This scam shouldn't be presented as it is

wwa2b · Jul 30, 2017

I don't know where to post this, so I'll just post it here.
I'm looking to buy traffic and I see this huge thread about this service in India.
https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/flood-your-site-with-targeted-traffic-free-reviews.659447/
The offer is for "laser-targeted traffic" that may lead to sales, etc. The ad copy goes on forever.
Tons of newbies have bought this package hoping that they would get sales.
Yet when you ask the posters directly about that, they answer that the "traffic is cold and will not convert".
So I understand that some people might have a use for "cold traffic", but that's not what is advertised in the copy, and a lot of newbies have lost money on this.
I'm disappointed that BHW lets these guys misrepresent their product as they have.
For me, that was the difference between BHW and Warrior Forum.

MisterF · Jul 30, 2017

If you're a buyer you can escalate a complaint and open a Shitlist.
However if you're not a buyer, you're really just speculating. If you are concerned then speak to a Moderator in private, but posting in public isn't the way to go really, in my opinion.

agedaccs · Jul 30, 2017

Always check the reviews before buying anything

wwa2b · Jul 30, 2017

xbryan said:
Always check the reviews before buying anything

But precisely there are none, in 190 pages of posts.
Plus since users hope to get free services from these guys I wouldn't trust any of their reviews (and BS/incentivized reviews is a widespread issue on BHW IMO)

wwa2b · Jul 30, 2017

MisterF said:
If you're a buyer you can escalate a complaint and open a Shitlist.
However if you're not a buyer, you're really just speculating. If you are concerned then speak to a Moderator in private, but posting in public isn't the way to go really, in my opinion.

Oh really, 'cause it's right there in plain sight.
They have clearly replied to some users that this wasn't traffic for converting. Yet their ad copy says the opposite. So they have this ad saying "buy this car" and when you ask them about it before buying they say "oh no it's a bicycle".
WTF is that??

MisterF · Jul 30, 2017

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/avoiding-scams-staying-safe-on-black-hat-world.884947/

4. Once You Have Evidence, Send In A Proper Report
If someone attempted to scam you, then sending a report to a moderator that just says "member is a scammer" isn't going to be enough. You need to include links to any evidence you've collected, links to screenshots, and http://www.blackhatworld.com/help/terms. If the member really did attempt to scam you, then this shouldn't be a problem.

If you're still not sure about how to structure a report, then I've created a report format below based on the one I used as a moderator in training.
Situation: Describe the situation here.

Rule(s) Broken: Reference the rule broken here. If the rule isn't in the TOS, try to find an instance where another moderators mentions the rule.

Additional Info: Provide links to any evidence here (e.g., multiple accounts).

SEO1337 · Jul 30, 2017

Never compare BHW with WF again.

AceWallGromit · Jul 30, 2017

That's how IM works: sell stuff to noobs with promises they can't understand, and then, when they understand they bought junk, sell them new stuff with new promises.

There's no honour among thieves.

wwa2b · Jul 30, 2017

I haven't been scammed. I'm saying that this service, which some pro BH guy might have a use for, is being misrepresented in the ad copy which is advertising their service as genuine traffic when it is actually "cold traffic" generated by popunders that will not convert. And by reading the posts it's clear that many newbies have bought this believing it was genuine traffic, based on what was written in the ad copy.
Since I'm not a customer I can't report that I was scammed. But if any moderator looks into this, he'll quickly see what I'm talking about.

wwa2b · Jul 30, 2017

AceWallGromit said:
There's no honour among thieves.

Word

iModBot · Jul 30, 2017

I'm going to send the seller a message and get this edited ASAP.

This thread was reviewed by a mod who is now banned, and it's from 2014 where the rules were much more "relaxed" to these sorts of things.

I'll contact the seller and bring this up to the latest rules and do a re-review over the next couple of weeks.

CyberHour · Jul 30, 2017

99% of the sold "traffic" (from all who sell traffic) is and will be Iceberg -popunder or just hitleap(or similar) traffic (most of it bots over VPS).
Now there is still 0.0001% chance that Iceberg traffic will convert!

If you need Sunny Beach traffic then consider paying more than 0.50 CPC with Adwords or ~0.05c Facebook (where again you will face bot traffic)

HINT:Ask for review copy or/and discount from the saler, test and review by your self

wwa2b · Jul 30, 2017

CyberHour said:
If you need Sunny Beach traffic then consider paying more than 0.50 CPC with Adwords or ~0.05c Facebook (where again you will face bot traffic)

In my niche looks like CPC is between $1 and $2, so I can't make it work. I must stop thinking about it and focus on social..

wwa2b · Jul 31, 2017

Wow. This has been a real eye opener.
My thread gets closed for no other reason than asking a few questions.
But the gang selling cold traffic advertised as hot and laser targeted can just carry on misrepresenting their product.

OK, I got it...

MisterF · Jul 31, 2017

wwa2b said:
Wow. This has been a real eye opener.
My thread gets closed for no other reason than asking a few questions.
But the gang selling cold traffic advertised as hot and laser targeted can just carry on misrepresenting their product.

OK, I got it...

Which thread ?

BassTrackerBoats · Jul 31, 2017

wwa2b said:
Wow. This has been a real eye opener.
My thread gets closed for no other reason than asking a few questions.
But the gang selling cold traffic advertised as hot and laser targeted can just carry on misrepresenting their product.

OK, I got it...

I'm looking at your account and do not see any threads closed.

Please link to it.

wwa2b · Jul 31, 2017

The one about the thread that was deleted. Officially because there were some aff links in it, but that actually were not aff links.
It's interesting to see the speed of action on some threads and the leniency on some others, that's all I'm saying.

https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/strange-case-of-disappearing-post.960110/

Anyway I don't want to go on about this. As I said I got the message.

MisterF · Jul 31, 2017

wwa2b said:
The one about the thread that was deleted. Officially because there were some aff links in it, but that actually were not aff links.
It's interesting to see the speed of action on some threads and the leniency on some others, that's all I'm saying.

This thread ?
https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/full-disclosure-how-to-grow-20-000-followers-per-month-on-ig.960168/

cosmo89 · Jul 31, 2017

Evidence buddy!!! Words just not enough!!

if the service is bought by so many people, then why not the other buyers didn't come forward and complain!!!

Go to the moderators with your proof!!!

wwa2b · Jul 31, 2017

No, the thread I started here about that thread.

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