Why you are NOT making Bank

Lightning I felt like you just hopped out of the PC and spoke to my soul. "I'm going to hurt you on purpose, so you can do better." like geez lol.

However, everything you mentioned is right. With everything, comes time. One of the biggest draws to making money online is that people show the end result of people chilling at the crib with little clothes on, do a few things and boom..money in the bank. At least that's how it's marketed, not knowing there's much more that goes into it.

Your words took me out of that fantasy..partly. It's not to say it can't happen...but that comes from years of acquiring new skills and failing a good deal. Once again appreciate the words.. bookmarking this along with T0mmy's pinned thread lol.
 
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LB you did just give me an idea for a project I'm currently working on. Idk why I didn't think of it before. Guess that's why I need to keep rubbing shoulders with the best. ;)
 
I agree. Working a lot is a MUST! I have dabbled around with SEO and IM for over 4 years but every method I was doing I just gave up too fast or didn't realize that a specific thing was not for me. For example, I first discovered SEO and was a noob, followed some guru and failed. Then I went to youtube marketing and made a killing - too easy = I got lazy, did not scale up, had limiting beliefs because I didn't test stuff. That died out and I was back to SEO - the game had gotten harder and it really wasn't for me. I was lured by the idea of passive income but in reality I had no patience to follow through with my plans and wait for rankings.

Now I was put in a do or die situation where I HAD to make money or I will be in a very shit place.. so I started doing social media - I sticked to it after a month of not earning a cent.. and now I am doing nice and scaling up/looking for ways to make even more. The funny thing is that the method I am doing is the oldest trick in the book and I was scared like a lot of other people that the method is saturated to hell (after all, everybody was saying it doesn't work and is saturated). When I decided to give it a go then it blew my mind - there is still so much potential to make money.

So.. what I want to say is: work hard, give a PROPER go at a method, test and see the results yourself and don't listen to the doomsday people, know when to change the method-field (don't get stuck in a fantasy if a method really is not working for you, not suitable for you).
 
Yeah absolutely a progress is made inch-by-inch. One only need to focus and work their A** OFF :thumb: Completely agree with u OP! I think I have to increase my thread exploring speed though ;)
 
Great thread. A real eye opener. Nothing in life is instant. One has to work hard, keep at it till one sees success. Especially be smart enough to recognize oncoming opportunities.
 
I found out that I made the most money when I understood what I was reading. Stopped reading it...Then just went to work the method. That was it.
 
Great post. I think many are guilty of giving up too quickly, or having too much spare time on their hands. A lot of people wanting to learn online just look at some public methods, don't try putting their own spin on it, fail and then give up straight away. Others, make a decent amount of money, but don't try filling their spare time to make even more money and then complain they are bored.
 
Ambitious12 said:
For SEO,you need to first work hard and learn everything,then smartly use your brain for your work.
You will rock.
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Absolutely. A simple spin on an old method makes it a new method and way to make money.


The Nix said:
Real Talk.

Almost anyone can make money online, but only a few actually do. Why? Lack of follow through.

Some people are either too scared to try, or have a thousand excuses piled up.

That... or they quit easily after 1-2 failures. True story.
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Those who stick with it make it. You do not need to be the smartest or the hardest worker. You just need to try and not give up.

rushuna said:


Let's dissect everything you just said.



You work so hard to make money. Don't put in the effort and you make no money. If you don't see the value of creating social accounts for SEO then you really don't know what you are doing. Especially, after Leith's thread about utilizing expired twitters to help you rank easier. Social profiles add diversity to your backlink profile, can get you additional traffic to your site depending on the niche, and so much more.

The next thing you said is "creates no real life values." That's bullshit. If I take you literally and say that it doesn't create any value in real life then you are being an idiot. SEO is one way to get traffic to your site. You game Google's algorithm in order for your site to be number 1. The things that you consider "stupid," are necessary in order for you rank in Google. Consider all the stuff that you need to do as some kind of work ethic. Having a work ethic does provide value for your life. If you can't even set up social profiles, set up yahoo answers, set up quoras, set up a 2.0, set up shorteners and so forth... - then you really don't have a work ethic. You aren't disciplined enough to sit through the tedious work and get your site ranked.

And, that's because you are shortsighted. You don't see the end of the tunnel. That's increased rankings. Page 1 = money



Sure lazy people can understand other lazy people. There really isn't a moral imperative to be lazy. Not at least in this case. And, guess what do you do in response to competition? Pick another keyword to rank for. There's millions if not hundreds of millions of keywords to target. There are endless niches. If a competitor is a problem you move on. There's plenty of room for SEOs to make money. Or, you stand your ground and build stronger links.

You can go back to working mcdonalds while everyone else is collecting dough. How the fuck can people still be so negative after all the gold that was shared in BHW? Blows my mind.

What's ironic is that the OP explains why you won't make any money.
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Wisdom right here from someone who does not post much....

You should share your thoughts more often. They are spot on!


Dilettante said:
Hello,

I agree with you: there are incredible golden nuggets hidden in the forum. I took a look at kimi's threads: they are very interesting, even if I'm not really into SEO. But, I can't find veryon's threads. Could you give me the link to his profile? Thanks
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Veyron was banned. Was helpful on a few threads but nothing groundbreaking like Kimi. Maybe that was a poor example. I would not suggest you search that users profile out, but if you read a lot you will see references to that user and some posts. Nothing specific I learned from Veyrons posts.

Wuconnect said:
Lightning I felt like you just hopped out of the PC and spoke to my soul. "I'm going to hurt you on purpose, so you can do better." like geez lol.

However, everything you mentioned is right. With everything, comes time. One of the biggest draws to making money online is that people show the end result of people chilling at the crib with little clothes on, do a few things and boom..money in the bank. At least that's how it's marketed, not knowing there's much more that goes into it.

Your words took me out of that fantasy..partly. It's not to say it can't happen...but that comes from years of acquiring new skills and failing a good deal. Once again appreciate the words.. bookmarking this along with T0mmy's pinned thread lol.
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I am glad this hit you. Ranking a site takes months now. This is not fast money. It is hard work. But you gain freedom by doing this. That is what is special.

alwaysinvisible said:
LB you did just give me an idea for a project I'm currently working on. Idk why I didn't think of it before. Guess that's why I need to keep rubbing shoulders with the best. ;)
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Great!

I get the same way, I will read a thread by t0mmy on Guest Posting and get an idea of automating Web 2.0s. It just happens but it makes my life easier.

karupoiss said:
I agree. Working a lot is a MUST! I have dabbled around with SEO and IM for over 4 years but every method I was doing I just gave up too fast or didn't realize that a specific thing was not for me. For example, I first discovered SEO and was a noob, followed some guru and failed. Then I went to youtube marketing and made a killing - too easy = I got lazy, did not scale up, had limiting beliefs because I didn't test stuff. That died out and I was back to SEO - the game had gotten harder and it really wasn't for me. I was lured by the idea of passive income but in reality I had no patience to follow through with my plans and wait for rankings.

Now I was put in a do or die situation where I HAD to make money or I will be in a very shit place.. so I started doing social media - I sticked to it after a month of not earning a cent.. and now I am doing nice and scaling up/looking for ways to make even more. The funny thing is that the method I am doing is the oldest trick in the book and I was scared like a lot of other people that the method is saturated to hell (after all, everybody was saying it doesn't work and is saturated). When I decided to give it a go then it blew my mind - there is still so much potential to make money.

So.. what I want to say is: work hard, give a PROPER go at a method, test and see the results yourself and don't listen to the doomsday people, know when to change the method-field (don't get stuck in a fantasy if a method really is not working for you, not suitable for you).
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That is the secret. NOTHING is done. Nothing is saturated. You just need to think and not expect spoon fed auto money making method.

SEO1337 said:
Great post. I think many are guilty of giving up too quickly, or having too much spare time on their hands. A lot of people wanting to learn online just look at some public methods, don't try putting their own spin on it, fail and then give up straight away. Others, make a decent amount of money, but don't try filling their spare time to make even more money and then complain they are bored.
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You are exactly right. You have no money and are bored. You make some decent money and buy junk, and are bored again.

Meanwhile I am working with or without money and when I clear the 250K a year passively I will take a vacation. I don't work to work, I work to reach my goal.
 
Do you reckon it's possible to work on several sites simultaneously, giving them all the attention they meed to make bank? .. Instead of ranking one site in 6 months then moving onto the next, i'm going to try blasting out a site every few days if possible.

I don't know how difficult it will be to manage a huge portfolio of sites, but im gonna give it a go!
 
Thanks for this. I too have failed many of times and know exactly who veyron is. I wasted money and time on his crappie auto blogs. Nothing has stopped me. Ive evolved from those experiences. I just keep trying. Sooner or later something will work, it's a passion of my. In fact it has become a obsession. I had to step back last week after watching traffic stats and the activity of visitors after 12 hours. It's a drug and the rewards are success. It wasn't until recently I was contacted by someone capable of driving 4 million niche targeted people to my site. Not bots, not China but actual real people, if I would have given up I would have never been able have this opportunity. Never give up and never be Africa I'd to fail, it helps you get smarter and wiser.
 
It is possible if you put the effort in to work on multiples sites at the same time. It is not as hard as you would think to work on SEO as a lot of it should be automated.
 
Great share. I usually work on other projects while I'm waiting for things to get done, but I'm going to try doing some of your list at the top.

Great Share again
 
And also checking stats, email. facebook, twitter, Gmail,, Google+, Tumbler, watching YouTube videos, chatting, skyping and then checking your stats, email. facebook, twitter, Gmail,, Google+, Tumbler, watching YouTube videos, chatting, skyping, apping again isn't being hard at work,

That is procrastinating and that is the biggest killer of them all......
 
I love your threads LB. You are literally on fire, or should I say lightning. This game is hard work and patience. Without those two factors you will never make it
 
What about the people that don't give up and still don't make a cent from IM. Anyone with experience willing to point a person like that in the right direction? This is a person who is intelligent, Deans list every semester from a top 10 Public American University (not that that means anything for IM).

The problem with IM is so much BS on here and on the internet and only so much time in the day. Itd be cool to get some guidance from a pro that isnt trying to rip a man off but maybe has 5-10 minutes to help out.
 
How much do I work a day? Pure work on IM is about 4 hours a day.

It is absolutely about time management. I do not skype. I email when I am not working. I build Web 2.0s, do PBN management, edit on page, etc for about 4 hours. BHW is not work, this is me having fun.

When I started I worked more. I do not have 'free days' where I do not do something related to work on SEO. I recently had to give up a JV due to a personal issue (Death in family) and could not put the work in to make something happen.

My process for working is making everything as stream lined as possible. In example this is what I do for Web 2.0s: One day I set up accounts. Next day change themes. Next two days edit and spin content. Day five I post content. Day six make short URLs and set up GSA. Day seven fine tune everything and check email accounts to ensure all Web 2.0s are active.

If you are not making money in SEO or IM after 'X' years you are not learning from failure or doing the wrong thing. I get a lot of PMs asking for help. I ignore some. Others that ask a specific question I can answer I do.

The biggest problem I see is guys give up. Give up on a project. Give up on SEO. People want fast results and I can't give it to them. I see people giving up most often because of this.

I can say this, I do more than most who fail in ten minutes than they did in a day. I also know a lot of people on BHW put me to shame. Me working non stop for a few hours a day is not because I am a hard worker, but because I have not found a way to do everything quicker.

Being effective is more important than working hard. Not giving up is more important than being effective.
 
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