Why is ZennoPoster better than uBot?

Okay. I'm thinking it would be a smarter investment than, say, xRumer given I have:
1. scrapebox
2. scrapeboard
3. AMR
4. thebestspinner
5. no hands SEO
6. ReddiTroll

Since XR is pretty much aimed at only one function and ZP/UBOT can do basically anything I think it would be a smarter investment, no?

Honestly if your looking for a tool, I'd just jump on the lifetime license of SENuke. It is a great investment and you don't have to code anything and can be working right away.

ZP/UBot you really want to use when you have a specific goal in mind and want to do something specific.
 
I use Senuke more than Xrumer after Panda. But everyone has his own methodologies.
 
I would, but I can't afford ~$2k right now.

I do SEO for my site only at this point, and it is a legit, large, and non-affiliate, non-sales oriented site.
 
Is the Zennoposter demo the same as the paid version?

If so, why is it so buggy? I can't manage to get it to do anything right. I can't even connect steps like they do in the tut videos.

Since there is no money back guarantee with the paid version, I can't justify spending over 300 on a product that barely even works!

I wish someone could answer this... I'd really like to use ZP if it is as good as everyone claims
 
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I did not try the demo, but the full version works like a charm.

Now, as you say...
I can't manage ...

That does not imply the demo is buggy, rather you need to focus your thoughts. :D

But why are you still posting about Zenno? I told you, uBot is a better fitted solution for you, buy it and start making some $$.

I hope you are not trolling... ;)
 
I'm always hearing that it is better, but why? I'm playing around with the demo right now and it won't do basic functions that are in this tut video:
What exactly couldn't you repeat from the video?
UBot is powerful but quirky and I hear Zenno is great but in reality can't do much.
What exactly did you mean under "can't do much".
To make it looks seriously it has to contain some facts and explanations, otherwise it's just words.
Zenno looked nice, but it was no where as easy as you mentioned in that post. It was quite confusing the way things worked. Initially it looked great how you just did what you wanted to do and it showed up on the right but actually getting things done seemed to be much more difficult.
When you got problems, did you write in support of ZennoPoster or did you ask questions in our forum?

Zenno was available, according to nuaru, in Russia for a similar period. It's been available in English for about 3-5 months (I think).
ZennoPoster is celebrating its third anniversary in September (one month).
On the world market ZennoPoster there is since mid-January 2011, ie about 7 months.
During this time, Alexa rank of ZennoPoster exceeded Alexa rank of uBot site (take a look for fun) and at the moment count of new posts in English per day in ZennoPoster forum are approximately 80% of uBot forum posts per day.
I hate to say it, but I think that the biggest reason people on this forum claim Zenno is more powerful than UBot is that nuaru lies about UBot and its capabilities.
SInce there are over 2,000 uBot customers, many of them participate on BHW. But in the thread ZennoPoster VS uBot most users speak well of ZennoPoster and badly about uBot, none of them did not protect your program.
In general, do not think that people are idiots and only one person with words only can change the view of most people about uBot from good to bad, considering that there are more than 2,000 customers uBot.
Opinions has changed just because there was a program that exceeds uBot by the majority of parameters and
most of users understand that perfectly.
See the post just above mine and many others, some of which we've had to ask mods to remove because they were downright libelous.
When did you begin to advertise uBot4 in ZennoPoster advertising thread, we knocked to the moderators and they rubbed your scribbling.
His claims about our sales are, frankly, uninformed, to say the least.
I know from a very involved guy that the owner (and his girlfriend, who also works on UBot) got quite big debts. That's why they hire a programmer and probably calls him an intern just so they can pay him way less (this is unconfirmed, but this used to be one of their moneysavingplan). The other guys involved with UBot are today only fans that, as far as I know, doesn't get paid at all - but are giving them free updates of UBot and let them alpha test all their features.
A quick google search will show you few if any comparisons between the two (because Zenno is so new here) and a lot of praise for UBot.
Yes, it is useful to entere in Google something like "ZennoPoster uBot" and check it out.
Besides a complete re-coding of most of the system, it includes image recognition, code view, and AI to make selecting elements incredibly simple.
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Searching fields that there is even in any simple spam tool, creators uBot loudly called artificial intelligence.
Searching a small picture in a large (which contains just the little picture without any distortion), they are called "image recognition".
And open source script like in iMacros or ZennoPoster they call code view, and include this feature in one of the main features updates LOL.
Here is a price of new features new uBot - loud, nice words. But when they released a new version that they've been advertised for several months and everyone will see the real value of these "magic" features.
No, I don't say that these features are bad or useless, I'm only saying that too many nice inspirational words in their description.
You can't create executable bots :) I'm fairly confident you can do anything in UBot that you can do in Zenno. No one's really shown otherwise that I can tell. (Especially not in UBot 4...)
LOL. All you could say about uBot that your product is better, in comparison with ZennoPoster - it's just something that possibility create exe bots for sale.
I'm not going to create with their hands to competitors "TODO" but ZennoPoster 3 even in comparison with uBot4 has several important advantages.
They can be read here
I hear that Zenno is more powerful a lot of the time. As someone who uses both, what's more powerful about it?
Already only here , many of them expressed their opinions
I made this topic for people to get specific. People say "it's more powerful" but that means NOTHING.
Most answers to this question can be found in the topic ZennoPoster vs uBot. Information that interests you there is on this forum, forums of both programs on the websites of both programs, but you need to spend time to analyze them, for you hardly anyone will do it, and the words "it's more powerful" many people have invested their sense, as I said, it is best to read! topic ZennoPoster vs uBot it the largest concentration of information you need.
Another thing, I was browsing the ZP forum and their site. The English is so bad in some tutorials it is literally impossible to understand.
You asked for a discount on ZennoPoster for help in correcting, I have refused, and the fact that we have already corrected the help and website.
What kind of place to help do you think "impossible to understand", show some examples, please.
Zenno is much more programmer oriented and with the latest update, integration with Visual Studio using PHP/Phalanger or C# simply changes the game. What was tedious is now trivial.
We have never positioned our software as a software for developers, CodeCreator - it's just an additional program that provide additional opportunities for users with coding skills.
Documentation is lacking indeed. Not a problem for a programmer, but for a non-programmer, it may be hard.
Of course, the programmer would be easier to deal with ZennoPoster as well as any other program.
However, the documentation of the text as a small book and there is everything necessary to create a fairly sophisticated bots. If would be something to add there it would be already added.
There are many videos on YouTube, there is not all that there is in help, but most of the highlights there is disclosed.
In the extreme case there is a forum and there are already around 3,500 posts in English.
Therefore, you are unlikely will have any questions about learning ZennoPoster, which doesn't have answers in one of these three sources of information.
The OCR is one of the biggest attractors to ZP but I was reading their tutorial on how to train it and it was practically gibberish :(
There you should to cut example of letters and press the button that you thought about it as "practically gibberish"?
 
My specific problem, as I have said in this thread, is that I can't connect steps like in the tut video. Therefore, I can't save any information to a text file. Pretty big problem for me. I did it just like in the video and tried unsuccessfully for quite a while to connect the two steps.

As I also said, the tutorial for the captcha training, specifically, is barely readable. I honestly can't understand what you're trying to say in it.

Whomever you hired to do your copywriting must not be a native English speaker either, given the egregious errors still on your sales page.

Based on your tone it seems you are getting defensive as if I'm attacking you. That is simply not true. What is true, is that there is such serious grammatical errors that it is hard to understand what you are saying sometimes. If that offends you, deal with it and pay someone who can write tutorials that make some sense.

Take, for instance, this: http://zennolab.com/discussion/showthread.php?1988-CapMonster-Tutorial&p=12384#post12384

To add CAPTCHAs to the project you need to save 50-200 captchas into files. For each image CAPTCHA put near a text file with the same name as a CAPTCHA. This file have to contain a text written in a CAPTCHA. The easiest way to do it with the aid of a small template in ZennoPoster.

Maybe I'm just retarded and my professional writing career is a delusion. Does this make sense to anyone else?

"For each image CAPTCHA put near a text file with the same name as a CAPTCHA."

How can you "for each image CAPTCHA put near a text file with the same name as a CAPTCHA"?

"This file have to contain a text written in a CAPTCHA."

How can you write a text "in a CAPTCHA" that is in a text file?

Please don't get defensive, obviously I am interested in your project or else I wouldn't have made this thread. Your reactions are a bit disconcerting, to say the least.

btw, I just bought uBot and it is nice but I am having some problems where steps will work at first and then suddenly stop working.

edit: Also, I genuinely did not understand what you were attempting to say here, "There you should to cut example of letters and press the button that you thought about it as "practically gibberish"?"

Can anyone clarify that a bit? Cut example of letters? Press the button that I thought about it as "practically gibberish"??

Were you being ironic and trying to make that hard to understand?
 
nuaru, slow down your aggressiveness.
You'll do nothing significant with ZP today, without programming skills.
Describe me how to vote up on youtube comments?

Both tools are shit :D
 
nuaru, slow down your aggressiveness.
You'll do nothing significant with ZP today, without programming skills.
Describe me how to vote up on youtube comments?

Both tools are shit :D
Probably easy with uBot 4 with their image recognition. I was testing it and it works really well except for a few random times. It is weird how it messes up randomly I can't quite figure that part out yet.
 
Btw, there is no CapMonster in Demo, so probably you don't have CapMonster installed on your PC, can't play with it in demo. I think it is useless to learn software w/o running it.
Ok, here you go:
1) Save CAPTCHA image on PC with any name
2) Create .txt file in the same folder with the same name and write there value of CAPTCHA
* To make it automatically you can make small template in ZennoPoster
* These steps are explained in three videos.
 

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My specific problem, as I have said in this thread, is that I can't connect steps like in the tut video. Therefore, I can't save any information to a text file. Pretty big problem for me. I did it just like in the video and tried unsuccessfully for quite a while to connect the two steps.
Double click on the exit of branch and then double click on the enter of another branch.
 
nuaru, slow down your aggressiveness.
You'll do nothing significant with ZP today, without programming skills.
Describe me how to vote up on youtube comments?

Both tools are shit :D
ZennoPoster covers 95-98% of all existing sites at the moment, 2-5% of all sites can be automated partially. If you have coding skills so you can automate on a few percents more sites.
YT, FB are one of the most protected sites in Internet and they are in these 2-5 %, so you can't automate all their features in ZennoPoster. And programming skills don't matter here. In the next version of ZennoPoster will be automated about 99% of all sites.
 
And what does it mean when I open a template I'm working on and it says,

"Connection indicates that the node is not available. Delete this connection?"
 
Also, on the video in the first page it shows you clicking a macro button and a macro menu pops up. Not working for me either.
 
nuaru

How many templates can ZP run at the same time?
IE: can it be running one job updating one domain and another job scrapping at the same time?

(I think templates is the term you use for completed zp projects)
 
I know from a very involved guy that the owner (and his girlfriend, who also works on UBot) got quite big debts. That's why they hire a programmer and probably calls him an intern just so they can pay him way less (this is unconfirmed, but this used to be one of their moneysavingplan). The other guys involved with UBot are today only fans that, as far as I know, doesn't get paid at all - but are giving them free updates of UBot and let them alpha test all their features.

nuaru - even if this were true, it wouldn't be relevant in the thread. Your informant is simply misinformed. That means you are lying. That's why we keep saying that you lie about us. Because you just did it again. These are the sort of posts of yours we keep having mods delete.

Take it from someone who is involved in the company, has been a friend of Seth Turin for twenty years, and can do a little bit of math, that your information is false.

You try so hard to position ZP as nothing more than an alternative to UBot (buying the UBot keywords on Digital Point, spamming members on our forums - both true), but it's a challenge we gladly accept. We assure you that our company is thriving, as are our customers. You would do better not to concern yourself in our personal matters, and instead sell your software on its own merits.

I'm glad to stick to the conversation about UBot and ZP. That's what the readers want.
 
btw, I just bought uBot and it is nice but I am having some problems where steps will work at first and then suddenly stop working.

Probably easy with uBot 4 with their image recognition. I was testing it and it works really well except for a few random times. It is weird how it messes up randomly I can't quite figure that part out yet.

FPC- It can be a little tricky at first, but live support and forum members will be glad to help you through it. Just let them know what issues you're running into.

UBot 4 is still in beta, but we're happy to let people use it as we finish it up.

Jason
 
I love Zennoposter, and from the video's of uBot I have seen, Zennoposter seems to be able to do much more except compiling .exe. Zennoposter also has a very, very powerful proxychecker.

The only thing I don't like with Zennoposter is that the support is not the best. For example, there is a bug in Zennoposter that makes Zennoposter delete all e-mail, so you can't multithread when doing signup.

But instead of releasing a patch and quickly fixing it, they are delaying it. This such be very very urgent! Not being able to multithread is a disaster! And when I create a thread in the forum, the programmers or admins don't respond.

That's not very good customer service...
 
I love Zennoposter, and from the video's of uBot I have seen, Zennoposter seems to be able to do much more except compiling .exe. Zennoposter also has a very, very powerful proxychecker.

The only thing I don't like with Zennoposter is that the support is not the best. For example, there is a bug in Zennoposter that makes Zennoposter delete all e-mail, so you can't multithread when doing signup.

But instead of releasing a patch and quickly fixing it, they are delaying it. This such be very very urgent! Not being able to multithread is a disaster! And when I create a thread in the forum, the programmers or admins don't respond.

That's not very good customer service...
That's what has me concerned. Especially given nuaru's attitude as revealed in this thread. I chatted with someone on the live chat on the ubot website last night and got a lot of help. The project I'm trying to do is somewhat complicated so it is giving me a lot of trouble but the support guy helped me out with a lot of stuff for hours on end.
 
nuaru
How many templates can ZP run at the same time?
IE: can it be running one job updating one domain and another job scrapping at the same time?
(I think templates is the term you use for completed zp projects)
You run 100 threads for example. These threads can execute 100 different templates in parallel or can perform a parallel template in 100 threads. Or 50 threads execute one template and the other 50 threads - 50 different templates at the same time.
In short, as anything in any combination. There are a lot of settings to control the execution of templates.
nuaru - even if this were true, it wouldn't be relevant in the thread. Your informant is simply misinformed. That means you are lying. That's why we keep saying that you lie about us. Because you just did it again. These are the sort of posts of yours we keep having mods delete.
This is not "even if," namely the truth. Information that the team has changed uBot for cheaper has a very high reliability because comes from a former member of the team. And he can not be misguided, because directly participated in these events. This is natural:the more powerful product was released, it is natural that uBot sales fell after that. It is the rule of the market, but of course I would not know that it was so bad that the team had to change to cheaper if I had not talked about it. And the fact that the old team members are gone and replaced by new ones - is also easily verified. Users of the forum uBot certainly noticed it. Even you , luminus, with your small number of posts is proof of this fact.
Take it from someone who is involved in the company, has been a friend of Seth Turin for twenty years, and can do a little bit of math, that your information is false.
Good friends of creator uBot hardly tell us bad information about uBot, but a former member of the team uBot ...:)
You try so hard to position ZP as nothing more than an alternative to UBot (buying the UBot keywords on Digital Point, spamming members on our forums - both true), but it's a challenge we gladly accept. We assure you that our company is thriving, as are our customers.
uBot - a program which is used by our potential customers as soon as they learn about ZennoPoster most of them sooner or later comes to us. Our partners know this and so far as I know, they wrote in a personal some of your customers you have in the forum and offered ZennoPoster.
Also offered ZennoPoster for several your most active members of the forum, so, by the way, we met with a former member of your team and with a few more great people.
Moreover, in uBot forum constantly removed the majority of posts that contain the word ZennoPoster perhaps you have something to fear.
We have no such censorship, we have nothing to fear
You would do better not to concern yourself in our personal matters, and instead sell your software on its own merits.
Firstly in any of our advertisements or our official title topics there is no mention of uBot therefore do not need to fantasize.
Secondly, I would not communicate with you at all, but a person on your team, almost immediately after ZennoPoster release on the world market in our paid advertising thread on WF began to slander our program. Then, after he was disclosed, he made away and removed their posts.
I know from a very involved guy that the owner of Zennoposter is in fact, a flaming homosexual who is up to his neck in student loans from when he went to vocational school to become a nurse midwife. Okay, this is unconfirmed, but this used to be one of his crazy russian schemes) The other guy that is involved doesn't get paid at all either, he just gets free unlimited acess to the forum and free updates for 6 months for the tool.
As I said, in forums such as this there are not so many idiots, so users understand what's the truth and what's not.
The only thing I don't like with Zennoposter is that the support is not the best. For example, there is a bug in Zennoposter that makes Zennoposter delete all e-mail, so you can't multithread
This is not a bug, this is a feature of the mail processing, which has existed for 3 years. And the letters are not removed but simply moved to a local storage.
And this feature was convenient for a long time, and latterly I we got some requests related to it, before that nobody complained.
The new version (and maybe in the next update I'll remake it, and release it for testing, if works fine we'll add it).
 
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