal links and all that. It needs to be part of the site and long form content so that it adds value. Maybe, Google will decide to only reward pbn links where the pbns are receiving real traffic.

I've had similar experiences, I even reported one of the guys and got their thread closed. Now I'm creating my own PBN.
If these sellers take unlimited number of orders per month, how do u expect that their website will remain high quality and not get penalized.

blinggam said:

Anyone who is selling links on deindexed PBNs should be banned. If the network eventually gets out’ed / deindexed well that’s just the game... but if they are actively selling on deindexed domains, you should report them to the admins asap. That is horrid.

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Truth to be told if you have sizable PBN network its pretty easy to not catch that some PBN got hit. There are ways to automatize, yes, but still happens. So buyers should check what they are buying and ask for refunds in such cases.

This and the fake reviews are killing that section of the marketplace imo ...

so, im about to buy some links to be shared on a pbn, and i read this,
how is that useful for me?
should we all try to buy from all providers until we find a service that's good enough !

The problem is on most PBN service, they only show you 20% at the most. What about 80% that they won't show you. If there are deindendex domains in those 80%, that's bad business for buyer.

phoenix9 said:

The problem is on most PBN service, they only show you 20% at the most. What about 80% that they won't show you. If there are deindendex domains in those 80%, that's bad business for buyer.

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You can see all of them in GWT, you look for links that match the anchors you asked the PBN provider to deliver.
Also if the seller wants to show only %, then, ask to see all metrics, and chose to see 10%, but at your choosing. (then you confirm the ones you've asked for matching the metrics, are good and indexed). That's how I do it with my PBN customers and tbh I never had problems of trust.

doing it this way, because of randomization, there is no way to deliver bad without risking to get caught. Also, in GWT you will see 100% anyway so...

Can someone guide me to a way to check the quality of backLinks.

Also i totally agree with you.
- most of the guys dont know how to check the quality of backLinks.

- the Reviewers are no expert. For a good service and support they will leave a good review. They really can't be blaimed because you place order after reading them.

JB2302 said:

Can someone guide me to a way to check the quality of backLinks.

Also i totally agree with you.
- most of the guys dont know how to check the quality of backLinks.

- the Reviewers are no expert. For a good service and support they will leave a good review. They really can't be blaimed because you place order after reading them.

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See if the content is high quality, see how many referring domain the domain has, see if every article links to a website, is there a bunch of different niches on the domain, has it been spammed, is it indexed, etc

Guys this is a terrible area in BHW, I learn a lot from these PBN, Links sellers here, Some of the sellers had over 500 pages in the thread, Some of them come with a fresh tread which I tested, Most of them are selling crap,

Over 20 services I tested the last couple of months, some of them good for less competitive industries, some of them never worth a penny, most of these guys are not giving any link report either and say they want to protect their network, wonder if we can track links using webmaster why they are not giving report which we paid for.

You can see what sort of links comes once you go through the index link in webmaster, If you able to see my skype discussions with these guys, You would able to see how much begging them not to publish on the thread about the reality about what they are selling.

Just final word be careful when you are purchasing links from BHW, I learn good lesson already. (I guess this admin need to give much priority to maintain the quality of services which sellers are providing time to time anonymously)

Ps.

I'm not telling all links I got useless but the majority of link sellers are worthless for the money.

Damn bois. Seems like PBN threads here are a complete joke.

Time to build.

Hay, want to know
What is your opinion on those monthly pbn services are they good ? And also what about the pbn homepge Backlinks ?

I purchased 2-3 packages with sellers on marketplace but I got some invrease in ranking on my site but it is not as expected as they told. That's why I prefer to do SEO work on my own.
Most of the time I create my own seo plan and purchase the small packages like social links, do follow, guest post etc. With my own custom plan.

BlackBDO said:

You can see all of them in GWT, you look for links that match the anchors you asked the PBN provider to deliver.
Also if the seller wants to show only %, then, ask to see all metrics, and chose to see 10%, but at your choosing. (then you confirm the ones you've asked for matching the metrics, are good and indexed). That's how I do it with my PBN customers and tbh I never had problems of trust.

doing it this way, because of randomization, there is no way to deliver bad without risking to get caught. Also, in GWT you will see 100% anyway so...

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samrox said:

Guys this is a terrible area in BHW, I learn a lot from these PBN, Links sellers here, Some of the sellers had over 500 pages in the thread, Some of them come with a fresh tread which I tested, Most of them are selling crap,

Over 20 services I tested the last couple of months, some of them good for less competitive industries, some of them never worth a penny, most of these guys are not giving any link report either and say they want to protect their network, wonder if we can track links using webmaster why they are not giving report which we paid for.

You can see what sort of links comes once you go through the index link in webmaster, If you able to see my skype discussions with these guys, You would able to see how much begging them not to publish on the thread about the reality about what they are selling.

Just final word be careful when you are purchasing links from BHW, I learn good lesson already. (I guess this admin need to give much priority to maintain the quality of services which sellers are providing time to time anonymously)

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I'm not telling all links I got useless but the majority of link sellers are worthless for the money.

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Just like @samrox said, what's the point send buyer 10-20% link report if we can see it on GWT in the end.