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The State Of Free Viewers
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thanks that explains a lot
melodytheysay
Newbie
- Jul 25, 2011
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liska, You have to download the TubeExposure player to earn credit, or refer members. You will find the player in the dashboard. Sorry I just noticed your message.
Also, chemer, I cant post links.
Also, chemer, I cant post links.
melodytheysay
Newbie
- Jul 25, 2011
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djlobo is correct. Youtube is still is having issues counting views, we are seeing some videos in our system getting hundreds of views a day while other are getting 30, despite all of them receiving the same number of impressions. One video was stuck at 2600 views for a week after youtube "fixed" the problem. It finally updated today with 1000 or so more views after all of that time. Unfortunately, it seems pretty hit or miss which videos are updating consistently right now.
melodytheysay
Newbie
- Jul 25, 2011
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chemer, that bug has been fixed. If you open the player again, it will ask you to auto update, it shouldnt happen again.
Sorry, haven't had time to read BHW, so I probably skipped your post. By "hacking", I mean to get credits without watching a single video, and spend 90% less bandwidth. The hack can either just give you normal credits (just like watching the videos), or use 5 proxies and get shitloads of credits every single minute. It also "stimulates" giving subs, likes, favs and comments, which gives you like 10 credits per video (? I'm not sure of the rewards), even though you don't even do any of that.Also...question for spk...
When you refer to "hackers" infiltrating Vagex, for example, what do you mean exactly? I assume that you mean that some users have figured out how to game the system and are earning s*&#-tons of credits, thereby pushing those of us legit users to the back of que when it comes to views, correct (therefore making it, at worst, a waste of time and, at best, a reaaalllly slow process)?
I just wanted to clear that up in case someone might think that "it's been hacked! they're taking my credit card information!!"
I ask because my views via Vagex still seem to be ok. I'm wondering if I'm off base on what you meant.
EDIT: This is in reference to spk's comments in this thread and another related thread in the YT forums. Just wanted to clear that up.
That's why the sub/fav/comment/like counter sometimes is messed up. It tells you that you received 15 likes when you in real only got like 7-8.
And one of the hacks is that you can drain a video of credits, if you know who owns it and want him to loose all credits.
chemer
Power Member
- Nov 10, 2008
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Let me see now using various methods I got 3000 views in 2 days. You really need to pay for a prem membership of vagex then set the length of views to more than 30 that will give you priority views. Then go to fiverr and pay 5 dollars for u2bviews 50 000 view on your video if you order more than one gig.
It works and I am more than happy
It works and I am more than happy
chemer
Power Member
- Nov 10, 2008
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Not noticed any of this really. I use vagex and when I set it to 90 seconds or more I get premium views and at least 3000 views in just a few days
padlock
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Bumping an old thread...but I thought it might be time to update this. Again, this is based on my personal experience - YMMV.
VAGEX: Still delivering views but there was a bit of controversy regarding this service in the past week. It seems that when videos ran out of credits within the system, they were not being removed from rotation. Users were, therefore, receiving 'free' views. In order to counter this, the Vagex team began 'charging' users for these extra views. So, one might log in to their account to find that they now 'owe' Vagex 1k+ credits. Of course, this went over like a lead balloon. Users could not control the fact that they were getting these 'free' views and an outcry of 'not fair' began in the forums. Much to their credit, the Vagex team reversed their standing on the issue and even went so far as to offer users free credits in exchange for their error in judgement. Now, if your video runs out of credits, you simply stop receiving views. Any overage is 'eaten' by Vagex. Best of luck to them for finding a permanent solution and kudos for not passing along the programming goof to users.
I'm still finding that I'm receiving comments from Vagex although I do not have Vagex comments feature enabled on my videos. I suspect that this is related to the above issues in some way. It's kind of a pain to find a comment like "LOL! Hilarious!!! Do more like these!! You're cracking me up!!" on a serious video about mesothelioma. WTF?! It's simple enough to log in and remove it but still a pain. This is not upsetting enough for me to stop using it but I do wish it would get corrected.
I'm also getting 'free' Likes, Subs and Faves via Vagex it seems. I don't have these features enabled on all of my videos but I still get them anyway. While these are a nice 'bonus' (comments notwithstanding), I think it speaks to the problems they're having on the service-side about inadvertently giving these away for free.
VIEWET: There's been a mandatory update for the software but the primary 'crashing problem' does not seem to have been corrected. I'm still finding that the program crashes randomly. Also, views are terribly slow with this service for the moment. I really hope that the guys are not giving up on this project. Things have been kind of quiet here. Their forums are kind of a ghost town which leads me to wonder if many users are giving up. This would be a shame.
u2bVIEWS: Unfortunately, this service has seemingly still not recovered from the YT update. I'm still seeing views but, like Viewet, they are very slow. For both Viewet and u2bVIEWS, I get a sense that both developers have concluded to wait until things shake out with YT before making any major changes. I'll continue to collect credits for both services but I'm going to hold off on purchasing anything for the time being.
EHV: I give up. And that's a shame. EHV has quickly fallen behind all other view providers by seemingly not giving a f*&#. I have tons of credits with this service (seriously...over 100K credits) and while I'm throwing a few views to my videos with minimal results, it's truly not really worth the effort. At least with the other, aforementioned services, the developers seem to care about updating their product. Short of the previously praised Chrome plug-in...there's nothing worthy to speak of here.
TUBE VIEW TRADER: This service hasn't been mentioned before but I did want to throw it out there as it is working as promised. TVT won't get you views but it works very well for receiving 'likes'. It's free and operates as a Chrome plug-in. Just activate it a couple of times per day with one of your YT accounts and you'll 'like' videos and earn credits for 'likes' on your videos as well. I've had great success with this. A bit of advice for noobs, however, don't start the 'like' process on your videos until you have plenty of comments and views. Otherwise, your videos will stand out like a sore thumb and look 'fake'. If your videos are new, just keep this service in your arsenal for future use. TVT can be downloaded here.
In short, most of the services are still having issues. I would caution everyone to also not fall for anyone offering a "solid solution" for YT views for only XXX amount of money. NO ONE has a solution at the moment. You're best to wait it out. DON'T spend any money for the moment...especially on services with no track record. The above services (with the exception of EHV) have a history of working properly and delivering as promised. If they aren't working in 'free mode', you can be assured that these other fly-by night services won't work either...and chances are, they are simply using Viewet, Vagex and u2bviews to deliver the hits you've paid for. I can't stress enough, wait. This from someone who makes a good living via YT.
Any thoughts? Corrections?
Also...a quick rant, if you don't mind. An open letter to my fellow BHW YT users:
Dudes/Dudettes....when you create your throwaway YT accounts, please do us all a favor and use realistic usernames and take the time to complete your profile (add a pic, a bio, etc). Don't be lazy. It does none of us any good if you name your YT account 'Sub4SubYeahBaby' or 'iouoiwyherhnf'. It looks FAKE. You just force me to go through and remove you from my subscriber lists or remove your comments. Also, take some time to log in to these accounts on occasion and watch/favorite a few 'legit' videos (y'know, the latest Lady Gaga video, whatever) and also subscribe to some other popular channels. This way, you don't appear to only be subscribing, liking, favoriting spam.
Our goal should always be to make all of the above look as realistic as possible. Also, it just puts you in the cross-hairs of YT/Google to have your account flagged and removed. You're wasting time. Take just a few minutes to upload a realistic pic of a normal person, write a brief bio, complete your location (USA would be ideal, I believe for most of us; Europe at least). Keep in mind that this info also proves useful in our Insight stats. I hate explaining to my American clients why most of their views appear to be coming from Vietnam (remember YT is going to chose your default location based on whatever proxy you might be using to create the account; don't assume that it's going to default to your own home country). All of the above will take you less than five minutes per week, per account. DON'T BE LAZY, ya bastards!!
OK done. Carry on.
VAGEX: Still delivering views but there was a bit of controversy regarding this service in the past week. It seems that when videos ran out of credits within the system, they were not being removed from rotation. Users were, therefore, receiving 'free' views. In order to counter this, the Vagex team began 'charging' users for these extra views. So, one might log in to their account to find that they now 'owe' Vagex 1k+ credits. Of course, this went over like a lead balloon. Users could not control the fact that they were getting these 'free' views and an outcry of 'not fair' began in the forums. Much to their credit, the Vagex team reversed their standing on the issue and even went so far as to offer users free credits in exchange for their error in judgement. Now, if your video runs out of credits, you simply stop receiving views. Any overage is 'eaten' by Vagex. Best of luck to them for finding a permanent solution and kudos for not passing along the programming goof to users.
I'm still finding that I'm receiving comments from Vagex although I do not have Vagex comments feature enabled on my videos. I suspect that this is related to the above issues in some way. It's kind of a pain to find a comment like "LOL! Hilarious!!! Do more like these!! You're cracking me up!!" on a serious video about mesothelioma. WTF?! It's simple enough to log in and remove it but still a pain. This is not upsetting enough for me to stop using it but I do wish it would get corrected.
I'm also getting 'free' Likes, Subs and Faves via Vagex it seems. I don't have these features enabled on all of my videos but I still get them anyway. While these are a nice 'bonus' (comments notwithstanding), I think it speaks to the problems they're having on the service-side about inadvertently giving these away for free.
VIEWET: There's been a mandatory update for the software but the primary 'crashing problem' does not seem to have been corrected. I'm still finding that the program crashes randomly. Also, views are terribly slow with this service for the moment. I really hope that the guys are not giving up on this project. Things have been kind of quiet here. Their forums are kind of a ghost town which leads me to wonder if many users are giving up. This would be a shame.
u2bVIEWS: Unfortunately, this service has seemingly still not recovered from the YT update. I'm still seeing views but, like Viewet, they are very slow. For both Viewet and u2bVIEWS, I get a sense that both developers have concluded to wait until things shake out with YT before making any major changes. I'll continue to collect credits for both services but I'm going to hold off on purchasing anything for the time being.
EHV: I give up. And that's a shame. EHV has quickly fallen behind all other view providers by seemingly not giving a f*&#. I have tons of credits with this service (seriously...over 100K credits) and while I'm throwing a few views to my videos with minimal results, it's truly not really worth the effort. At least with the other, aforementioned services, the developers seem to care about updating their product. Short of the previously praised Chrome plug-in...there's nothing worthy to speak of here.
TUBE VIEW TRADER: This service hasn't been mentioned before but I did want to throw it out there as it is working as promised. TVT won't get you views but it works very well for receiving 'likes'. It's free and operates as a Chrome plug-in. Just activate it a couple of times per day with one of your YT accounts and you'll 'like' videos and earn credits for 'likes' on your videos as well. I've had great success with this. A bit of advice for noobs, however, don't start the 'like' process on your videos until you have plenty of comments and views. Otherwise, your videos will stand out like a sore thumb and look 'fake'. If your videos are new, just keep this service in your arsenal for future use. TVT can be downloaded here.
In short, most of the services are still having issues. I would caution everyone to also not fall for anyone offering a "solid solution" for YT views for only XXX amount of money. NO ONE has a solution at the moment. You're best to wait it out. DON'T spend any money for the moment...especially on services with no track record. The above services (with the exception of EHV) have a history of working properly and delivering as promised. If they aren't working in 'free mode', you can be assured that these other fly-by night services won't work either...and chances are, they are simply using Viewet, Vagex and u2bviews to deliver the hits you've paid for. I can't stress enough, wait. This from someone who makes a good living via YT.
Any thoughts? Corrections?
Also...a quick rant, if you don't mind. An open letter to my fellow BHW YT users:
Dudes/Dudettes....when you create your throwaway YT accounts, please do us all a favor and use realistic usernames and take the time to complete your profile (add a pic, a bio, etc). Don't be lazy. It does none of us any good if you name your YT account 'Sub4SubYeahBaby' or 'iouoiwyherhnf'. It looks FAKE. You just force me to go through and remove you from my subscriber lists or remove your comments. Also, take some time to log in to these accounts on occasion and watch/favorite a few 'legit' videos (y'know, the latest Lady Gaga video, whatever) and also subscribe to some other popular channels. This way, you don't appear to only be subscribing, liking, favoriting spam.
Our goal should always be to make all of the above look as realistic as possible. Also, it just puts you in the cross-hairs of YT/Google to have your account flagged and removed. You're wasting time. Take just a few minutes to upload a realistic pic of a normal person, write a brief bio, complete your location (USA would be ideal, I believe for most of us; Europe at least). Keep in mind that this info also proves useful in our Insight stats. I hate explaining to my American clients why most of their views appear to be coming from Vietnam (remember YT is going to chose your default location based on whatever proxy you might be using to create the account; don't assume that it's going to default to your own home country). All of the above will take you less than five minutes per week, per account. DON'T BE LAZY, ya bastards!!
OK done. Carry on.
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programs like viewet and tubeexposure suck, you know why? cuz i run on a mac. at least vagex has a firefox plugin. programs like viewet and tubeexposure don't even have that. u2bviews is cool because it's browser-based. enhance views sucks but at least it's browser based and i guess a view is a view so might as well get it.
chemer
Power Member
- Nov 10, 2008
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it looks to me like youtube have changed their viewing script again and this is probably why they removed all their protection the other day.
Obviously they are aware of all these free viewers and want them stopped
I don't know what this means for others. Some people have the cash to go to dedicated places to get their views.
But it would appear that whilst it is easy to reverse engineer other programs youtube staff probably have found out how the scripts work.
So now of late we have had viewet with ratios at least over 1 in 3 and more recently close to 1 to 1.
U2B basically was delivering 200-300 a day now down to low numbers.
Vagex again does not seem to be getting there.
Result is that youtube must be using something to check IPs frequency and sources in order to see if they are legit.
How do you get past this????
It would seem that youtube would not consider banning traffic from dig, facebook and twitter.
If 5000 people viewed off twitter 5000 people would show up on the view counter.
However viewet is not using these. The solution is simple. A script that bounces traffic off all social networking sites that youtube deals with. Youtube would not risk offending those sites.
SPK probably has the script and the experience to bring this to a reality.
This is just my idea and my be BS. I am no coder of views I wish I were.
Steve
Obviously they are aware of all these free viewers and want them stopped
I don't know what this means for others. Some people have the cash to go to dedicated places to get their views.
But it would appear that whilst it is easy to reverse engineer other programs youtube staff probably have found out how the scripts work.
So now of late we have had viewet with ratios at least over 1 in 3 and more recently close to 1 to 1.
U2B basically was delivering 200-300 a day now down to low numbers.
Vagex again does not seem to be getting there.
Result is that youtube must be using something to check IPs frequency and sources in order to see if they are legit.
How do you get past this????
It would seem that youtube would not consider banning traffic from dig, facebook and twitter.
If 5000 people viewed off twitter 5000 people would show up on the view counter.
However viewet is not using these. The solution is simple. A script that bounces traffic off all social networking sites that youtube deals with. Youtube would not risk offending those sites.
SPK probably has the script and the experience to bring this to a reality.
This is just my idea and my be BS. I am no coder of views I wish I were.
Steve
izSpK
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- Sep 5, 2010
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R.I.P Public YouTube Blackhat and welcome private methods and tricks. So many less noobs on there = much more cash for individuals.
chemer
Power Member
- Nov 10, 2008
- 540
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SPK you have the algo which is no threat to you yet you won't give it to anyone else. The big fish already can still deliver the views where as the small fish suffer as usual. So why not tell the small fish what the algo is instead of keeping it to yourself when you know damn well that viewet and others can't compete with the big boys and selling of views so you would have nothing to worry about. The big boys can all sell views easily. Its only the small ones like U2bviews, Viewet that seem to have a problem. Although I have to say Vagex is currently working full pelt and their ratio looks good.
Steve
Steve
danielgm55
Regular Member
- Apr 3, 2011
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Free YouTube Views at View2be
Another site for Free YouTube Views is: View2be
We are reinvesting all revenues back into the site to continuously improve and enhance the site for the members.
Yea i stumbled across that site 2 months or so ago..initially it was pretty good..quicker than the others..but then it just stopped all together. I haven't been back up there so I can't comment about the state that it is now...but G/L
danielgm55
Regular Member
- Apr 3, 2011
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Yea SpK holds ancient Chinese secret to mobile views with Tiger Claw
roud:..its frustratingly funny.. .I had a brain poot last weekend and thought that i figured it out..but didn't lol..I ended up wasting my entire Saturday .To be honest i can't say that i would share it if i did figure it out..not that i'm selfish, but i think people would abuse it and soon it would be updated or worthless..i can't be mad though he did give me TTB :drinking2 CHEERS TO THE FREAKIN' WEEKEND
chemer
Power Member
- Nov 10, 2008
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I have a free viewer for you its called google. You don't believe this but the new system even promotes your videos for nothing. I just received 80 views in just a few mins from uploading a new video because it sent to all my subs.
It makes tube toolbox and other programs obselete because it does it for you. People cant accuse you of spamming as google does it itself lol
It makes tube toolbox and other programs obselete because it does it for you. People cant accuse you of spamming as google does it itself lol