1. This website uses cookies to improve service and provide a tailored user experience. By using this site, you agree to this use. See our Cookie Policy.
    Dismiss Notice

Sudden Ranked Drop? Google Algo Update?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by wawangjan, Dec 18, 2019.

  1. Jules59

    Jules59 Newbie

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2020
    Messages:
    18
    Likes Received:
    6
    Gender:
    Male
    Yes, buzz on tech magazines
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  2. attacheds

    attacheds Junior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2018
    Messages:
    140
    Likes Received:
    12
    Gender:
    Male
    cant wait for what they gonna say this year :|
    I didnt notice that last year tho, so what happened to the lost index? are they recovered?
     
  3. jyciap11

    jyciap11 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2014
    Messages:
    497
    Likes Received:
    41
    So, if this is a bug, why this time they don't tell "Hey guys, wait it's only a bug, we are fixing it"? :/
     
  4. Mr.Wallet

    Mr.Wallet Registered Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2018
    Messages:
    51
    Likes Received:
    31
    i experience the same issue 4 of my site loss 90% traffic and some page get deindexed. I tried to add in more content and change the site external links for google to reindex my site
     
  5. Jules59

    Jules59 Newbie

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2020
    Messages:
    18
    Likes Received:
    6
    Gender:
    Male
    Because actually they don’t know yet, they’re investigating...
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 2
  6. aw5

    aw5 Newbie

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2020
    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    1
    I'm outside of USA most of the time but site is hosted there and targets mostly Americans (English).

    My largest competitor is actually selling gambling links from his site (and anything else he can). But it has history and trust, so I guess Google prefers that right now.

    Same. I have some spam/bot links but have tried to do this site by the book. Be patient, I'm sure this will pay off in the long run.

    I think this could be the case. My site loads in under 1.5 seconds. WEBP images, minified everything, as fast as possible. This still feels to be a loading and rendering issue - I think Googlebot-Mobile is having trouble crawling our "complex" sites and that old HTML Times New Roman site from the 2000's is very easy for it to render.
     
  7. fheaky

    fheaky Power Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2010
    Messages:
    576
    Likes Received:
    218
    I feel you man, I used to make blackhat sites and when they got penalized I understood why; of course I was sad about it, but they deserved it.

    This time I wanted to build something quality and long term that provides value to my visitors and then this shit happens. It's just so fucking demotivating, I spent hundreds of hours working on this website and then it's just gone with no word from Google about what's going on.
     
  8. Florian67X

    Florian67X Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2020
    Messages:
    85
    Likes Received:
    29
    Gender:
    Male
    "It's just so fucking demotivating, I spent hundreds of hours working on this website and then it's just gone with no word from Google about what's going on." yes....SO demotivating.
     
  9. Offi18

    Offi18 Newbie

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2019
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    1
    Gender:
    Male
    I don´t think it is a penalty. And "how we see the site now" is also BS. The site of ours that got hit has 2 other languages versions on different domains, HRFELang connected and for the user via a country picker. Those other two domains are doing the opposite = Sitemap gets crawled, mobile results and overall sites listed grow (same as traffic). And one of those is also the X-default. Everything is build on the same code, template etc. etc. only the language of the content is different per domain. Topic is same popularity in any of the 3 countries.
     
  10. aw5

    aw5 Newbie

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2020
    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    1
    Are there any similarities on our sites? Everyone who has been hit by January 7, are these all Wordpress sites (mine is).
     
  11. mondoinweb

    mondoinweb Newbie

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2020
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    1
    Gender:
    Male
    my site is not wordpress
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  12. N1mrod

    N1mrod Registered Member

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2014
    Messages:
    86
    Likes Received:
    21
    I have the same issue, my sites are similar but written in various languages. Only Spanish one didn't get hit and I don't have any clue why.

    PS. And on this Spanish site, all pages are indexed, there are no errors.
     
  13. Offi18

    Offi18 Newbie

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2019
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    1
    Gender:
    Male
    Yeah, it is just re-evaluated. It is how we see these sites now :D
     
  14. Adripropga

    Adripropga Newbie

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2020
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    A lot of sites with affiliate Links were killed. Mine too.
    I think that is trully wanted by google. The bot probably looked for affiliate Links in pages and penalized the entire site even If links are nofollow.

    The remaining question is : why websites without affiliation have been hit ? Is there any ?
     
  15. jyciap11

    jyciap11 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2014
    Messages:
    497
    Likes Received:
    41
    Nope, I don't think. I have similar websites in different languages, two improved a lot their traffic, others got hit drstically and de-index. All with affiliate no follow link. It is all random, no common points!
     
  16. Shopllc

    Shopllc Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2017
    Messages:
    282
    Likes Received:
    55
    Gender:
    Female
    Are all websites hit in non-English languages?
     
  17. fheaky

    fheaky Power Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2010
    Messages:
    576
    Likes Received:
    218
    Mine is in English.

    Mine is too.
     
  18. jyciap11

    jyciap11 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2014
    Messages:
    497
    Likes Received:
    41
    I haven’t any english websites. Only hosting is in US
     
  19. nakamura

    nakamura Elite Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2013
    Messages:
    2,608
    Likes Received:
    2,143
    Gender:
    Male
    Its really beyond how they can have no clue whats going on. He could just ask or check what happened on 17th December and on 7th January. Is it so difficult? He could just ask: Did we make any changes on these dates? Or how did the algo behave? How did the crawler behave?

    They must have all the data....and Google keeps their mouth shut. So many of my websites lost their rankings and only 20% or less pages of them are in the index. No manual penalty! Why?
     
  20. Florian67X

    Florian67X Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2020
    Messages:
    85
    Likes Received:
    29
    Gender:
    Male
    My sites are all on Wordpress, French.
    They all have affiliation and nofollow, but it's discreet, not intrusive and it does not make the user's experience worse.
    They are all white hat.
    Some fell on 16th of Dec (5 of them)
    One fell on 11th of January (not on 7th compared to most of you). Also, this last site is the youngest one, only 14 weeks old, high-quality unique content really written for the user.

    Here are all the infos I can give you to help find similarities...