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Verified Success: No Hands Seo - MY case study

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by cody41, Jul 17, 2013.

  1. cody41

    cody41 Power Member

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    Ok, so it's no secret I support many of the developers here on BHW as well as other sites. You know why? Because it makes my job easier when I'm using the tools and I can provide feedback so that they in turn can make it a better tool. I especially appreciate those devs who stick around longer than most. So with that being said, I give you my overview of a specific site of which I've done 0 backlinking, created 15 pages or so of unique content and has small global comp, but extremely HIGH local comp.

    I've got a ton of tools in my aresenal. I literally have a bunch of servers in rack space in a colo in Houston where I do my work from (if not also from my home machines for quick testing as well). I like some tools, love others, and some I can just do without because they're not worth the payment some owner made to a third party developer in Indonesia..but I digress..

    (side note, i've been meaning to update my seotooluniverse.com site for awhile now..hmm may have to get back into that with new tool entries. If anyone knows of a tool that they want listed, for free, let me know)

    Ok, so onto the case study. It's pretty short to be honest. Kicked off a new wordpress design, focusing on a local market which has a ton of comp. I've been in this space for awhile where I create local sites, contact people listed on pages 2-5 of Google and then sell said site. Bingo Boingo Profit. Can't beat that..seriously.

    But this time, I decided to branch off a bit from my web 2.0's, contextual backlink sites within the industry, and just try using NoHandsSeo of which I used to use all the time when it was released. Got great results with it back then, but with any new shiny object, I moved on to the lastest and greatest and got lost in my other toys/tools.

    So I did a ton of onpage optimization, made sure I wrote the text for LSI considerations and not just straight up keyword based text, and then setup a profile in Nohands to let run off one of my home laptops, for about a month. Stopping the program here and there for updates. That's it. Nothing else.

    Just some results below..

    My overall keywords listed with the site with which i'm QUITE happy with:
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    One of my harder to rank words starting to get positive movement..
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    So as you can see, it's actually ranking fairly well for being about a month old website. I'm going to wait another 15 days before I start sending invites to purchase to those "less fortunate" webmaster on pages 2-5. But the goal here is to educate those who feel like one tool is better than the other. FORGET reading about shit. Actually test it for yourself..and test it extensively. I did a parallel test with another industry website and found very similar results, so that I didn't delude myself into thinking this was a winner just on the basis of one site.

    Now, here's the caveat to all of this: no one tool is right for every job. If I'm trying to rank for "coke" and my name isn't Coke as a company, I'm fucked. Just using this one tool aint gonna do jack shit for me. But depending on your keyword analysis BEFORE you use any tool, you'll get a feel for what will work or not work before you hit the go button. What is also important with automation tools is being able to setup specifics as to posting to low OBL pages, high PR domains, etc. You need to be smart with these tools and not just "click it and forget it, oh shit why am I not ranking???". Put some effort into any tool you use, and you should reap the benefits.
     
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  2. gullsinn

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    Cool and you did all this with No hand SEO? right!
     
  3. jimbobo2779

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    Thanks a lot for your well presented case study Cody.

    As daft as it sounds I had never thought about using NHSEO to pump a website up the rankings and then to sell it to the competitors of that keyword, that alone could be its own little method thread.
     
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    Great post - I am wondering what tool do you use to check your keywords rankings daily?

    It looks like a great tool I want! Even if it's not free :)
     
  5. Execute

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    Great case study, it shows that blog comments do still work. Although what settings have you enabled? Could it be a lot of natural rankings with only a few good comment links?
     
  6. cody41

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    Correct, all with NohandsSeo. Like I said, it was a brand new site built with a purpose, just this time I deviated from my normal seo attack and just threw Nohands at it.

    I'm using Carty's seo rank checker pro tool. It's a good little rank checker, not as feature function heavy as the big boys, but it's reliable.
     
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    From: http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-special-offers-forum/795158-brand-new-search-engine-optimization-rank-tracker-pro-keep-track-your-search-engine-rankings-easily-50-off-today.html
    right?

    I actually don't have a rank checking tool (except google webmaster lol) would you recommend me to buy this one?
     
  8. cody41

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    Yea, it's not that bad of a tool. I like how it displays out the various rankings. Very clean, uncluttered. I even suggested a feature and he added it into the program, so he's very open to ideas as well.
     
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    nice study,gonna try no hands seo
     
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    Great post and mini-case study. When you say "If I'm trying to rank for "coke" and my name isn't Coke as a company, I'm fucked", did you meant that our comments must be relevant, or that we must try to have an EMD, or partial match domain?
     
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    Good question. And the answer lies in just how saturated your niche is and who the big boys are that are playing in that niche. Here's a rule of thumb: if you're site is about cat collars, and you gain 5 backlinks from various cat websites with established authority or good pagejuice flowing from them, you'll be ahead of the game when it comes to gaining any seo significance back to your site. That action right there will trump the thousands of shit links you'll get with typical profile,guestbook,etc links.

    But, if you're in a niche where there isn't much going on and you're getting a bunch of comments back with varied anchor terms, including the ones you want to rank for, I think you may be surprised. Having any sort of web presence beats not having a web presence, if that makes sense. Now, you need to be smart about it too. I tend to leave comments on lesser OBL pages, and I try, emphasis on try, to target only contextually relevant websites to my niches. Tough to do, but need to make the effort.

    Always shoot for some sort of keyword in the domain, unless you're going authority and want to make a Woot, Amazon, anandtech, etc. EMD have lost a lot of significance, but at the same time: they're still a factor.

    So the long and short of it, try to get contextually relevant comments back to your site, from those web properties that have something to do with your niche. If it's not related to your niche, no worries, try to shoot for those sites that have low obl and have at least better than PR1.
     
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  12. jimbobo2779

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    Hey cody I forgot to ask. What platforms are you using in NHSEO? Did you leave it default to use all 50+ or did you disable some?

    To be honest I have been running without a lot of the guestbooks enabled as it makes it harder to track the links later on (not that I do a lot of link checking) but I wasn't sure how these links that move around on a site are treated by SEs.

    If you've been using all platforms I may have to enable the ones I haven't been using to see if it helps anything.
     
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    Jim,
    I'm using all platforms. Like I said previously, it's not the type of platform, it's the OBL count amongst other things. I probably should throw these links into a link tracker and see what pops up for longevity..good suggestion
     
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    Did you just setup a quick profile and limit PR and OBL of the links?

    Would be interesting to hear how you set it up
     
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    Using the Add Profile Wizard as opposed to just quick adding a profile just provides all options for your settings in one easy to use interface. The main difference with the Add Profile Wizard is that you can set all of your profile specific settings like your outbound link limit, PR limit etc when you are adding the profile rather than adding your profile and then editing after the fact in the Profile Handler.

    I don't know about Cody but when I promote a money site I will use custom comments which I consider to be more easily added via the Add Profile Wizard. Using the custom comments allows you to add more relevancy to every link created which should result in better SERP gains.
     
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    How many customer comments do you usually use?
     
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    i would like to know too
     
  18. jimbobo2779

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    As many as I can be bothered to write. I will usually aim to put in around 10 custom comments and spin them well so each one is capable of at least 100 different variations, this actually doesn't take as long as you would think.

    If I am pointing a profile direct to money site I would try to write a few more and have the above mentioned variation but I relax these requirements if I am only pointing at linking pages/Tier 1 I would probably write some relevant comments and just use the auto-spin feature in the Text Rewriter to get a quick and easy spinning text from it. In the case of linking to Tier 1 I am more concerned with getting a bit more relevancy than outright fully readable comments. With Spinner Chief this can be done for free so there really isn't any reason not to be using Spinner Chief for quick spinning of text.

    I recorded a video about how to setup a profile earlier and am just mashing the different takes into 1 video before uploading and will then be doing a guide (video and written) on how to use the Text Rewriter to its fullest as I know some people have some troubles writing spinning text and aren't even aware of the built in tools to help write some really effective comments quickly. Hopefully these will all be done by sometime on Friday.

    If you have any further questions Id be happy to answer them, especially about the comments because I know it is a tough task for some and when you have NHSEO setup properly it needn't take more than about 10 minutes per profile to get lots more relevancy in (almost) every link.
     
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    I started testing out NHS myself as well, so far I'm liking what I'm seeing/getting!
     
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    i post to everything right now and i am getting around 4-5k verified daily ,without any filter.as long the site keep staying on first page i think those links still help alot