Starting from 0 in 2019. Too late?

it's never too late
start now or never

One day someone will look back and think, "Those that started in Feb 2019 are so lucky, it's so much harder now".

The best time to start was 5 years ago, the 2nd best time to start is now
-Chinese Proverb

I know it seems like a lot. A year and a half ago, I was in your position.

Your first step is to pick what method.

If you are looking for something long term, you may want to look into affiliate marketing or dropshipping. The point is, pick something and stop wandering around the internet.

I personally think BHW is for people that have already started and have detailed questions, I would start your research on Youtube and then as you get started and need more specific more advanced questions, that is what BHW is for.

The biggest advice I can give you is start taking action.

Everyone at one point or another in their life wants to start a business or make money online. Only the few that actually get home from a 9-5 open up their computer and work till midnight are the ones that change their lives.

Pick a method, go to Youtube and get started, NOW.

Raunakdope said:

That's called hustle bro hope you are able to do well for yourself and your daughter

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Yeah we are fine. Mornings are most creative for me. Long time I've tried to work after work but my brain was exausted and I was not productive at all. Just never loose hope and choose a system/method with which you can learn skill(s) and you are happy doing it.

Pounder89 said:

Hey guys! Sorry fo the long post, I don't want to waste your time so just jump to questions line if you don't feel like reading.

I'm Andi, 30 years old, with a 9-5 job, not a bad one, but because of poor life choices thinks are almost reaching rock bottom on all levels, especially money. To get an idea, around 800$ salary, with 450$ monthly debt. I've been a forum member since years, but only read it from time to time without taking action - big mistake.

I would like to thank everybody that take the time to post methods, answer questions and to all the contibuitors to this forum: THANKS!

Also a big thanks to the ones that are still learning and asking some very basic questions - from a beginners/noob point of view that is bringing a lof of value. Why? Because what seams so easy and a no brainer for the ones that do it for a long time, it looks like running a marathon in the dark for the ones that just start in this journey.

The amount of info/methods is amazing, but overwhelming for somebody just starting this online making money journey.
I'm getting the feeling that I land to late on each and every method, I get stuck in details, I have to little knowledge on everything related to IM, I jump from idea to idea, I can't decide with what to start because budget is an issue si I end up reading a lot of methods, success stories and get frustrated and so on.

I'm guessing that a lot of people who earn 3/4 figures a day, did not start the journey just recent, but more likely at least 3-4-5 years back, when it was easier to earn.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't things much harder now then when you started earning? Especially for somebody with clkse to 0 knowledge..

How many of you, starting today, 3 Feb 2019, with the personal resources(knowledge, budget, time
) that you had at the time you started and with the competition from today woukd be successful? Your answers will help me a lot, not on the bussines side, but on mindset.

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1 - is it unrealistic, or too late or hard for somebody with a almost no experience, tight budget and time to start earning a side income in 2019?

2 - what would be a good way to start in this conditions? I am reading a lot about dropshipping and it seams a good ideea to start, but the fact that PayPal could hold your founds and some legal questions that I could not find answers for are holding me back. Also, is AliExpress relaible? Would dropshipping digital items would be better? Any suggestions is higly appreciated!

3 - is retail arbitrage using amazon a good ideea considering I live in Europe? All the business would be done online.. finding offers online, buying and shipping directly to Amazon(not sure how to do this, still learning)

4 - CPA - I know you need money you make money with CPA but are there some methods that still work in 2019 without a lot of investment? I have a Peerfly account if that helps..

There are still a lot of wuestique spinning in my head and the worst is that I have no clue with what to start.. a lot of ideas are appealing but I feel I am too late on the train and don't know where to start..

Any idea/suggestion/help/criticism would be grestly appreciated! Thanks in advance and also thanks for all the things you share with the bhw community!

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Hi! I can see what's happening to you, as it happened to me many times as well. I know that all the information here can results in "a little bit too much of information" sometimes. I would start from one thing: in order to make your project works you need basically two things: resources (money and/or time, being the first a powerful accelerator for each project) and be passionate about what you're doing (especially if this is your first time), otherwise it will be easy to give up too soon.

So, based on that I would pick ONE project that you fee passionate about it, focused on the ideas/methods you can find here or elsewhere, study your own plan and set some realistic goals in terms not of money but of dedication (like, working on the project 2 hours a day from Monday to Friday, or whatever works for you). Stick to the plan, forget about the money at the beginning and be focused.

You may not see big or even any result at the beginning (again, resources here are important, so if you can at least invest some money it will greatly help your project grow faster), but with time, if you're consistent, you may find that a big part of having success on IM is dedication, patience and been open to learn from mistakes and adjust your strategy.

I don't know your background, but some methods are requires more technical knowledge than others, other again they require a bit of initial investment, other can be started with little to zero money involved in the process.

So, again, my advice is take your time to pick ONE project to start with study about the subject as much as you can and then TAKE ACTIONS and be consistent. Everyone can make it, you just need to start from somewhere and be more focused.

N0V4 said:

How would you make $25 from one article? I go to the content righting section and people are charging around $7/1000 words

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I got many question regarding my reply. You are building a business, you prove your efficiency and people will fight over you.. then, you can set your price. Try to buy an article from 7$/1000 word .. It's PBN quality at best case.

Problem isn't the IM gotten harder, it's the people who got softer. They want results before even beginning. Guess what .. It won't happen !

My reply isn't specifically for N0V4, its for the OP and every one come asking about hard IM has gotten.

Wooten said:

@Pounder89 , I'm curious, where are you from? A wild guess would be some eastern European country?

In any case, I can relate to your story, being around same age, made some huge mistakes in my early 20s that I'm still affected by in my very late 20s. Had to start everything all over again and still doing so.

That said, I believe it's never too late to start. But you have weigh your expectations. Consider that most likely you won't make anything substantial from IM for 6-12 months. Now ask yourself - can you dedicate next 6-12 month of your free time to build something online without expecting any money? Create something for the sole purpose of providing value to your audience?

If you can do that, invest some cash into hosting and domain name, maybe some cheaper kw research tools ( optional ). Pick a niche that you would be interested in learning thoroughly and research the fuck out of it. Then begin writing content that gives value and churn as much high quality, long form content as you can ( think somewhere quality articles ). Do a keyword research beforehand, pick low comp, find products that you can review in the niche and can promote.

For traffic go to niche related forums, question sites, blog comments,reddit etc.

Do that for the next 6-12 months daily and I'm pretty sure you will replace your 9-5 income while also building an asset that you can sell.

I know you'll say you suck at writing or you are not passionate about anything, but to be fair, you can learn to write by actually writing. You might not become the next Shakespeare, but you can get good enough to provide comprehensible, engaging and valuable content to your audience.

As for being passionate, no need to be. Find something that you want to research and deepen your knowledge. It's like you do a research in college and write a paper on it in your own words, only not as formal. Just make sure the niche is profitable enough.

This above is timeless as long you are not chasing money only and give value. Your audience needs to trust you before they trust your recommendations.

I also do this. And I suck at writing and everything is difficult tbh, but I do this with a thought that 1-2 years later it will be worth it. Because If I don't 2 years later I will be regretting I didn't start at all.

But don't just chase the methods, pick something that you can sustain long term.

Hope that helps.

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Thanks for the time you took to reply and for the suggestions, I really appreciate it. You guessed it right, actually I'm from Romania I read what you've said at least 4 time and I though it through. You are right, I should invest time in something I can sustain long term, because it will help in the future. And I'm committed to that and I'm willing to do it so I can enjoy it later. But I would also like to earn something now, also for morale boost and to help with the expenses because I have like a mental blockage if I don't have any money to rely on for any emergency..
ON TOPIC - I recently bough a domain and started a shopify store, but didn't get any products on the store because of the Chinese New Year and the long delivery times resulting from it. I'm trying to do a research on what type of products to have on my store and how to get traffic to it because Facebook ads are a solution because they are expensive and I don't have experience with them. Will probably try instagram influenceres.

Stavro said:

Being in a small town only means you have less competition. Rural business owners tend to want face-to-face meetings, which the city-based and foreign agencies just can't provide.

Being local, you'll be able to reach the smaller shops that have zero public presence whatsoever, and haven't been inundated with spam. A few of my clients don't even have a phone line, or electricity, so there's virtually zero chance of a competitor coming in to offer a better price.


Create your own portfolio pieces based on fictional companies. Nobody cares if 'riverland bakery' isn't a real company, the focus should be on the quality of your work.

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We honestly have like 8 pubs/restaurants in total. And some where events like weddings are held.. but everybody in the town knows about them, it's nothing I can bring more to the table. Or probably there is but I don't have the right angle to view it. There are also some shops with cheap shoes, clothes where people who don't afford clothes from the mall go to shop.. nothing to do there also. But I'll really think if I can do something for some of them. Thanks for the tips!

jonasnarvas said:

I am 36 and still trying.
Already got some good results in dropshipping

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I have some questions regarding this.. do you dropship from aliexpress? also do you use shopify? how do you send traffic to your shop? I assume it's through ads.. then what is your daily budget? Thanks

RedwolfAj said:

it's never too late, you can start your journey anytime you want. you will not get success in your first try most of the time.
Dropshipping,selling on amazon,CPA,seo,or freelancing, you will have to try these yourself and find which one work best for you.
As you said your budget is tight, you can start with freelancing,you don't need to spend much but need work on your skills.
If freelancing doesn't work, you can move on to next method.

Best of luck.

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I think dropshipping would work for me.. but I'm stuck in picking a product. I won't try freelancing because of the little experience I have and I don't like to promise results or get people hopes high and after that deliver a product/content that is bad. CPA is something I would also like to try.. maybe combine CPA with dorpshipping somehow.. Good luck and thanks!

onyok said:

bro thats part of the game. frustration, sometimes you get lost, well most of times and you cant get things done. I started just this january but joined the forum 4 months ago i think, and started my own agency, even if i dont know everything yet i just want to start. And oh all the courses and methods i learned were from here, i took advantage of the courses shared and downloaded posted on mega. now I got 1 client, not premium but atleast Im earning now and my website is up! so no its never to late bro!

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Congrats on starting the agency and your first client! Hope you'll get so many that you have to outsource your services

Roboxit said:

keep GRINDING bro WORK HARD. SACRIFICE and put in the TIME.

1) Create a WEBSITE
2) hire a WRITER or WRITE your own content on the service you are selling
3) you can RESELL other people's service on here. For example SEO.
4) you live in a small town, pick up your phone. RESEARCH ONLINE and talk to BUSINESS OWNERS and get to KNOW THEM FIRST. DON'T SELL TO THEM RIGHT AWAY. (start with small business to start)
5) You can find many clients by just picking up a NEWSPAPER. Some People still advertise on there.
5) "I can help you with getting your business on the first page of Google, you won't need to spend another penny on advertisement. "
6) Work is done. They think your a MAGICIAN and then they REFER YOU.
7) You made money to INVEST on your own SEO.
8) PEOPLE start finding you on GOOGLE.
9) Even though its just reselling SERVICES you can't do it ALONE. Time To HIRE.
10) You have an office and you are working FULL TIME. BYE BYE FULL TIME JOB!

I don't know why I was complicating it at first. So far I am in step 5, but i will get there BABY.

TRUTH is NO ONE is going to come up to you and tell you they need help with this or that. YOU have to step up and ASK.

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Nicely laid out bro, thanks! I know the type of people, owners in my town and because it's a small town almost everybody knows all the businesses. Another thing is that people don't rely on online marketing.. Now as I'm writing it down I'm thinking I might be wrong on some level.. will think about it because it doesn't hurt to give it a try

Regarding pont 3) I have a question.. how can you resell other people services? for example SEO? I was reading something about while label services, but did't fully understand it.

jonsnow2019 said:

It can be late for certain methods but that is irrelevant because new methods appear all the time. Why would you think about stuff that doesn't work anymore?

1.Pick 10 different successful methods from this forum, filter them by your skills, budget, time and other factors until you find the best one for you.

2.Start a journey thread and try to focus on your method without getting distracted by other methods (it's challenging but you have no choice).

3.Focus on goals and don't think too much about stuff like paypal holding your balance, just see what others did to prevent it and you'll do fine.

Good luck!

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Yeah.. I already started doing this on some level.. bough a domain and a shopify plan to start dropshipping.
Will also try print on demand business on etsy maybe. CPA is something that I always wanted to do but it demands a big budget I suppose. I would also like affiliate marketing but not sure where to start because there is a lot of competition.. but as you said, I'll do a list with methods and do an analyze on it based on budget/time/skills.

LucaBrazi said:

It's never too late. Just stick to something and work on it like there's no plan B. Write down your goals and check them every few days. And remember be persistent. That is the key. You can work 1-2 hrs a day but do it every day. I woke up every morning at 5:30-6AM and work until my daughter wakes up and then I go to my 9-5 job.

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Thanks and good luck!

Raunakdope said:

Making money online is still easy dude. You only need to brush your designing skills.

My website gets around 2000 visitors per day but the traffic never converted. So I started designing banner ads on my own around CPA offers. And then money started to really roll in.

Never loose hope. Its not too late you just have to be really creative, and give you traffic something which they have never seen before.

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Not sure I understood correctly.. you have a site that had visitors but did not convert in any way. So you added CPA offers with your own created banners on your site and then it started to convert?

Guybrushthepirate said:

Hi! I can see what's happening to you, as it happened to me many times as well. I know that all the information here can results in "a little bit too much of information" sometimes. I would start from one thing: in order to make your project works you need basically two things: resources (money and/or time, being the first a powerful accelerator for each project) and be passionate about what you're doing (especially if this is your first time), otherwise it will be easy to give up too soon.

So, based on that I would pick ONE project that you fee passionate about it, focused on the ideas/methods you can find here or elsewhere, study your own plan and set some realistic goals in terms not of money but of dedication (like, working on the project 2 hours a day from Monday to Friday, or whatever works for you). Stick to the plan, forget about the money at the beginning and be focused.

You may not see big or even any result at the beginning (again, resources here are important, so if you can at least invest some money it will greatly help your project grow faster), but with time, if you're consistent, you may find that a big part of having success on IM is dedication, patience and been open to learn from mistakes and adjust your strategy.

I don't know your background, but some methods are requires more technical knowledge than others, other again they require a bit of initial investment, other can be started with little to zero money involved in the process.

So, again, my advice is take your time to pick ONE project to start with study about the subject as much as you can and then TAKE ACTIONS and be consistent. Everyone can make it, you just need to start from somewhere and be more focused.

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Being consistent is one of my biggest flaws.. I'm very random let's put it like that. And I don't set myself goals, I just go with the flow and of course I don't get results so I end up spinning in circles. I'm writing down the advises and will do take action based on what I get from combining all of them. Thanks!

KHer0 said:

I got many question regarding my reply. You are building a business, you prove your efficiency and people will fight over you.. then, you can set your price. Try to buy an article from 7$/1000 word .. It's PBN quality at best case.

Problem isn't the IM gotten harder, it's the people who got softer. They want results before even beginning. Guess what .. It won't happen !

My reply isn't specifically for N0V4, its for the OP and every one come asking about hard IM has gotten.

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I don't completely agree that people got softer, but you have a solid point. Quality work cost more, but on the other side, how may chose quality over quantity if it still brings is money? Nevertheless thanks!

Pounder89 said:

We honestly have like 8 pubs/restaurants in total. And some where events like weddings are held.. but everybody in the town knows about them, it's nothing I can bring more to the table.

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"Everybody" is a very very big number. Does everybody know every restaurant's menu? Does everybody know who is playing every weekend at every pub?

Even beyond the typical storefronts, I'm sure there's some industrial companies around too, and they need advertising as well. If it's a manufacturer, give them a storefront. If it's a construction company, add a contact form to get quotes.

There are almost no small businesses using the full extent of their marketing potential, all you need to do is show them how many more people are out there that you could reach.

Have a look at some GaryVee's videos. He gets a lot of people like you asking if it's too late to start something with 30 years. You're still very young,you have time. Just put in some hard work and I'm sure you will succeed in your goals. I wish you best of luck!

Pounder89 said:

Nicely laid out bro, thanks! I know the type of people, owners in my town and because it's a small town almost everybody knows all the businesses. Another thing is that people don't rely on online marketing.. Now as I'm writing it down I'm thinking I might be wrong on some level.. will think about it because it doesn't hurt to give it a try

Regarding pont 3) I have a question.. how can you resell other people services? for example SEO? I was reading something about while label services, but did't fully understand it.

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No problem bro. Simple, you just tell them you can help with SEO. You pay someone 300 a month for the service and charge them $1000 per month for SEO.

KHer0 said:

I got many question regarding my reply. You are building a business, you prove your efficiency and people will fight over you.. then, you can set your price. Try to buy an article from 7$/1000 word .. It's PBN quality at best case.

Problem isn't the IM gotten harder, it's the people who got softer. They want results before even beginning. Guess what .. It won't happen !

My reply isn't specifically for N0V4, its for the OP and every one come asking about hard IM has gotten.

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I'm not complaining about how hard it is, just wondering if $7/1000 was the average rate for a well-written article. I'm still pretty new around here so I have no idea what the rates are. Thanks.

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I'm not complaining about how hard it is, just wondering if $7/1000 was the average rate for a well-written article. I'm still pretty new around here so I have no idea what the rates are. Thanks.

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Okay, let me explain my reply further.

IM isn't a method to generate money. It's simply a business. In real business you can get an architect who charge 6 figures/project .. other who charge 3 figures. What is the difference ? It's how he built his business, good at what he is doing, his relationship and branding...etc

So, I have paid $1 and $2/article, and I have paid $20 and $25/other articles. So, what I gave up was a simple example. To build any business around any business it's the same steps :-
1 - find something you are good at
2 - Offer it for cheap
3 - Do it good and build relationship
4 - Use customer satisfaction to set higher price
5 - Rinse and repeat

Another point, when I said $25/article I didn't mention how many words. And you can definitely write more than 2000 words/day!

Hope this answers your question

Just thought i'd mention that if you need a good way to earn start up money or even a full income online right away, definitely consider doing transcription work online at rev.com. I used to do that kind of work and it was a huge help when I discovered it. It helped me out big time with paying bills, getting together startup funds, etc. The good thing about it is that there's no persuading anyone to buy, no waiting months to be ranked or anything like that, you just do as much work as you can handle and get paid, simple.

karma05 said:

Just thought i'd mention that if you need a good way to earn start up money or even a full income online right away, definitely consider doing transcription work online at rev.com. I used to do that kind of work and it was a huge help when I discovered it. It helped me out big time with paying bills, getting together startup funds, etc. The good thing about it is that there's no persuading anyone to buy, no waiting months to be ranked or anything like that, you just do as much work as you can handle and get paid, simple.

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Curious, how much did you make per month with them with how much work per day? Average earnings aren't that high, at least from what they claim on their website.

It is never too late to start. Believe you can and you are half way there.

Hey bro ! i will tell you two things ! the first one is about my religion ! if you already know ! muhamed " our prophet " he got the message from allah " god " when he was 43 years old ! and he did his best untill his 60 years ! so it's not too late as you're saying ! i would say that you got all your time to start ! and it's NOW !!
do your best man
the second thing is about me ! i just started man ! yesterday i made my whole plan ! so it's not too late bro !
all you have to do now ! is to think about what you can do to earn money online ! and what you can learn to earn
Good luck !

No. It's never to late. The details might change over time, but not the opportunities. Just hang in there.