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The Ultimate Guide to PBN Safety – Leave Zero Footprints

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by randomzeus, Dec 9, 2015.

  1. randomzeus

    randomzeus Regular Member

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    A lot of threads have recently been opened on the subject, so I decided to go with the flow. Now, when it comes to private blog networks, many people mess it up right from the get-go. This guide goes over the mind-frame that you need to have when you are creating a PBN, the most popular footprints that people forget about, and a real-life example of me setting up a sample PBN site. Enjoy guys!

    P.S. If I have missed out on something (there are countless factors at play here, so there's always a chance) do let me know and I will update the post right away.

    Regards!
     
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  2. healzer

    healzer Jr. Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    Thanks for sharing. But maybe next time just write a summary of the entire article, it would be way more beneficial to this community. ;)
     
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    Weblycos Senior Member

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    Love reading your post. another excellent, excellent article mate. I have seen dozons of PBN (how to stay safe thread) at BHW and obviously this is one of the best.
     
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  4. DDuce

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    Nice, had a quick scan and this is some thorough info. I wish stuff like this was around when I started out ;) 5 stars for you!

    Let me quote you on your final paragraph which is very, very important and can't be overstated:

     
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    shamimnasir Newbie

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    Thanks mate for sharing the link here... I have one question though. How much you usually spend to make a PBN network? I mean, what should be the ideal budget for this?
     
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    nice reading ....... i did make my paw in html .... why all use wp ???
     
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    Good read.
    Hope you can convert it as a PDF guide so We can save it.
     
  8. DDuce

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    Depends on the size, obviously, and the quality you're willing to pay for. High authority domains go for a ton of money at auctions. $1.000+ with 20 bidders is very common if the link profile is proper. These things have value.

    Just on IPs and servers alone you're looking at $150+ per month for a 50 site network on proper hosting.

    That's just maintenance. You then get auction prices, articles, themes, setup time - but also paid ;-)
     
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  9. YoofSpeak

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    Thanks for the post.
     
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  10. chhadese

    chhadese Newbie

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    Good guide thanks, but I would have also preferred seeing a summary on this thread itself.
     
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  11. SEOWithV

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    The total amount of money you want to spend is completely down to you. Let's break it down.. at the very lowest, your domain might cost $5, hosting might cost an average of $50/m (shared hosting) and articles might cost you $5 for a few before you spin the rest. The total comes up to around an initial price of around $100 for a bunch of domains set up.

    You're probably thinking.. "FANTASTIC, I've just saved hundreds of dollars".. but that's incorrect. You'd be a fool to spend that little on a PBN, especially if you want it to last as long as possible.

    The "ideal" budget is again down to you my friend. If you have a budget of $10K, then you could get yourself some very juicy domains. If you have a budget of $20K, then you could get yourself even stronger domains.. but that's not to say that a $5K budget won't be sufficient. It will.. as long as you make sure everything else fits into place properly (proper hosting, site setups, domain metrics, articles, etc).

    DDuce,

    Excellent article. I know my fair share about PBNs so most of the stuff you mentioned were things I already knew, but it was refreshing to see that there are others just like me who actually spend proper time on their PBNs. The most important bit for me is making sure the sites don't scream "I'm part of a PBN". The things you mentioned in your post are exactly the type of stuff I do just now. Adding widgets, opt in forms, landing pages, splash pages, active social media accounts and the list goes on!

    I hope more people (especially those who sell PBN services) start following these criteria because this can make all the difference between a PBN that lasts 6 months and a PBN that lasts years.
     
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  12. randomzeus

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    Kind of hard to summarize this entire process mate. I mean, it is just too much of "skating on thin ice" to summarize this one. I recently summarized a tutorial on finding cheap high PR expired domains, but this one just had no way of achieving that effect. That's just IMO of course mate.

    Regards!
     
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    There isn't a definite number here. But in a nutshell, it all depends on how much u are willing to spend. Think of it this way - the more you spend, the more you are going to make from the PBN later on. That is the gist of it if you do it right.

    Regards!
     
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    I featured a WP set up because I know that most people use that platform for their sites, but I did say that the same principles of randomness and none-patterns apply to any type of site you create.

    Regards!
     
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    randomzeus Regular Member

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    I have converted it into a PDF mate and it is available to all people who are on our mailing list. So, all you have to do is subscribe and you will find it.

    Regards!
     
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    Thing is, most people who fall into the category of "not screaming I'm part of a PBN" (damn nice "bumper sticker" by the way) are making their money silently, not caring/having time to share their knowledge with the general public. So, I decided to spread some knowledge to fellow marketers.

    Cheers mate!
     
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    Hey mate,

    that's quite a bit of work, do you outsource any of it? Can you recommend a trusted VA?

    What do you think of using cloudflare for a big chunk of websites, so that they share hosting (high risk, low reward?).
     
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    How many diff money sites (max) do you recommend linking to from 1 PBN domain?
     
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    My man, I don't outsource any of it as I need to know it's done right. Never used a VA, and I don't plan on using one (as of now). I wouldn't risk hosting multiple PBN sites on a single hosting account even if they are all hidden behind CloudFlare's nameservers. It might be safe right now (or not 100%), but in the future, I think Google will easily recognize such scenarios.

    Regards!
     
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    Thanks, i opened the link in the background tab and will read the article tonight. I hope there is "Randomize everything!" call in every paragraph!