Share your failures

There is something called "Success bias" or something like that. The idea is that though successful people and endeavors are only a very small percentage of all efforts we hear about them much more than about the failures. There are many reasons for this. One of the main reasons is of course the fact that people prefer to boast about their success than admit publicly their failures. Another reason is that the people who failed are gone. For example, if you ask which is the average return of an investment fund today you will get an answer. But that answer does not take into account all the funds that have gone bust over the years; it will only refer to the funds that are still in the game today, which in order to survive are less or more successful. The "success bias" is present everywhere. Everyone hears how the champions became champions, but nobody hears the story of the millions of guys who tried hard and ultimately failed.

IM is full of failures. And if you are worth your salt you should know it from first hand already. I believe one of the reasons for so many failures (which nobody talks about) is that IM is promoted by some like a more elaborate get rich quick scheme. Like in every such scheme (from Multi-Level Marketing to forex trading) there are many thousands of people who lose money for every few who actually make money.

I don't mean that everyone who fails is a loser who was taken for a ride. I'm just frustrated by the fact that we get the wrong idea about how hard and rare it is to succeed in IM. And yes, failure can be good. It should not stop you from trying. Even the best fail. So go ahead and share your failure story. We may learn from it much more than all the 5 and 10K$ a month success stories posted all over the web.

Kav13 said:

There are many reasons for this. One of the main reasons is of course the fact that people prefer to boast about their success than admit publicly their failures.

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I am not too sure about that, there seems to be as many self pity threads here than there does boasters and bullshitters.

Hi,

LOL. I haven't found those threads. Any links?
And talking about a failure isn't necessarily self pity, right?

Kav13 said:

Hi,

LOL. I haven't found those threads. Any links?
And talking about a failure isn't necessarily self pity, right?

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Well they tend to be full of self pity due to their failure, always thinking the world is against them. If you stick around long enough, you are bound to see one.

mickyfu said:

If you stick around long enough, you are bound to see one.

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Or a thousand... for some reason people gravitate to IM thinking they can make oodles of cash with no effort and cry when they don't.

Learning + Testing + Twisting + Hard Work = IM Success.

I will love to tell you how many times and how each time I failed at IM, but you'll have to pay US$100 per story. They are that valuable, at least.

This is the real reason why no one is interested in hearing the flop stories, they want everything free. The success stories costs money, and you pay for those, but you will never pay for the failed ones. One needs to change this biased outlook towards the failed ones.

To me, those failed attempts are more important than the ones (at least 1) which I passed.

srb888 said:

To me, those failed attempts are more important than the ones (at least 1) which I passed.

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Totally agree. We have more to learn from mistakes.

The only reason you failed is because you gave up too soon.

I'll be the first to admit when I've failed. Hell, I've even had my share of pitty posts. One thing I learned though, people here will show some sympathy for you, but don't expect anyone to pick you up and dust you off. Some things simply can't be taught to you in a thread.

I could name off every IM failure that I've had, but most of them are still in the process of being fixed and figured out. Sure, some things I work on may not pan out at all, but I won't know that until it happens. I'm determined though. Failures are only lessons on what not to do.

tayaX said:

The only reason you failed is because you gave up too soon.

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I can't agree with you. I don't think keep stick to it can make your success. If I can make money without putting much effort in it. Why could I work so hard? There are too many post just tell you gave up too soon is the reason.

when you feel stupid, just think that we have spend 500$ on adsense for another site (not this from the signature) and we didn't got any conversion

asunshine said:

I can't agree with you. I don't think keep stick to it can make your success. If I can make money without putting much effort in it. Why could I work so hard? There are too many post just tell you gave up too soon is the reason.

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Giving up means not understanding the reason why you failed. You didnt fail because "this method doesnt work". You failed because you didnt manage to understand what were wrong in the way you implemented the method. Because if you did find that, you would have twisted it and made money. So yes, I say again, people who fail are people who give up too soon.
Just because someone found a fast way to make money means eveyrone should be able to do it like that.
If you work hard enough on a method to master it, you will be able to find a twist and make money out of it.

tayaX said:

Giving up means not understanding the reason why you failed. You didnt fail because "this method doesnt work". You failed because you didnt manage to understand what were wrong in the way you implemented the method. Because if you did find that, you would have twisted it and made money. So yes, I say again, people who fail are people who give up too soon.
Just because someone found a fast way to make money means eveyrone should be able to do it like that.
If you work hard enough on a method to master it, you will be able to find a twist and make money out of it.

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I don't agree with you either.
Sometimes you just can not succeed in some endavours. Not everything is "copy paste some method". There may be some flair, or skill or talent and certainly luck, that one may lack in a specific project. Don't listen to all these motivational speakers. They may be good at motivating, but they do not tell you all the truth. Sometimes you just have failed and must deal with it and move on. Persistence may be a vice but stubbornness is not.

Kav13 said:

I don't agree with you either.
Sometimes you just can succeed in some endavours. Not everything is "copy paste some method". There may be some flair, or skill or talent and certainly luck, that one may lack in a specific project. Don't listen to all these motivational speakers. They may be good at motivating, but they do not tell you all the truth. Sometimes you just have failed and must deal with it and move on. Persistence may be a vice but stubbornness is not.

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You obvisouly didnt read what I wrote. I never talked about copy paste method. There is no such thing. There is just smart people who make money on a specified market. There is no market where you can fail. If there is a need, there is a demand. If there is a demand, there's money to be made. If you can't get on the broad market, get on a niche.

It's not about motivational speaker. It's about people finding excuses because they can't figure out why they failed.

Edit : Just get on page 4 or 5 of the journeys and you will see tons of people giving up because they are lazy, because money doesnt come as fast as expected, because they are not made for IM. It's not the method that failed, it's them.

BassTrackerBoats said:

Or a thousand... for some reason people gravitate to IM thinking they can make oodles of cash with no effort and cry when they don't.

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With special thanks going to CEO Sam Massey and folks of similar ilk.

Buying traffic from Innoshow and Ayuads (2 times) made me have my adsense account banned.
I was having a very secure income of $3,500+ per month.
This guys ruined it.
Never buy traffic for Adsense. Use Growth Hacking techniques.

I had a two year old Play developer account. It was more or less in good standing for about 1.5 years (I had three policy strikes due to problems caused by incompetence on part of Pingjam, im sure people know about it).

I had 13 apps, 10K active users and about 150K installs.

I had developed a new game and uploaded it to the account, just to get the listing ready. The app was still being developed and not ready for release.

I was just playing around and chatting on forums talking about testing my game. I read about the Play app Beta testing feature. I read it was private and the app does not get released. So i put the app forward for Beta Testing.

I was waiting for the Beta testing link but to my shock the app got suspended and my account got suspended. I have appealed and hoping for reinstatement.... . This was in october last year.

Id like to learn from my mistake and look for a moral, but is there?

If the app was never released how can it be suspended? Having read Google policies in depth its clear their policies relate specifically to apps published to the public on the Play store. But my app was only submitted for private Beta testing, it is a developement feature.

There are still morals which others should take heed of. Do not take the issues of using trademarks and copyrighted sprites lightly. Make sure your apps are YOUR ideas. Ive seen others use trademarks within descriptions to describe their app or to make statements like "This app is much better than Angry Birds" which have been quoted from users of your apps. You would think that this is allowed!?

Always make sure your app name is unique, make sure if you have downloaded sprites that they are public domain or you have the licence to use them. Sometimes you find sites that they sprites are free to use but actually they are not, they might be ripped or pirate. But should developers not be given benefit of the doubt in these cases?

Ive seen other apps use sprites and gameplay so similar to existing popular apps (and have like million installs) that you are baffled as to how they are still up there.

rodvan said:

Buying traffic from Innoshow and Ayuads (2 times) made me have my adsense account banned.
I was having a very secure income of $3,500+ per month.
This guys ruined it.
Never buy traffic for Adsense. Use Growth Hacking techniques.

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Ive read posts on here that say that AyuAds is adsense safe.

If you buy clicks that is clear to see why thats not allowed. but if you just buy traffic that is genuine real people, Youre not forcing them to click the ads or to even look at them, but simply to check out your site, is that still not allowed by them? (wouldnt make sense)

no money to invest, so no money
it is a big problem for me