ActionTaker
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Shit's also happening in the local searches. 3 COMPLETELY irrelevant pages (COMPLETELY different service niche) showed up on page one for a fairly competitive term.
Sites Gone? Google Update? WTF
- Thread starter WhoAmINow007
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There is no perfect explanation. Their algorithm has so many variables that whatever explanation someone comes up with can always be disproved. What is clear is that traditional quick, easy, cheap SEO has gone out the window. This is what happens when one company has too much information. They should not be allowed to have all the information they have. And the result is a monopoly. They are basically dictating to the world how a website should be built, which is wrong.
The problem is that if you build a great site, unique content, etc... but you don't build backlinks to it how in the world will the world find out about the site. They won't unless you get lucky.
Bing and Yahoo rank sites (in my opinion) based on the quantity of backlinks as a major factor. Even if your site sucks in Google, you can rank highly in the other search engines by using traditional SEO methods. Problem as we all know is that 70%+ of searches happen on Google.
What is not fair is that historically Google ranked sites based on certain premises... so people spend their time and money focusing on these premises to build up their sites. Now Google has flipped a switched and everything you worked for gets destroyed yet Google is still there rolling along making billions of dollars. They think they are God of the internet.
audioguy
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Actually I think both of your theories are true.
They run out of ideas to increase revenue but to put larger ad blocks, push down organic search results, etc. Those in return will decrease user experience. Do that enough, and people will start fleeing to Bing. Thus they are killing themselves.
They run out of ideas to increase revenue but to put larger ad blocks, push down organic search results, etc. Those in return will decrease user experience. Do that enough, and people will start fleeing to Bing. Thus they are killing themselves.
hellokitty
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Most of my sites are dropping and dropping... with some I never built backlinks and they were all natural. Mostly original content. All dropping. No idea what g00gle is doing.
manny521
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- Sep 15, 2011
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The penalty I received on Feb 17th seems to be slowly wearing off too...Tomorrow will be 60 days since my penalty...I really hope I only have 30 more days of this crap...
I have spent a few thousand dollars to try to break out of this and some results are starting to show, this next month will be very important to see what happens...
My site actually went up today, so I am glad for this...sorry to hear about the other people here who have lost some rankings...i sympathize with you guys as I had the same thing happen a little while ago...
subster
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- Apr 5, 2008
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The really strange thing is, my drop started exactly on Friday 13th. Two Top5 rankings to #30 (lower search volume) and #80 (higher search volume). The date seems like a kind of the typical google humor to me. The even numbers of the rankings are suspicious, too.
Is the consensus still that this is basically affecting fairly new websites??
Thankfully, I haven't seen any of my sites affected. I try my best to keep diverse keyword profiles, lots of link sources, and basically tread carefully in my link-building efforts...even while using some of the common tools of the trade. (senuke, SB, AMR..ect). I've got 100's of sites, and am lightly using a private BLN, and they do still help rankings.
Am hoping all of your rankings return by tomorrow. What a dumb move by the big G - I can see so many irrelevant results showing up... it's not even funny.
Keep your heads up guys!
Thankfully, I haven't seen any of my sites affected. I try my best to keep diverse keyword profiles, lots of link sources, and basically tread carefully in my link-building efforts...even while using some of the common tools of the trade. (senuke, SB, AMR..ect). I've got 100's of sites, and am lightly using a private BLN, and they do still help rankings.
Am hoping all of your rankings return by tomorrow. What a dumb move by the big G - I can see so many irrelevant results showing up... it's not even funny.
Keep your heads up guys!
thehobbster
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- Sep 23, 2011
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Me and several of the people I talk to all saw their rankings go bye bye too. This is a pretty serious shift and it's gotta be backlink related.
fad3r
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- Sep 17, 2011
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I have 4 sites all using the exact same tools, linking strategies, etc 3 out of 4 are fine. 1 vanished for 4 out of 5 keywords so I cant imagine that is the case.
Ok, but did you use any 'stupid' keywords that you would normally find people using... like "view here" or "look at this" or common dumb phrases? I think this is a very big indicator to Google when all anchor text is a specific keyword that relates to the site. People aren't smart enough to ALWAYS use good keyword anchor text phrases.
Winchester
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It's either over optimization or devaluation both covered in this http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/424148-guide-dealing-over-optimization-sky-isnt-falling.html