Thoughts on a bulletproof web-based Twitter bot?

Hi everyone,

I read through wizard04's twitter journey and bought FollowLiker to start on a similar path myself, only to have my accounts essentially insta-locked after very little activity.

I'm a professional software engineer and have been looking for a new project, so I'd like to ask: Would anyone be interested in a new web-based Twitter bot? One that needs no hosting, can scale seamlessly, and doesn't have issues with account locking? I'm fairly confident I can make something Twitter can't distinguish from an ordinary user, but would like to see if there is any interest first.

Thanks

I would be interested, however i doubt you can provide anything like you described.

I have a free Twitter bot I'm about to release so I know a bit about this sort of thing. SaaS bot would be cool but would you be responsible for proxy management? Also in my experience rendering bots (which I think is what you meant when you said Twitter won't distinguish) are not economically feasible.

Interesting idea let me know what you do either way. There was a post similar to this a few months ago worth a search for

Well...stop wasting time, and start working on this..

phaidrus said:

I can make something Twitter can't distinguish from an ordinary user

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That's what everyone promises, yet webpages that earn thousands of dollars every month get blocked, so what black magic are you going to use?
It doesn't matter if you act like a normal user, you will get blocked either way. If I remember correctly, even back in the day when I started my Twitter account, I got blocked for following only ~30 users in a short period of time. I didn't even have intention to spam or anything.

You should try, I think you can even make a buck out of it, but it's highly unlikely that your bot will be better than already existing solutions.

I would be interested, however i doubt you can provide anything like you described.

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I already have a few ideas for how to do it in mind, it is definitely possible. I've been a programmer for 10 years, and a professional software engineer for 4. I've coded many large multi-platform applications in a variety of languages, so this is what I do Fooling twitter isn't rocket science, although it seems like no one has done it right yet.

SaaS bot would be cool but would you be responsible for proxy management?

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No, but it's something I'll keep in mind as a future feature. The bot will operate with a set of user-supplied proxies initially.

Well...stop wasting time, and start working on this..

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This is a non-trivial undertaking, but if enough people show interest, I'll do so I'm glad to hear it isn't a terrible idea.

You should try, I think you can even make a buck out of it, but it's highly unlikely that your bot will be better than already existing solutions.

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We shall see. Most implementations (from what I've seen so far, and that isn't much admittedly) have been fairly naive. I won't go into details though, this product will be paid and closed-source if I do make it.

In general, I am very good at what I do. I won't go into details, if you think it's impossible then I suggest you hedge your bets

I'll hold most of my questions for now, as I'd like to hear a bit more feedback from the community first, but a short & obvious one: Are there any features people would like to have that are missing from existing bots?

Fooling twitter isn't rocket science, although it seems like no one has done it right yet.

phaidrus said:

I already have a few ideas for how to do it in mind, it is definitely possible. I've been a programmer for 10 years, and a professional software engineer for 4. I've coded many large multi-platform applications in a variety of languages, so this is what I do Fooling twitter isn't rocket science, although it seems like no one has done it right yet.


No, but it's something I'll keep in mind as a future feature. The bot will operate with a set of user-supplied proxies initially.


This is a non-trivial undertaking, but if enough people show interest, I'll do so I'm glad to hear it isn't a terrible idea.


We shall see. Most implementations (from what I've seen so far, and that isn't much admittedly) have been fairly naive. I won't go into details though, this product will be paid and closed-source if I do make it.

In general, I am very good at what I do. I won't go into details, if you think it's impossible then I suggest you hedge your bets

I'll hold most of my questions for now, as I'd like to hear a bit more feedback from the community first, but a short & obvious one: Are there any features people would like to have that are missing from existing bots?

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Twitter isn't stupid. It's incredibly easy to detect html scraping bots. They don't get banned because they're bots, they get banned because of their actions. If a person tweets spam and follow churns they'll get banned as quickly as a bot doing exactly the same. Twitter doesn't want to ban bot accounts, have you seen what happens to their stock prices when the share holders get even the slightest bit of slow growth? People are jumpy as hell on big tech stocks. Imagine if they banned all bots and reduced they're user base by 10%....

I like the idea of a cloud based service for the easy of use but you'll have to make it very efficient as you'll be handling all the processing instead of the users PC and if you aim to make it undetectable you'll need full Dom rendering which will mean thousands of instances of browsers running. Even if they're headerless, it won't be feasible. I would concentrate on making it easy to use and aim it at novice users who don't know what a vps is

Twitter isn't stupid. It's incredibly easy to detect html scraping bots. They don't get banned because they're bots, they get banned because of their actions. If a person tweets spam and follow churns they'll get banned as quickly as a bot doing exactly the same. Twitter doesn't want to ban bot accounts, have you seen what happens to their stock prices when the share holders get even the slightest bit of slow growth? People are jumpy as hell on big tech stocks. Imagine if they banned all bots and reduced they're user base by 10%....

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Like I tried to imply before, let's not talk technical details. That's my field, and I won't say more on this point. For the purposes of this discussion you can assume it is possible.

Yes, there is a 1k daily follow hard limit from what I understand, but by automating account creation (both email and twitter) alongside everything else, it shouldn't be much of an issue.

I like the idea of a cloud based service for the easy of use but you'll have to make it very efficient as you'll be handling all the processing instead of the users PC and if you aim to make it undetectable you'll need full Dom rendering which will mean thousands of instances of browsers running. Even if they're headerless, it won't be feasible. I would concentrate on making it easy to use and aim it at novice users who don't know what a vps is

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Ditto @ technical details. It will be easy to use, but the target market is mainly that of FollowLiker, which I just burned $116 on only to be left with a very shitty and useless interface running through RDP on a windows VPS. I can do better.

phaidrus said:

In general, I am very good at what I do. I won't go into details, if you think it's impossible then I suggest you hedge your bets

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You aren't the only experienced programmer here. Disregarding many kids and fruitcakes, there are plenty of smart people on these types of forums.
I wish you the best of luck.

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Like I tried to imply before, let's not talk technical details. That's my field, and I won't say more on this point. For the purposes of this discussion you can assume it is possible.

Yes, there is a 1k daily follow hard limit from what I understand, but by automating account creation (both email and twitter) alongside everything else, it shouldn't be much of an issue.


Ditto @ technical details. It will be easy to use, but the target market is mainly that of FollowLiker, which I just burned $116 on only to be left with a very shitty and useless interface running through RDP on a windows VPS. I can do better.

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There are quite a few different limits and flags that they use to determine if an account needs a lock or a ban. I've noticed these over the last couple of years but you sound more than capable of figuring these out. Good luck with your product

Please make it

I too bought FL and didn't like it so I decided to develop my own web-based solution. It works and scales so far, no bans so far.

Will I offer it as a product? Will I fuck!

You're right, it's not a trivial undertaking but, if you've got the right sort of tools then writing the code is fairly trivial ... scaling will probably be your biggest issue.

But you've got a few big decisions to make before you get anywhere near coding and tools.

Good luck!

Love these guys who know they are capable of succeeding before even trying lol

I hope you don't advertise your Bot as bullet proof OP as you will have a lot of angry people claiming refunds when their accounts are banned.

Not saying not to attempt it but don't get too cocky before you have even tried.

Asif WILSON Khan said:

Not saying not to attempt it but don't get too cocky before you have even tried.

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definitely this ...

One year has passed, where is the bot?

I'm def interested.