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Why people are still talking about making high PR blog comments links?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by bluejade, Jan 29, 2015.

  1. bluejade

    bluejade Newbie

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    Google PR stopped updating in the year of 2014, but I can still find some posts say high PR blog comments works directly or indirectly, is there something that I missed, I've been looking for the replacement of Google PR, Alexa doesn't seem to be satisfying, could someone light me up on this problem, what do you use or how do you check a websites value efficienctly now? Open to all kinds of advices and thanks for sharing in advance.
     
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    Zwielicht Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Google actually stopped publicly updating PageRank in December of 2013, although this doesn't mean that PageRank is no longer a factor (just one that is no longer publicly updated by Google). The reasons some people may still use it (especially those who sell inbound link packages) is because they understand that PR was a widely known metric, so they know it's easier to sell backlinks as "PR 8" rather than "DA 8, mR 6, PA 62, etcetera".

    As for tools, try using the Moz Toolbar or Majestic. Moz uses the metrics: MozRank, page authority, domain authority, domain mozRank, mozTrust, and domain mozTrust. Majestic uses Trust Flow and Citation Flow. I personally use the Moz Toolbar in conjunction with several other methods to determine the SEO competition for a keyword and it's been working out fine for me.

    Edit: FutureProofSeo provided another useful explanation and alternative for verifying if the PageRank of a domain is still valid:
     
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  3. pxoxrxn

    pxoxrxn Supreme Member

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    I think this is the main reason. The suppliers are just following what's selling and using PR as a sales metric is still selling the links. As soon as people start buying links because of DA, PA and MR then sellers will stop using PR.
     
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    Zwielicht Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    For sellers, yes, that is most likely the main reason. I've actually seen a few sellers make an endeavour to use Trust Flow and Citation Flow in the past, although it doesn't seem to be catching on yet.
     
  5. bluejade

    bluejade Newbie

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    That explains a lot for me, I guess there are many people who feels hard for not using google PR, what ever I'll just move on, thanks again for your help!
     
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    I think OP was confused about the value of blog comments in general.

    Which is valid. Diversification is the only answer I have, unless you guys have more experience with them lately.

    Because high pr sales pitch isn't just for BC, its everywhere.
     
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    madoctopus Supreme Member

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    Blogs are good, but not in the direction that some think. For example if you contribute daily to a reputed blog and add good comments with solid information, you will have chances to be remarked and why not maybe become a contributor there. That's the direction everybody should go, help communities to grow, add relevant content, not to spam them and leave behind copied content.
     
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    Don't buy blog comments from BHW. They tell about low OBL, but you will get comments with OBL is above 1000.
    I was really mad when i got the report, and the sad thing: Every seller do this! There is nobody provides low OBL
     
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    Jobdollarr Supreme Member

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    The more traffic, the more money. Depending on the type of your site to make money
     
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    its just another way of selling links as every one said above , but that doesnt mean blog comments are not effective they are very effective if you know how to use them and never over do them sometime they do backfire .
     
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    Jobdollarr Supreme Member

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    You can use bitly. I strongly suggest not your main money site.

    It still works on the link pyramid
     
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    Because people like to talk bullshit.
     
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    Relevant blog comments are still effective to get relevant traffic & customers.
     
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    Because it is an easy way to make money for them basically.
     
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    Lol, you couldn't be further from the truth. Your false comparison is a huge strawman as well. A PR 8 backlink will be great regardless of the current internal PR. Who cares if it's still PR 8, changed to PR 7-6 or even gained to PR 9 right now? The backlink will be absolutely awesome regardless.

    Sure we can find some middle ground, especially for PR <3 backlinks, because a single gain or drop of good link can make or break that PR, but for the high PR backlinks (PR>5) it's far from obsolete (it still isn't obsolete for lower PR links, but it will take a lot of due dillegence to find out). The fact that you'r putting any value in those external metrics instead of actually analyzing the site structure and the backlinks of a certain domain tells me you have no clue what you're talking about. You sir are suffering from the Dunning-Kruger effect. This is a very obvious case.
     
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  17. AffilaiteWaves

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    Because commenting in high pr blog is not only limited to SEO factor ,some needs their business name to be known by top bloggers.Another reason is high pr blog links are generally clicked by visitors and some of them really spend good time there .
     
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    People are using majesticseo trustflow and citationflow instead of PR, DA and PA. They are looking for a CF/TF ratio of <=1.8 But still always check out backlinks for spam activity.
     
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    Just because Google is not publicly updating pagerank does not mean it is not a good metric. Blog comments on actual pr pages with relevant da/pa still work great.
     
  20. Black_Balls

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    I still use blog comments with low obl to my money sites. of course within a link mix with other link types and it works pretty well.