The State Of Free Viewers

MillionaireMindset said:

I'm not even going to speak on this. Viewet will prove itself and you shall see. Goodluck.

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Looking at your words it seems that you are tying to create some type of war with other traffic exchange sites, humbleness is an very imporant factor if you want to succeed.
Thats all i have to say, and believe me, im not jealous for others people success, i wish you nothing more then lucky to achieve your success!

djlobo said:

Looking at your words it seems that you are tying to create some type of war with other traffic exchange sites, humbleness is an very imporant factor if you want to succeed.
Thats all i have to say, and believe me, im not jealous for others people success, i wish you nothing more then lucky to achieve your success!

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Looking for war? Not at all. Simply stating facts and getting customers/users I may have lost in the past back. Your system is completely flawed and I will make a post about that now why people should not use your view increaser. I'm done here.

MillionaireMindset said:

Everything you have said negative about Viewet has been changed. I have pretty much taken over everything by myself now and do nothing but dedicate my time to getting my users and customers the results and features they want/need. We have had multiple new updates in the last 3 weeks and we just implemented a secret viewing script which we hope counts close to 100% views now. Come give Viewet another chance, I promise you won't leave again.

P.S. the referrer is no longer Optimizet and I plan to add 1-4 new domains to the rotation list every week.

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I gave you the benefit of doubt and gave another try of Viewet. Hopefully, my account was still alive even with zero credits for a long time. Looking at the impressions I gave before at my videos, and the views I received I still have dubious feelings about the program, but whatever, I was going to do another test.

I earned 600 credits and put them on a video. Now 4 (four) hours later I see the video received 16 (sixteen) impressions! If the rate keeps the same I will have 24*4 = 96 impressions per day! I can generate that amount of impressions by myself, without the need of view increasers. Of course every view adds to the counter, but it is hard to prove they will be good amount to be considarable.

Going further, I went to the forum, which I did not read for a long while. It's the same quality of posts as before - random misguided users posting and admins and moderators trashing and slamming them all the time with their fuсk off, scrеw you and die attitude.

The above are somewhat the positive points that I found about the program currently. The negative was that at some time the Viewet viewer just disappeared from my desktop. No message, no window, nothing. It just disappeared and I was not earning credits anymore. First think - minimized, but no, it just disappeared so I had to start it again, after searching for some minutes where the fucк it gone. Not a good option if you are going to use it on regular basis - constantly need to watch over it if it is not disappeared somewhere.

Tommorow, I will see what amount of the credits turned into YouTube views (Not impressions). Of course there is no warranty that some of the old maintainers of the program will not return and set the referrer back to optimized, so I shall use this with caution.
Regards

i would try viewet again on my regular computer, but i cant. i dared to say that spk was less than professional. and yes, that is the tone in which i said it. the response....

Fuck off, thanks.
This ban is not set to expire.

so yea, i am out

I am also having similar issues as Barbara. Viewet still suddenly disappears (crashes?) as I indicated in my original post. Also, my credits (which I paid for) appear to have just stalled. I must assume that this has something to do with the program crashing. Once again, I think that all users are experiencing this problem and this is causing the views to slow. I would also concur with Barbara that the ratio is now incredibly low. I do hope that MM's indication that things will be improving soon is not just a boast. So far, I've not seen the promised results. I'm holding steady, though, and continuing to run the program. I'll hold off on purchasing any more credits, though, for the time being. I've always found Viewet to be a very reliable source of views so I'll give the guys the benefit of the doubt for the time being.

u2bviews also appears to be in "stand-by mode". With all due respect to dj (who, again, has always been helpful and forthcoming about his site's problems; MM - he doesn't deserve the snide comments, man...he's always been very complimentary of/professional toward Viewet in the past). My credits on that site also appear to have stalled. I still have the aforementioned two videos that haven't moved at all (the credits aren't being spent). I think I'll just delete these and lose the credits I had and try again.

Vagex does appear to still be working properly. As for EHV, I honestly haven't really done anything with it since my original post. So, I can't really speak on that. Their new Chrome plug-in does appear to continue to work properly (not one crash since firing it up several days ago). But, I haven't tried to redeem any credits. May try that later today just to burn off some of the hundreds of thousands of credits I now have there.

All of the above problems relating to stalled view counts could very well have more to do with the present YT glitches than anything to do with Viewet, u2bviews, et al. The technical issues still stand, however.

Haters gonna hate...but let's do keep in mind that these are free services. You only really have reason to bitch if you have spent money on credits and not received your views. Otherwise, run the programs and see what happens. You're not out anything, really. There's no need to sling mud. I hate that every time a thread like this is started, it always becomes a flame war. We're all on the same team in this forum. As someone that spends a nice chunk of change on all of these services, it turns me off as a customer to see that kind of behavior between the developers and, quite frankly, some customers that just have ridiculous expectations. I think we could do a better job of keeping things civil. Alright, I'm off my soapbox....carry on.

padlock said:

I am also having similar issues as Barbara. Viewet still suddenly disappears (crashes?) as I indicated in my original post. Also, my credits (which I paid for) appear to have just stalled. I must assume that this has something to do with the program crashing. Once again, I think that all users are experiencing this problem and this is causing the views to slow. I would also concur with Barbara that the ratio is now incredibly low. I do hope that MM's indication that things will be improving soon is not just a boast. So far, I've not seen the promised results. I'm holding steady, though, and continuing to run the program. I'll hold off on purchasing any more credits, though, for the time being. I've always found Viewet to be a very reliable source of views so I'll give the guys the benefit of the doubt for the time being.

u2bviews also appears to be in "stand-by mode". With all due respect to dj (who, again, has always been helpful and forthcoming about his site's problems; MM - he doesn't deserve the snide comments, man...he's always been very complimentary of/professional toward Viewet in the past). My credits on that site also appear to have stalled. I still have the aforementioned two videos that haven't moved at all (the credits aren't being spent). I think I'll just delete these and lose the credits I had and try again.

Vagex does appear to still be working properly. As for EHV, I honestly haven't really done anything with it since my original post. So, I can't really speak on that. Their new Chrome plug-in does appear to continue to work properly (not one crash since firing it up several days ago). But, I haven't tried to redeem any credits. May try that later today just to burn off some of the hundreds of thousands of credits I now have there.

All of the above problems relating to stalled view counts could very well have more to do with the present YT glitches than anything to do with Viewet, u2bviews, et al. The technical issues still stand, however.

Haters gonna hate...but let's do keep in mind that these are free services. You only really have reason to bitch if you have spent money on credits and not received your views. Otherwise, run the programs and see what happens. You're not out anything, really. There's no need to sling mud. I hate that every time a thread like this is started, it always becomes a flame war. We're all on the same team in this forum. As someone that spends a nice chunk of change on all of these services, it turns me off as a customer to see that kind of behavior between the developers and, quite frankly, some customers that just have ridiculous expectations. I think we could do a better job of keeping things civil. Alright, I'm off my soapbox....carry on.

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The problems are from youtube itself yet,
check this statment from a youtube employe:

Hey guys,

First of all, I want to thank all of you for coming here and highlighting that there are still some discrepancies between Insight and public viewcount after 7/18. I concede that one of our original statements--All views from July 18th forward are being counted correctly in both Insight and public viewcounts--now appears to be false. Thanks to you guys we have identified some counterexamples, and are working on getting the affected videos up to speed.

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Source: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/youtube/thread?tid=6293dd71292f0157&hl=en&start=80

I would like to make a input in here:

Vagex is actually a really good system if it wasn't for the hackers. Yes, you may think it is working at 100% right now, but it is not. It is actually FULL of hackers right now.

I tried to make a test-application to test out my friends theory, and was able to make it proxy-based and all that good stuff, and gathered around 6000 credits in 5 minutes. I already sent in a few eMails regarding this issue in the past, and they "rewarded" me with 2000 credits, but never did anything about it. If you think putting a IP limit on the credit script helps, you are wrong.

They should just encrypt all the data sent over to their servers, not make it go to a PHP script using a BROWSER, and input some information about the user to get the credits. You can actually get credits manually by just analyzing the traffic using WireShark.

It has potential, but is being ruined by hackers. The staff is also very rude when I sent them the 2nd mail telling them it is not fixed, so I may just release my application when I am home from vacation...

I say use all of them, they all work well. If you rotate between the different services it cant hurt at all. My personal fav of course is TubeExposure , but I think that all of them have their merits.

ok using various methods I got 1000 views in just a few days. To my mind u2bviews and vagex is the best compilation. Vagex now has a comment feature.

One thing though I still do not know how to switch on the priority views option.

Steve

melodytheysay, all due respect, but it's pretty obvious that you're involved with TubeExposure in some way (we can see this by clicking on your user-name and looking at your previous posts). A quick glance at the site tells me that it's not very well developed and certainly not a player alongside Viewet, EHV, u2bviews, Vagex, etc. While I'm surely a fan of anyone attempting to crack the YT code, I think that this needs to be pointed out to any new browsers on this forum. As with all free services, trying them out can't hurt...but let your site stand on its own; don't hype it too much. That's IM 101.

As far as a recent report on the real players...I don't have much.

Viewet seems to still be stalled. The guys are aware of the issues and are (rightly) focused on the crashing problem. A few of the devs are on vacation and will be addressing the problem when they return. For the moment, I'm not buying credits until I see that they've resolved the problems; I suspect that they would recommend that all customers do the same. I'm impressed that they have taken the time to check in and debate the potential problems in their forum even while sunning themselves on the beaches.

u2bviews: I think djlobo has been very direct in this thread and his comments speak for themselves. He's dealing with the problem but, for the moment, progress is slow. Like Viewet, most of my vids are stalled. I'm still collecting credits (nothing to lose - I just have it running on machines in the background) but not buying anything for the moment.

EHV: I tried the custom comment feature here over the weekend and had the same results as before. Something along the lines of "Hey! Cool video. I love it" became "He&! Coo. * l(@e it!" (posted twice by the same username) I deleted the comments and moved on. Also tried using my credits for views...haven't seen anything in the stats to indicate that anything came my way. YT might need to update the stats, though, so I'll reserve judgement on that. Chrome plug-in still works well and credits are being earned; problem is: what to do with these credits once you have them?

Vagex: Views are definitely coming in. I think it's the only program working at the moment. Lots of views from Vietnam, I'm noticing. ha! But, hey, it's something. I've also noticed a bunch of comments coming in after they've launched their new comment feature. Thing is, I didn't ask for comments. I'm wondering if this was a bonus of some sort? I wanted to see how the feature worked before allowing the generic comments to appear but I seem to be getting them anyway. I assume that these comments are coming from Vagex because I can't imagine that someone would write "Amazing! How did you do that?!" on a music video. Ugggh. Deleted and moved on. No harm, no foul - but they should let us know if they're going to do this. Once again, it might NOT be Vagex doing this (I can't track where the comments are coming from, of course) but my best assumption is this was an attempt at "rewarding" long-time users that kinda backfired. Not mad. Just curious.

It looks like we're all still in limbo for the moment. Best of luck to everyone. I know we're all pulling for things to come back together soon!

Also...question for spk...

When you refer to "hackers" infiltrating Vagex, for example, what do you mean exactly? I assume that you mean that some users have figured out how to game the system and are earning s*&#-tons of credits, thereby pushing those of us legit users to the back of que when it comes to views, correct (therefore making it, at worst, a waste of time and, at best, a reaaalllly slow process)?

I just wanted to clear that up in case someone might think that "it's been hacked! they're taking my credit card information!!"

I ask because my views via Vagex still seem to be ok. I'm wondering if I'm off base on what you meant.

EDIT: This is in reference to spk's comments in this thread and another related thread in the YT forums. Just wanted to clear that up.

Hey padlock, you are problably one of the most "impartial" users that i saw here while doing an review (wich is a very good thing)
regarding the views, i was since yesterday doing some adjustments on u2bviews (infact i have been like almost 4 days in a round not thinking in anything else other then youtube views ahah ), and today i aplied something wich is already runing on the u2bviews, i was pretty amazed because some hours passed and my testing videos went from "stalling" to "jumping", in other words the views seem to start coming again, to say the truth i dont know if they are coming again because of my last update of today or if it was youtube all the time being lazy on counting views, anyways they are starting to move normaly now it seems , i think i can sleep now lol.

Sweet! Very cool, man. Thanks for the update. Fingers crossed that things are "back to normal"!! I think I speak for everyone here by saying "thank you" for your hard work on u2bviews. And thanks for compliments!

padlock, yes im involved with TubeExposure, I am part of the outreach team, I wasnt trying to hide that fact. Just wanted to give people more options. But I can tell you it is very well developed and our testing has shown it works just as well as the other free services. We are new( as in we just opened our doors yesterday) and we are trying to grow our membership.

What I can say is that we at TubeExposure think that competition is good and that as a video producer I use all of the services and achieve impressive results.

I think u2bviews, vagex, are viewet great services, but I think we at TubeExposure have something to offer also.Such as:

• We do not have many restrictions. So you can put as many videos into the queue as you would like.
• We dont have proxy restrictions so you can use as many proxies as you like, as long as they are anonymous or elite proxies.
• We buy back credits at the same exchange rate as vagex.
• We allow you to earn up to 3 credits per view.
• Members using our player have the option to share videos they like on social networking sites( and thus increasing the chance of your videos going viral)
• Views show up as no link referral
• And we offer 200 credits for each person you refer to the service. With no cap on referrals.

So as i stated, just throwing our hat into the ring, trying to give people more options.

Fair enough. I'll give it a test drive. Best of luck!

I use a few services and the result is 2500 views in one day. I can't tell you what combination i use just that it works.

Steve

what is the url for tubeexposure

isSpK said:

I would like to make a input in here:

Vagex is actually a really good system if it wasn't for the hackers. Yes, you may think it is working at 100% right now, but it is not. It is actually FULL of hackers right now.

I tried to make a test-application to test out my friends theory, and was able to make it proxy-based and all that good stuff, and gathered around 6000 credits in 5 minutes. I already sent in a few eMails regarding this issue in the past, and they "rewarded" me with 2000 credits, but never did anything about it. If you think putting a IP limit on the credit script helps, you are wrong.

They should just encrypt all the data sent over to their servers, not make it go to a PHP script using a BROWSER, and input some information about the user to get the credits. You can actually get credits manually by just analyzing the traffic using WireShark.

It has potential, but is being ruined by hackers. The staff is also very rude when I sent them the 2nd mail telling them it is not fixed, so I may just release my application when I am home from vacation...

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all I know is I got 2500 in a day so I am happy

melodytheysay said:

padlock, yes im involved with TubeExposure, I am part of the outreach team, I wasnt trying to hide that fact. Just wanted to give people more options. But I can tell you it is very well developed and our testing has shown it works just as well as the other free services. We are new( as in we just opened our doors yesterday) and we are trying to grow our membership.

What I can say is that we at TubeExposure think that competition is good and that as a video producer I use all of the services and achieve impressive results.

I think u2bviews, vagex, are viewet great services, but I think we at TubeExposure have something to offer also.Such as:

• We do not have many restrictions. So you can put as many videos into the queue as you would like.
• We dont have proxy restrictions so you can use as many proxies as you like, as long as they are anonymous or elite proxies.
• We buy back credits at the same exchange rate as vagex.
• We allow you to earn up to 3 credits per view.
• Members using our player have the option to share videos they like on social networking sites( and thus increasing the chance of your videos going viral)
• Views show up as no link referral
• And we offer 200 credits for each person you refer to the service. With no cap on referrals.

So as i stated, just throwing our hat into the ring, trying to give people more options.

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you say a lot about this service but I don't see any url for me to test drive it

Ok well I gave tube exposure a chance left it on at night and in the morning it had a load of pop up windows that i had to close down. So I think I will give it a miss let me know when you have ironed these bugs out.

Also your prices are pretty steep compared to vagex and viewet.

I am happy with u2bviews I have over 2000 views on one of my videos in just a few days.

Steve