What the hell is this COVID about?

If everyone over the age of 70 got corona virus it would result in 2.5 million deaths.

If it spreads unchecked hospitals will become saturated, hospitals will run out of beds, and even makeshift hospitals would run out of doctors and nurses. Using the National Guard and Military Reserves wouldn't help, because most of the Dr's and Nurses in those are Dr's and Nurses in the civilian world as well.

If there are no hospital beds and all the doctors and nurses are already attending to other people, how will they be able to deal with injuries, other illnesses, heart attacks etc.

hmm i just heard my local news here claim France implement lock down till dec

yes, they thought they would be safe without fear, but they were wrong, virus easily spreads through the respiratory tract, not wearing a mask is wrong.

Luca0101 said:

yes, they thought they would be safe without fear, but they were wrong, virus easily spreads through the respiratory tract, not wearing a mask is wrong.

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wear mask yes first defence but social distance is hard .
like my country here, public transport the train lots of people even do call wear mask ,but social distance is not there.
even u take taxi, private hire also can't be sure that driver is it safe despite he wear mask.

They have eyes but do not see.

You can clearly see people dying near you and you are still asking if it's real.

So what do you want us to do?

Stay safe, wash you hands and avoid public places. If you don't feel that that's an option, that's ok too.

Your feelings won't stop a virus. But you have every right to believe that they do.

markantos said:

They have eyes but do not see.

You can clearly see people dying near you and you are still asking if it's real.

So what do you want us to do?

Stay safe, wash you hands and avoid public places. If you don't feel that that's an option, that's ok too.

Your feelings won't stop a virus. But you have every right to believe that they do.

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joseph15 said:

Consider that this is for *all* covid deaths, including those that were obese, diabetic, with heart disease, etc. If you wanna talk about the longterm effects or protecting old people 70+ years old --- fine. But don't make it about death for the general population.

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I gotcha. In my opinion though, I think that's still a lot of people when you factor in the amount of cases. Or maybe I'm bias here because I'm close with a lot of people who would be very vulnerable. Anyways, not sure why the stats were made like this... it looks off to me -- or maybe my math is just bad lol

9,120,751 cases in the US times 1 in 18 = 506,708? Yet there's only 233,130 deaths in the states? Or I guess I'd need to know how many people are in the age group first. Frig that's annoying!

Anyways, when looking at the actual numbers, they might not look like a lot in comparison to the 150,000+ coming from elderly people. But there's still thousands upon thousands of children who lost their mother or father. There's still hundreds and hundreds of parents who lost their young teenager, child, or baby. Although elderly or not, I don't see how any of this matters when it comes to lockdowns / masks. They're all human lives. I can understand the mental health claims and other issues related to lockdowns. But it's annoyingly stupid when people start going on about conspiracy theories and governments trying to control them, etc.

Edit: September 11th was tragic for the entire world. It took under 3000 lives, and also gave life-long health problems for many rescue workers. I don't seem to remember anybody referring to it as an insignificant amount. But now every few days or so, we're losing the same amount of lives.

kvvni said:

In my country, gyms and recreation areas are closing. Restaurants are closing. With the slightest protest, fines from several to several dozen euros.
There is huge propaganda on TV about what a bad disease it is. Doctors do not take. They don't heal. At all. Unless privately - you pay - they invites you, even without a mask.

Recent new restrictions = significant increase in infections.


Restaurants closed. A lot of people lose their jobs and their lives.

On Facebook? Same "haha" and "wrr" reactions. Nobody agrees with the government's decisions. Everyone knows there is a virus, a maximum of a few % negate it. But almost 100% doesn't agree with actual restrictions.

In our country:
- "it's ok at the moment, but it will be bad"
- "we have to do more tests"
- "it's bad"

MORE TESTS = MORE SICKNESS.


And now my questions (perhaps rhetorical) to you: Why only politicians think about a complete lockdown? Why only politicians suggest restrictions?
I'm not denying the virus. I am not a flat eater. I deny the idiotic behavior of governments almost everywhere in the world. This is fucked up.




And such a little bonus from me:
Playing on feelings is weak. You will write "I wish this would not happen to your family or to you". OKAY!
But there are many other, more dangerous diseases that can also affect us. This is not a reason to shut down hospitals, make a huge mess of old people watching TV, and shut down almost every branch of the economy.
Fortunately, people are starting to protest fiercely.

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I guess your from France like me.

Restrictions are increasing in many countries. And sad, but the situation is not happy

samiejg said:

I gotcha. In my opinion though, I think that's still a lot of people when you factor in the amount of cases. Or maybe I'm bias here because I'm close with a lot of people who would be very vulnerable. Anyways, not sure why the stats were made like this... it looks off to me -- or maybe my math is just bad lol

9,120,751 cases in the US times 1 in 18 = 506,708? Yet there's only 233,130 deaths in the states? Or I guess I'd need to know how many people are in the age group first. Frig that's annoying!

Anyways, when looking at the actual numbers, they might not look like a lot in comparison to the 150,000+ coming from elderly people. But there's still thousands upon thousands of children who lost their mother or father. There's still hundreds and hundreds of parents who lost their young teenager, child, or baby. Although elderly or not, I don't see how any of this matters when it comes to lockdowns / masks. They're all human lives. I can understand the mental health claims and other issues related to lockdowns. But it's annoyingly stupid when people start going on about conspiracy theories and governments trying to control them, etc.

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Why are we acting like people don't die (needlessly) already though? Every year dozens of millions of people die from diabetes, obesity, heart disease, lung cancer, driving, influenza combined --- yet I don't see any media outrage or government intervention stopping me from eating 20 doughnuts a day, smoking, or driving. You might argue that "it's different" but to me it's objectively not. There are risks associated with all of those things, and sometimes you risk others' lives as well (as is the case with driving, smoking, and going out with the regular flu). We have historically had the right to do things that might result in death for a small % of people but now we don't.

I don't know whether or not this is about the government controlling us, China destroying the economy, Trump losing the election, etc. but I think it is silly to say that those things at the very least aren't plausible. Nothing is off the table when something unprecedented happens.

Numbers don't lie though and the numbers say young/healthy people are mostly fine. Let the young people go out, advise young people who live with old/compromised people to take extra precaution, and set up government-funded free delivery services for all people who are at a high risk.

There are countries who didn't lockdown at all (Sweden) and countries that locked down HARD (Germany, other europe) and guess what? 9 months in, we're all fu*ked the same. But at least Sweden didn't suffer the other effects like economic crisis, suicides, etc. It's impossible for humans to "lock down" and kill the virus in 2 weeks like everyone dreams of doing, because we are collectively too dumb to do it. So, the next best thing is to live with it and protect the weak.

bartosimpsonio said:

THE VIRUS ISN'T REAL

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We don't need the Q conspiracy BULLSHIT in BHW.

redarrow said:

The news has said several times no underlining health problems but died from covid.

Uk here we get interviews from tv health sectury and maps there the ones announce death with or without underlining health problems each case.

If you can look them test up your see there plenty of covid deaths without underlineing illness

Is that news real?????

Your asking for proof I am telling you our top docs says none underlying covid deaths exist???????

It also been said that mixed raced are dying at a unusual rate with covid with and without underlying health.

Can you explain this please...

Info from priminster and WHO on British news tv.

Only replying as that only proof many got tv with priminster and WHO DAILY .

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According to the statistic I posted from the CDC, 94% of people had other causes of death also. If you know of a similar statistic for the UK it would be interesting to see if the same is true there or not.

Corruption and idiocy

actually, I feel is More on economy point of views. Partly the virus is easily spread from people to people.
Imaging one dude go work and spread to all people inside a corporation.
That corporation can close down due to lack of workers all send to hospital for treatment etc stuffs.

bartosimpsonio said:

TAKE YOUR STUPID CONSPIRACY CRAP SOMEWHERE ELSE

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bartosimpsonio said:

The virus is real. The danger is real. I've seen dear ones dead from this virus.

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bartosimpsonio said:

Stop denying it. It's real.

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bartosimpsonio said:

It's crazy to think with all the information we have people like you are still out there denying this virus.

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bartosimpsonio said:

Everyone should stop the conspiracy bullshit already. It's enough.

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bartosimpsonio said:

It's DENYING that the virus is what it is .

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bartosimpsonio said:

We don't need the Q conspiracy BULLSHIT in BHW.

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bartosimpsonio said:

This conspiracy shit will ruin BHW like it's ruined every other online forum.

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bartosimpsonio said:

Stop fucking denying the virus and pushing stupid conspiracy shit.

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DOES THE VIRUS REALLY EXIST? I'm still not sure.

2020 is hellish

The vast majority of politicians are demagogues. A demagogue is defined as “a political leader who seeks support by appealing to the desires and prejudices of ordinary people rather than by using rational argument.”

Now, the emotion politicians like to appeal to the most is fear. By intentionally spreading messages that make the general public feel like it’ll be harmed or utterly destroyed if they aren’t elected in positions of power or don’t implement certain policies, politicians are able to persuade the masses to support them.

You might be wondering: How can that be possible? Don’t people base their decisions on conscious, rational thinking?

Well, they do, much of the time, but rarely when they are gripped by fear of a threat, whether real or imagined. Here’s why, according to cognitive psychologist and economist Robin M. Hogarth:

“By creating a state of emergency in our psyche, fear distracts us from the relevant facts on which we should base our conscious decisions. A fight-or-flight instinct kicks in instantaneously when we’re afraid, leaving no time for us to question its merits. The resulting knee-jerk reaction often leads to a short-term solution that only tackles the symptoms. This act-first-think-later approach, however, doesn’t address underlying causes.”

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[...] the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country. - Hermann Göring

Why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. - Hermann Göring

Bagsellers said:

2020 is hellish

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It sure is.

But we'll get through. Better times are coming soon.

bartosimpsonio said:

HAVE YOU NOTICED HOW THERE'S ALWAYS A FIREFIGHTER AT THE SCENE WHERE THERE'S FIRE???

FIREFIGHTERS SPREAD FIRE

THE SAME WITH COVID

THERE'S ALWAYS A DOCTOR AT PLACES PACKED WITH VIRUS

I THINK DOCTORS SPREAD THE VIRUS ON PURPOSE

THIS THREAD IS SO FUCKING REVEALING

THE VIRUS IS SPREADING BECAUSE PLACES ARE CLOSING! RESTRICTIONS = INCREASE IN VIRUS!!! YOU'RE SO FUCKING BRILLIANT.

TAKE YOUR STUPID CONSPIRACY CRAP SOMEWHERE ELSE

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True. I believe Covid for a purpose

kewsey said:

True. I believe Covid for a purpose

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Yeah the purpose is to fuck us.