Zoomer3690
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Seems something unique. Gonna subscribe 
Thanks guys... I also hope it works as expected. I might be new here, but I quit my 9-5 job already 2004. So for 9 years I somehow managed to survive in the big internet jungle, but what pisses me off is I only "survive" and don't LIVE!
I don't have a fancy car or big house, somehow my average earning is what I would get in a normal job as well. Most earnings come from one quiet big page which is 80% monetized by big G. But this one stuck, I can't squeeze more out of it anymore and if I want to earn more I need to find new ways... I tried the last months several methods, but none worked so far. I did cookie stuf... (Don't ask for details), premium account selling on ebay for one click hoster, gift card selling for travel agency's on ebay, I do some filesharing on different boards which provide a few extra bucks per month and currently I also run a youtube channel where I use a method I read here about to monetize my videos. But this is more long term and of no importance right now. I also do web develpment on freelancer but I'm kinda lazy working for others, especially when their requirements always change while the money is never worth the effort. I had it on freelancer, that I worked 3 days, each 10 hours for some **** while I got only $80 for the whole project. I still do freelancer but only when I have nothing else to do and I am in real good mood, cause you need it...
I don't have a fancy car or big house, somehow my average earning is what I would get in a normal job as well. Most earnings come from one quiet big page which is 80% monetized by big G. But this one stuck, I can't squeeze more out of it anymore and if I want to earn more I need to find new ways... I tried the last months several methods, but none worked so far. I did cookie stuf... (Don't ask for details
), premium account selling on ebay for one click hoster, gift card selling for travel agency's on ebay, I do some filesharing on different boards which provide a few extra bucks per month and currently I also run a youtube channel where I use a method I read here about to monetize my videos. But this is more long term and of no importance right now. I also do web develpment on freelancer but I'm kinda lazy working for others, especially when their requirements always change while the money is never worth the effort. I had it on freelancer, that I worked 3 days, each 10 hours for some **** while I got only $80 for the whole project. I still do freelancer but only when I have nothing else to do and I am in real good mood, cause you need it...Zoomer3690
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9 years is a long time to be in the IM world man. I am sure you must have gained a lot of experience in all these years. Would like to share some to newbies like me lol ?
Thanks guys... I also hope it works as expected. I might be new here, but I quit my 9-5 job already 2004. So for 9 years I somehow managed to survive in the big internet jungle, but what pisses me off is I only "survive" and don't LIVE!
I don't have a fancy car or big house, somehow my average earning is what I would get in a normal job as well. Most earnings come from one quiet big page which is 80% monetized by big G. But this one stuck, I can't squeeze more out of it anymore and if I want to earn more I need to find new ways... I tried the last months several methods, but none worked so far. I did cookie stuf... (Don't ask for details
auxiliarus
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- Aug 4, 2013
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Well, I know my stuff, but I wouldn't call myself a guru or whatever. For example I am more a coder and designer, than a real IM'ler... I have for example no clue about SEO... I know the basics, but 90% of all people here know more about it... My only advantage is that I am able to create pages away from any cms like wp or joomla, so I have in this directions more freedom.
My first contact with web development was with xxx... Mostly image galleries and promoted with different link exchange programs, linklists, toplists, etc... Everyting very oldschool and pre-google. But it worked and it was fun.
After that I started what would become my biggest success even till now. First of all I had a channel on a video website similiar to youtube, in my country actually even more famous during that time. On this channel I uploaded some videos regarding a specific kind of media and those videos became quite viral. So I created a page which allowed to watch them as stream and via download and it was the first one of its kind during that time. It become very quick very popular. Second result on google after wikipedia for the main keyword. Pagerank 5, about 100k uniques per day and adsense loved it... The best part is, that this page was never intendent to became a money machine, I did it only for fun and also promoting was more of a sideeffect because of my good visited channel. So it was a great time, but there was one problem... Not entirely legal, so Big G had to drop the support after 2 years great partnership and to many abuse reports. But I did even receive a personal message from a google worker, in which he apologized and I even received my last payment and also the account was never canceled, in fact I am still using it today... But after that, it went only downhill and no other advertiser could compensate for adsense. So I gave the main page to a friend for administration and focused on monitizing around it which I still do today. But I want to have some more options available than that. In fact I've been lucky with this kind of success and repeating it was impossible. Also the amount of visitors droped to maybe 25k a day, still good, but the competion became stronger. I had month earnings as good as 10.000 € and also as bad as 100 €... In all i simply managed to survive and need now this one idea that brings me back on track...
I am sure there are some other oldschool people here on this board with similiar experiences.
I'm so long in this game already, somethimes I just want a 9-5 job and get it over with, but than again, I love the web and I am addicted to it. I can pay my rent, my food and everything else with my hands on my keyboard which is something not everyone can do and this is something all of you should not forget, you pay your life, thinking outside the box, while sitting in front of your computer which is actually amazing and not many people are able to do... I mean on this board we are all the same, but out in the real world, the normal people can only get to work in the morning because they know it no better, they have no other option, but we do. While their earnings are limited to their contract, ours can be as small as $1, but as big as $1 mio, or even limitless... Only our imagination is our limit.
Well... enough offtopic, sometimes i start writing and catch myself unable to stop, lol...
Good luck all of you!
My first contact with web development was with xxx... Mostly image galleries and promoted with different link exchange programs, linklists, toplists, etc... Everyting very oldschool and pre-google. But it worked and it was fun.
After that I started what would become my biggest success even till now. First of all I had a channel on a video website similiar to youtube, in my country actually even more famous during that time. On this channel I uploaded some videos regarding a specific kind of media and those videos became quite viral. So I created a page which allowed to watch them as stream and via download and it was the first one of its kind during that time. It become very quick very popular. Second result on google after wikipedia for the main keyword. Pagerank 5, about 100k uniques per day and adsense loved it... The best part is, that this page was never intendent to became a money machine, I did it only for fun and also promoting was more of a sideeffect because of my good visited channel. So it was a great time, but there was one problem... Not entirely legal, so Big G had to drop the support after 2 years great partnership and to many abuse reports. But I did even receive a personal message from a google worker, in which he apologized and I even received my last payment and also the account was never canceled, in fact I am still using it today... But after that, it went only downhill and no other advertiser could compensate for adsense. So I gave the main page to a friend for administration and focused on monitizing around it which I still do today. But I want to have some more options available than that. In fact I've been lucky with this kind of success and repeating it was impossible. Also the amount of visitors droped to maybe 25k a day, still good, but the competion became stronger. I had month earnings as good as 10.000 € and also as bad as 100 €... In all i simply managed to survive and need now this one idea that brings me back on track...
I am sure there are some other oldschool people here on this board with similiar experiences.
I'm so long in this game already, somethimes I just want a 9-5 job and get it over with, but than again, I love the web and I am addicted to it. I can pay my rent, my food and everything else with my hands on my keyboard which is something not everyone can do and this is something all of you should not forget, you pay your life, thinking outside the box, while sitting in front of your computer which is actually amazing and not many people are able to do... I mean on this board we are all the same, but out in the real world, the normal people can only get to work in the morning because they know it no better, they have no other option, but we do. While their earnings are limited to their contract, ours can be as small as $1, but as big as $1 mio, or even limitless... Only our imagination is our limit.
Well... enough offtopic, sometimes i start writing and catch myself unable to stop, lol...
Good luck all of you!
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Zoomer3690
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- Jun 20, 2013
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I read it all. Without losing any interest or getting bored.
It seems cool enough.
BTW, I have kinda exactly opposite skills as that of yours. I am a very poor designer and a even worse coder lol. I can do some SEO stuff though. I can do a considerable amount of SMO stuff as well. But as you see, there is no use trying something big as it requires a combination of all these skills, and I lack some of them lol
Thanks anyway, too kind of you for taking the time to post your experience here
It seems cool enough.
BTW, I have kinda exactly opposite skills as that of yours. I am a very poor designer and a even worse coder lol. I can do some SEO stuff though. I can do a considerable amount of SMO stuff as well. But as you see, there is no use trying something big as it requires a combination of all these skills, and I lack some of them lol
Thanks anyway, too kind of you for taking the time to post your experience here
Well, I know my stuff, but I wouldn't call myself a guru or whatever. For example I am more a coder and designer, than a real IM'ler... I have for example no clue about SEO... I know the basics, but 90% of all people here know more about it... My only advantage is that I am able to create pages away from any cms like wp or joomla, so I have in this directions more freedom.
My first contact with web development was with xxx... Mostly image galleries and promoted with different link exchange programs, linklists, toplists, etc... Everyting very oldschool and pre-google. But it worked and it was fun.
After that I started what would become my biggest success even till now. First of all I had a channel on a video website similiar to youtube, in my country actually even more famous during that time. On this channel I uploaded some videos regarding a specific kind of media and those videos became quite viral. So I created a page which allowed to watch them as stream and via download and it was the first one of its kind during that time. It become very quick very popular. Second result on google after wikipedia for the main keyword. Pagerank 5, about 100k uniques per day and adsense loved it... The best part is, that this page was never intendent to became a money machine, I did it only for fun and also promoting was more of a sideeffect because of my good visited channel. So it was a great time, but there was one problem... Not entirely legal, so Big G had to drop the support after 2 years great partnership and to many abuse reports. But I did even receive a personal message from a google worker, in which he apologized and I even received my last payment and also the account was never canceled, in fact I am still using it today... But after that, it went only downhill and no other advertiser could compensate for adsense. So I gave the main page to a friend for administration and focused on monitizing around it which I still do today. But I want to have some more options available than that. In fact I've been lucky with this kind of success and repeating it was impossible. Also the amount of visitors droped to maybe 25k a day, still good, but the competion became stronger. I had month earnings as good as 10.000 € and also as bad as 100 €... In all i simply managed to survive and need now this one idea that brings me back on track...
I am sure there are some other oldschool people here on this board with similiar experiences.
I'm so long in this game already, somethimes I just want a 9-5 job and get it over with, but than again, I love the web and I am addicted to it. I can pay my rent, my food and everything else with my hands on my keyboard which is something not everyone can do and this is something all of you should not forget, you pay your life, thinking outside the box, while sitting in front of your computer which is actually amazing and not many people are able to do... I mean on this board we are all the same, but out in the real world, the normal people can only get to work in the morning because they know it no better, they have no other option, but we do. While their earnings are limited to their contract, ours can be as small as $1, but as big as $1 mio, or even limitless... Only our imagination is our limit.
Well... enough offtopic, sometimes i start writing and catch myself unable to stop, lol...
Good luck all of you!
TalP123
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- Feb 23, 2013
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hey man
just read your thread looks nice but there is a problem
its really bad idea to use paid traffic like this with cpa.
most of the time it fails because there is a normal 5~15% of clicks on the cpa only (not impressions) will do the survey
so most of the chances that you wont profit from it
i have a journey too and i use free traffic only (like facebook) you can post there 24/7 on pages\groups
and that acually works.
good luck with your journey
just read your thread
looks nice but there is a problemits really bad idea to use paid traffic like this with cpa.
most of the time it fails because there is a normal 5~15% of clicks on the cpa only (not impressions) will do the survey
so most of the chances that you wont profit from it
i have a journey too and i use free traffic only (like facebook) you can post there 24/7 on pages\groups
and that acually works.
good luck with your journey
seosoldier
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- Jan 7, 2012
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Nice share.. Gotta keep your work going.
Yeah, actually I know that paid traffic is never the solution, but I had this idea for a long time in my head and finally wanted to try out at least once. As I said, it could fail. What I need would be a 2% CTR and among this 2% clicks only 2% conversion rate and I'm set. Btw. what I offer is no scam and also no survey stuff, it is something with a real value for the user if he like it, free of charge for him and he only need to register, thats all... Just imagine someone would give you 1 buck for each user you send to BHW... The value someone get here is great if you target the right people. Thats actually the problem, I have a CPA with a great value, but only for a specific group of people. Would run great with adwords as you can pinpoint your targets, but not good enough to earn more as adwords cost you...
hey man
just read your thread
its really bad idea to use paid traffic like this with cpa.
most of the time it fails because there is a normal 5~15% of clicks on the cpa only (not impressions) will do the survey
so most of the chances that you wont profit from it
i have a journey too and i use free traffic only (like facebook) you can post there 24/7 on pages\groups
and that acually works.
good luck with your journey
Zoomer3690
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- Jun 20, 2013
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Don't you do any video stuff? Send the traffic directly to the LP?
hey man
just read your thread
its really bad idea to use paid traffic like this with cpa.
most of the time it fails because there is a normal 5~15% of clicks on the cpa only (not impressions) will do the survey
so most of the chances that you wont profit from it
i have a journey too and i use free traffic only (like facebook) you can post there 24/7 on pages\groups
and that acually works.
good luck with your journey
Update 2:
Okay guys, time for a first checkup and let me tell you, it does not look good... Far to low CPC! I mean 0,03%? Guess that happens with untargeted cheap traffic. I am even wondering if the impression count is correct or if there is some kind of cheating mechanism involved, such as banner rotation or ads maybe displayed on the bottom of the page...
I am using adperium in this case as advertiser, so maybe some of you guys have experience with them? Well so far I only got one lead, which is already lucky and will not happen again while the click rate is such low. So I guess this will end up badly, but I still keep you posted till the end!
Here are the detailed data...
Day 2:
Incoming: 1,10 €
Impressions: 22327 | Clicks: 7 | CPC: 0,03% | Conversions: 1 | Conversion rate: 14,29% | CPM: $0,22 | Budget spent: $4,94
Day 3:
Incoming: 0,00 €
Impressions: 23014 | Clicks: 6 | CPC: 0,03% | Conversions: 0 | Conversion rate: 0,00% | CPM: $0,22 | Budget spent: $5,10
Okay guys, time for a first checkup and let me tell you, it does not look good... Far to low CPC! I mean 0,03%? Guess that happens with untargeted cheap traffic. I am even wondering if the impression count is correct or if there is some kind of cheating mechanism involved, such as banner rotation or ads maybe displayed on the bottom of the page...
I am using adperium in this case as advertiser, so maybe some of you guys have experience with them? Well so far I only got one lead, which is already lucky and will not happen again while the click rate is such low. So I guess this will end up badly, but I still keep you posted till the end!
Here are the detailed data...
Day 2:
Incoming: 1,10 €
Impressions: 22327 | Clicks: 7 | CPC: 0,03% | Conversions: 1 | Conversion rate: 14,29% | CPM: $0,22 | Budget spent: $4,94
Day 3:
Incoming: 0,00 €
Impressions: 23014 | Clicks: 6 | CPC: 0,03% | Conversions: 0 | Conversion rate: 0,00% | CPM: $0,22 | Budget spent: $5,10
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Zoomer3690
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- Jun 20, 2013
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IMO, You may get banned for the type of stats you are getting. It's clearly visible that you are trying to do something blackhat.
No, I won't... First because this stats are only visible to me. The CPA advertiser only sees that 13 links generated one conversion, nothing else, they dont know how many impressions are made (Don't forget, I am only using a ref link, but nothing that can record any data for them, eg. no javascript and no no 1px img). Second because I run the same campaign with dozens others on my main page as well totally legit and this generates by itself around 10€-15€/day. But I wanted to try this method without using my normal daily traffic. And third, because i cloak the referer and it seems like this clicks came from my standard page.
Hence, with this click rate it is totally useless... Does someone of you guys know a good advertiser with at least country targeting options and which is affordable?
Hence, with this click rate it is totally useless... Does someone of you guys know a good advertiser with at least country targeting options and which is affordable?
Zoomer3690
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- Jun 20, 2013
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