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The State Of Free Viewers

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by padlock, Jul 21, 2011.

  1. padlock

    padlock Regular Member

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    First, let me say that the following is based solely on my PERSONAL experience. YMMV. By all means, please join the conversation and give your take on the subject.

    I'm starting this thread to compare recent experiences with the primary YT Free Viewers (Viewet, Enhance Views, u2bviews and Vagex). I utilize these services, among other methods, to jump start my videos. Because of the nature of my work, I don't typically need these services to provide a steady stream of views; mine grow organically as they're not marketing videos. Still, I do rely on them to get me past the dreaded freeze point and into regular rotation on YT. While I'm not unhappy with any of them, I will say that in the past week or so, I've noticed a lot of them having trouble.

    VIEWET: According to the Viewet forums, they have been having trouble since the Panda update. The developers are working to correct the issue (spk is no longer involved with this project, for the record, and the new guys appear to know what they're doing...but the transition has been a bit rough).

    Views are still being counted from Viewet but the process is slower than usual. Viewet has always been super slow...but steady. Lately, though, I'm noticing that it's become a crawl. Still, the views are still coming so no major complaints there.

    My biggest issue is that lately (since the most recent update), the program crashes unexpectedly. I haven't witnessed the crash but when running it overnight, I wake in the morning to find it no longer running. Weird. I must assume that this is part of the reason for the slowdown; everyone else's program is crashing as well and therefore causing the views to slow.

    Also, has anyone else noticed that the "clear cache" function sometimes goes crazy? I've had nearly 30 instances of this window appear on my computer at one time. It's not daily but easily twice a week this occurs. I then have to restart the machine.

    I've alerted the developers to my concerns via their forums.

    ENHANCE VIEWS: For some time, this service has been a mess. The guys over there seem to be overwhelmed with the project. One of the coolest features of EHV has always been the "custom comments". At one time, EHV was perfect for getting comments going on videos. Lately, however, bad syntax and repeat posts of comments have made it nearly impossible to utilize this. Additionally, their slow drip of views (250 max, one video at a time) makes it pain to utilize. A cursory glance at their forums will show that many users are getting frustrated with the service and leaving all together. I'm wondering how long this will continue to be a viable option.

    On the plus side, however, they just introduced a Chrome plug-in that seems to working very well. It doesn't crash nearly as often as the Firefox browser-based system. Still, right now, I'm earning a ton of credits with little to spend them on.

    u2bVIEWS: Not sure what's happening here at all. I know that the developer frequents BHW. For lack of a forum on his site, this is probably the only place to address any issues with his system. He's always been very forthcoming about any problems he's having and, to his credit, he was the first to sound the alarms about things not working properly since the most recent YT update.

    Presently on u2bviews, I have two videos with a lot of credits that I added nearly two weeks ago. Not one credit has been spent. I'm wondering if I added them during an update or something and they just didn't "take". I haven't tried deleting them and adding them again as these credits will be lost (credits are non-refundable on u2bviews) but it appears that this might be my only option. Other videos appear to have simply "stalled". My most recent adds are working but, again, very slowly. I'm not referring to the views on YT being slow - rather, credits being spent is very slow.

    Yesterday, u2bviews offered a 1:1 ratio for viewing. I don't think that this worked properly as I walked away with very few credits (less than 500 when I would have expected it to be well over 2 or 3K) and even fewer views. In fairness, I'll give YT time to catch up to see how this played out. Regardless, I would really hate to see u2bviews falter as this service appears very promising.

    VAGEX: I'm going to eat a little crow on this one. As regulars will note, I initially denounced this service and even stooped so low as to make fun it's name. LOL. I'm sorry; it's still silly....and I maintain that it WASN'T working properly a month or so ago. Those bugs now appear to have been worked out. Giving credit where credit's due - it appears to be the most reliable at the moment. I'm seeing a pretty steady stream of views. Perhaps the coolest feature of this service is the ability to enter the desired search string for a video (i.e. "Foster The Children live in Los Angeles"). This has helped me to eliminate the generic search requests in my stats.

    Really, my only complaint with Vagex is that the credits are comparatively pricey. Still, I suppose if it's the best working system for the moment, they can afford to charge a little more.

    So, that's my two cents. What is everyone else experiencing? Good? Bad? Obviously, this thread should not supersede reaching out to the respective developers via their own forums should you be having any problems; don't shout that something is broken and not contact the owners of the site directly - they may or may not be lurking here. Nevertheless, I think it would be beneficial to the community to discuss the general advantages/disadvantages of the services given the recent updates. Share your thoughts!

    EDIT: Also, I feel the need to stress that these are all FREE services (unless, of course, you purchase credits as well...as I do). So, with that in mind, I think we need to be understanding of any glitches. All of the developers should be applauded for their hard work so that we can benefit from their efforts. This post is just meant to discuss the overall issues with programs of this nature vs. the recent YT updates/slow view counts. Collectively, we might be able to assist the developers by providing our insights. Bottom line, try 'em all. They all have their strengths and weaknesses.
     
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    Thanks for sharing this information with us. I've read it all and I must agree with You. I wanted to join u2bviews, but after Your 'review', I won't :D
     
  3. djlobo

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    Hey there, regarding u2bviews,keep in mind that if is not working on our end, hardly will work on other traffic exchanges, we all use the same basics, wich is traffic exchange video system, they dont difter that much one from others, check the Youtube partner forums (the "Watching section") where exist allot of topics talking about the views that still after day 18 not move at all or move very litle, as it seems that the problem on youtube views is still happening:
    https://sites.google.com/site/ytpar...viewcountdiscrepancybetweeninsightpublicpages
    I quote: --Currently, views are being logged by our system but they are not surfacing properly in public areas such as the Watch Page or Insight.
    if you notice on the most viewed section you have two videos that can show that something is not right, one from nigahiga wich have 4.000.000 subscribers, but their views have been stuck for days on the 1.000.000 marker, and only move a couple of views every day when it should be already 3.000.000 views, you have also rebecca black behind the scenes video wich is also on the most viewed section but only with 500.000 views around, and same problem, when it moves, it moves just like 100.000 at each time after an entire day, when a video is featured on the Most Viewed section tends to get AT LEAST, 1.000.000 views, AND we are talking about nigahiga and about rebecca black wich still at very "low" views.
     
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  4. padlock

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    Well said, as always, djlobo. Good points. And thanks for pointing that out.

    My post was not meant to detract anyone from using any of the services. I'd recommend that anyone interested should work with them all. I'm certain that they will all work as designed again in time.
     
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    I appreciate the info, I've had some nice experiences with Vagex lately, seems to bring up the views nicely.
     
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    I used Viewet, Enhance Views in the past and I will most probably not use them again. Viewet even if delivering good amount of views in the past, was ruined by the arrogant maintainers of the service who never cared about the users. The fact that Viewet put optimizet.com as referrer is another turn-off point of the site.

    Enhance Views have lousy interface and complex credits system that is hard to maintain and get used to. It is good for likes and comments, but the ratio for spent credits seems to be very bad if working at all.

    Vagex and u2bviews are the best services at the moment. I still can not decide which is the better, because both have strong points, but for free users u2bviews looks the better choise for what it offers (views).

    With Vagex you get very good credits to views ratio, but you can not be sure how many views, likes, favourities and subscribers you will recieve for the spent credits. If you are a free user you can have maximum five videos in the system, which can be a problem, but you can delete any video any time and it will refund your credits. If you leave a video for getting likes, favourities and subscribers on Vagex, you can earn a lot in some weeks time (I have over 900 subscribers and hundreds of likes from Vagex alone). On Vagex you can easily earn credits by different means including by referrals, money, tweets, subscribe, likes, favourities.

    u2bviews on the other hand have no limitation of the amount of videos you can put in the system, often have promotions for earning extra credits and used to have 1:1 ratio that is now 2:1 which is the best ratio of any services. The views usually get slow after the second day the video is placed, but you can boost the videos or re-add them again if the credits are used. They promised channel views and even likes in the past but they are still not implemented. Earning credits on u2bviews is by rotating videos, referrals or by purchasing from the website owner, but there is not direct link to buy credits on the website.
     
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    Barbara (or djlobo, for that matter), how do you purchase views on u2bviews? I was not aware that this was an option. I may be interested in buying regularly once the whole YT thing shakes out.

    Thanks for your comments.
     
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    I had over 9000 views in a few days LOL
     
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    On fiverr search for my nickname there ;)
     
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    VAGEx is DOING DAMAGE FOR ME - IT IS THE BEST SITE I HAVE EVER USED - and because it gives likes to I am getting very high up in the rankings - Best YT view site I have to say and it is very fast right now
     
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    i dont get how people would use vagex for free unless i am missing something. every single credit i earn, i get my having to go and click for a new video rather than just having it keep turning over to new videos. that is a total pain in the ass
     
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    Are you sure you have auto-view toggled on?
     
  13. MillionaireMindset

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    I own Viewet and here's what I will say about the progress over the last week for us.

    Today's update released a completely secret script for viewing videos in which we hope to count close to 100% of the views. The only two people who know how it works is myself and the developer.

    The crashing BUG should be fixed now, if not please let me know via the forums. Along with multiple other enhancements and BUG fixes.

    All other YouTube View program/websites will be dead and useless very soon. I won't elaborate on this publicly, but you will all be able to see for yourselves very soon. If you're not already a Viewet customer, come join us as we are the original and best program for delivering real viewers to your videos.
     
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    Everything you have said negative about Viewet has been changed. I have pretty much taken over everything by myself now and do nothing but dedicate my time to getting my users and customers the results and features they want/need. We have had multiple new updates in the last 3 weeks and we just implemented a secret viewing script which we hope counts close to 100% views now. Come give Viewet another chance, I promise you won't leave again.

    P.S. the referrer is no longer Optimizet and I plan to add 1-4 new domains to the rotation list every week.
     
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    That's exciting news MM. Thanks for the update (both here and for the program).

    Also, thanks dj - I'll definitely look you up on fiverr.
     
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    Once I do a little more testing and see the results, I will make a thread here telling all the changes and results of views. I also want to wait until I can post a URL so that I can link people to the website.
     
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    i used it before and i must say spk is one of the biggest douchebags i have ever come across on the net. since he apparently is no longer involved, i may give it another go. is the bug where it constantly deletes your browsing history as you use it fixed?
     
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    To me this is nothing more then pure "gold" advertising to your own program, even because you dont elaborate an fact, and even if you did, then, if we "others" will be dead/useless, yours will be too, and if you can make that, your software dont becomes usless, then we can make that happen too. it all depends on how dedicated the the developers are.
     
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    That wasn't a BUG and I told the developer to take that out in the last update but he rushed to get the new script released so I'm not sure if he got that yet. If not, I will be sure it is taken out in the next version. This was definitely a known annoyance by the users so I had told them all it would be taken out.

    If there's any other suggestions or problems you find, feel free to PM me, drop a line here or post something on the Viewet Forums.
     
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    I'm not even going to speak on this. Viewet will prove itself and you shall see. Goodluck.