Taxation is theft

So true

I agree in some cases tax money is a complete waste. This is true for any country even in the most developed countries you can see the government abusing the funds. This is mostly done by corrupt and opportunist politicians and their allies.

Tax money is wasted but good thing, that's not all your money.

But all these political chitchats waste your time which is only yours.

The choice is yours.

Waste your time in this BS or make good money and migrate to wherever the fhuck you want.

When you make enough money from IM you can go visit other countries and even migrate if you will. In your country average everyday people are becoming millionaires. Look around you and use your brain and be selfish for a while.

First have so much money then buy private islands. Then rule like a king there. You don't have to pay any taxes there but to buy that you have to pay taxes for getting purchasing money.

Freelancer_83 said:

First have so much money then buy private islands. Then rule like a king there. You don't have to pay any taxes there but to buy that you have to pay taxes for getting purchasing money.

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Private islands belong to the territory of a country, so you'd still have to pay taxes, unless it's one of the rare countries with 0% taxes like the UAE, but then you could just stay on the mainland. Sometimes, people buy an island and proclaim their own state, but the navy shuts them down quickly.

Songhort said:

Private islands belong to the territory of a country, so you'd still have to pay taxes, unless it's one of the rare countries with 0% taxes like the UAE, but then you could just stay on the mainland. Sometimes, people buy an island and proclaim their own state, but the navy shuts them down quickly.

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If you can get enough investors it could be possible to have an autonomous zone created, one already exists in Greece.

Songhort said:

Private islands belong to the territory of a country, so you'd still have to pay taxes, unless it's one of the rare countries with 0% taxes like the UAE, but then you could just stay on the mainland. Sometimes, people buy an island and proclaim their own state, but the navy shuts them down quickly.

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This just proves that we all play in someone else’s sandbox at some level. After securing your own private island you become a larger target and you need your own army to protect your island. Probably more feasible to try to become a dictator of an existing country or an "elected" official that owns most of the media that ensures election. You can do all that, but then you risk upsetting some other “superpower” if you don’t bend the knee to their interests. You came so far, you are so powerful, yet you are still not free. I guess you need to become a dictator of a superpower and even then you'll live in constant fear for your life or lives of your children after you are gone.


I think it will take space exploration and colonization to become a real thing before we get to taste again real freedom that is achievable to many. Only in the endlessness of uncontrollable space you can truly be free without the requirement of being top dog. As the world shrinks, so do our freedoms.

Just look at the internet. Same rules apply. As the control over internet strengthens and rules tighten, our freedoms to use it as we please diminish.

ExperimentalSEO said:

If you can get enough investors it could be possible to have an autonomous zone created, one already exists in Greece.

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Interesting. How is it called? I know some autonomous zones or freetowns, but they are usually run by hippies or communists and it just isn't worth the trouble for the governments of the contries where they are located to get rid of them. They are very few and small though, and I am certain that as soon as there's money to collect there, the cavalry waltzes in and seizes everything. Every attempt by somewhat wealthier individuals to form a freezone (be it on an island or elsewhere) was stopped by military as far as I know.

Take a look at living in Belize

I know very well how the economy works and I must say that tax collection is really theft. However, the state does not know how to work and does not know where to get the money. They only know how to steal and give nothing in return. This is how the whole world is built.

Songhort said:

Interesting. How is it called? I know some autonomous zones or freetowns, but they are usually run by hippies or communists and it just isn't worth the trouble for the governments of the contries where they are located to get rid of them. They are very few and small though, and I am certain that as soon as there's money to collect there, the cavalry waltzes in and seizes everything. Every attempt by somewhat wealthier individuals to form a freezone (be it on an island or elsewhere) was stopped by military as far as I know.

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Mount Athos, the owners provide nothing to Greece and in fact are causing them problems due to their policy of banning women.

ExperimentalSEO said:

Mount Athos, the owners provide nothing to Greece and in fact are causing them problems due to their policy of banning women.

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Ah yes, those monks. I've read about them. Well, this is a special case though because the community is hundreds of years old and based on religion. I guess if you and I go and try to run our businesses from there, they'd give us the boot.

Songhort said:

Ah yes, those monks. I've read about them. Well, this is a special case though because the community is hundreds of years old and based on religion. I guess if you and I go and try to run our businesses from there, they'd give us the boot.

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Time to turn your secular business into a religious organization. Reap all the tax benefits and other exemptions, well at least until the “less tolerant” crowd takes over the country and make some adjustments.

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