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What black hat methods can we all agree upon doesn't work?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Nattsurfaren, Mar 25, 2015.

  1. Nattsurfaren

    Nattsurfaren Regular Member

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    What I'm missing in this forum is information that is precise. Most of what I always find is firstly people that have an opinion of what works and what doesn't work and people that know works/doesn't work. How do you really distinguish these two groups?

    In reality I think this is really hard to do and looks more like a gray scale than just black and white. Jack maybe tried something once and thinks he know while Bill tried it 20 times and really knows about it. Now to make things even more complicated we also have a group of people that wants to promote stuff. These people always mention things that works and use various methods to reel in the fish to what they are trying to sell. So I think to really know we need to ask things that truly doesn't work. I could be wrong about everything and I maybe need to rethink it. Maybe things are even more complicated. Don't know.

    So my question to you what methods truly doesn't work and how many times have you tried it.
     
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    Spamming 8674638 links from trashy sites is a (seemingly) obvious one to avoid.
     
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    jack maybe tried once and had great success, while bill tried it 20 times half assed and never had any success.

    the only way to truly know that something works is to try for yourself with your own twists etc. because what works for someone might not work for you.

    dont think there will ever be a definitive
     
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    Only about 5% people really work on something and know the real result of the method.

    Rest 95% give their opinions based on what they hear (propaganda). The best option is to test and figure out the results yourself.
     
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  7. Nattsurfaren

    Nattsurfaren Regular Member

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    If you're serious then let us know how many times you tried it and how. I know people tried it and never got their money because ad.fly refuses to pay it out.
     
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    These guys both deserve a fine cigar!
     
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    There is always a right way and a wrong way.If you do a method the right way ,it will work.If you do it the wrong way ,it won`t work.Sometimes a little twist can make an oldschool saturated method super successful.
     
  11. Nattsurfaren

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    While Bill tried it 20 times wouldn't it be more likely that he tried it with various techniques. I think we should also ask how long time he tried it. I could be that the method worked 2010 but stopped working 2011?
    The truth is that the more people say it doesn't work the more likely it is that others will fail and the level of success is just to hard to even bother with.
    Still I think asking what doesn't work gets you way longer jump than asking what works. I mean if you think of it, people doesn't want to share their exact methods, why would they? But in the spirit of helping each other and themselves of sharing their fails would help in saving a lot of wasted time.
     
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    I know "Telekinesis SEO" works wonder for some people here :D
     
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    That's not blackhat - that's blackmagichat

    I just checked and blackmagichat.com is available

    Someone should buy it and flip it to Pewep
     
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    Nattsurfaren Regular Member

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    Yes of course they should have a cigar for that but I don't think it really helps anyone. Of course you would try your own twists and experiment yourself. It is really hard not to. But does that really help yourself when you fail? Wouldn't you like to know the trend of that method before you start. You can't rely on success but you can rely more on fails. It gives you a platform and guidance to stand on.
     
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    Does profile link still work?
     
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    How many times have you tried it and what is your story.
     
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    So let us know what failed for you. Just something. Maybe people have similar experience?
     
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    I share freely on this site so if you looked up my posts you would see what does and does not work for me in many areas.
     
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  19. Trepanated

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    You're missing the point - you'll only know if you can make something work by trying it yourself.

    Every method, niche, business model, sector, industry, idea, product, service - they are all littered with people who failed at them.

    But every one of them also has a few people who make spectacular amounts of money with them

    If you take advice from the failures of this world, you will get nowhere.
     
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  20. Nattsurfaren

    Nattsurfaren Regular Member

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    I tried this phrase: site:blackhatworld.com BassTrackerBoats "doesn't work"

    I could find this:
    You mention: sometimes it doesn't work to get penalty lifted on slapped sites.
    So always getting your penalty lifted on slapped sites doesn't work.

    Negative seo doesn't work on sites that are authority sites.
    This is the only thing I could find that you are pretty sure about.


    That won't fly with most people that buy articles as they will be able to tell it was spun.
    So always getting a sale from spinned articles doesn't work.

    Don't expect results to be overnight.
    So expecting results over night doesn't work.

    I don't want come out as a smart ass :eek:p::). Sorry if I did. I just wanted you to see that we really lack having people sharing their fails or thing they are certain of that it doesn't work.


    The only thing I could find use full as method that doesn't work was this.
    Negative seo doesn't work on sites that are authority sites

    Otherwise most thing you do is helping people with suggestion, promoting your SEO services and you link pushing service, reminding people with forum rules and helping people black hat coupons.

    Could you point out something more that doesn't work that I might have missed or share any experience with your fails?
     
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