SEO Ranking For Highly Competitive Keywords CHALLENGE

few words for you mate botw & yahoo dir only way how you can beat them , you arleady have there enough content ( fresh than competitor ) ... bust your a$$ and get some real links ... about dmoz .. everyone knows about all bitching around about them .... I know this are expensive but ... sometime they really worth their prices ( tested personally and worked like a charm ) .

Hi Lakers,

just some tips:
-go to getafreelancer, hire a dmoz editor to enter the site into the dmoz. $40-80
-go to unique article wizard buy a month membership create some articles and submit it.
-go to linkvana, use it (very-very good for long term)
-buy an article dir submitter, (eg: ********* dot com / blog) submit some articles.

Find your new pages on the web, and BH them with some links.

(And if you have some more time and money, buy senuke, and work on your existing links. If you have 300 IBL, run the senuke 10 times a day and you will finished it within a month)

csaba said:

-go to getafreelancer, hire a dmoz editor to enter the site into the dmoz. $40-80

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Does this guarantee acceptance into dmoz? or is it still risky.
If it doesn't guarantee the acceptance, i might as well just do it myself and pray!!

Thanks Csaba -

With SeNuke what is the best way to use it to get links? I just got the trial version about 5 days ago and have used it. I know how to use it now, but i dont know a great strategy that wont get me banned. I guess I should use it to drive links to the new web 2.0 pages? I guess I should use SeNuke to drive links to my new 10 blogs also.

Do you use Linkvana and have seen success? Ive seen mixed reviews on this forum but i think thats mostly due to price.

Ive been using Jetspinner/Jetsubmitter for asrticles but Ive found over the past 6 months that its not helping, when it did prior to that. I get the feeling that once your at the top these link blasts just dont really work anymore. Ive got to increase the quality of the links I already have, and the new ones I get.

let me know what you think....

itdeptm said:

Does this guarantee acceptance into dmoz? or is it still risky.
If it doesn't guarantee the acceptance, i might as well just do it myself and pray!!

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Payment via escrow is the guarantee.
And see testimonials of the bidders before you choose the best bidders.

You can low your risk.

Linkvana, 1waylinks and article marketing automation are better alternatives to your free traffic system. These are the blogs you're talking about here. You can also find such similar private networks that allow you to post your content if you look closely. Try DP too.

LakersLakers said:

Thanks Csaba -

With SeNuke what is the best way to use it to get links? I just got the trial version about 5 days ago and have used it. I know how to use it now, but i dont know a great strategy that wont get me banned. I guess I should use it to drive links to the new web 2.0 pages? I guess I should use SeNuke to drive links to my new 10 blogs also.

Do you use Linkvana and have seen success? Ive seen mixed reviews on this forum but i think thats mostly due to price.

Ive been using Jetspinner/Jetsubmitter for asrticles but Ive found over the past 6 months that its not helping, when it did prior to that. I get the feeling that once your at the top these link blasts just dont really work anymore. Ive got to increase the quality of the links I already have, and the new ones I get.

let me know what you think....

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If I understand you, you are working a site one of your clients.

I'm working as well client's sites and carefully working with them.

You have a "network" around this sites. (web2, submitted articles with links to client etc., all the backlink holder is an element of this network)
Your backlink network content about 300 elements and your competitor's network contents about 100 elements if I right.
You have to strengthen your network with backlinks, and here you can use senuke or bruteforceseo.

This is lot of work but your network will very good.

You can use these tools to build links to the client's site, and to the network (your existing and future web2,blog etc)

And you can use other method as well (GH,BH) to build links to your network - but not to the client's site.

Don't afraid - you will not be banned if you are smart.
Never use bh or gh on a wh site or the environment of this site.

Jetspinner - not powerful because the quality of the blogs of this network.

The UAW is better.

Linkvana - the monthly membership is $150, not cheap.
This is a good tool/network in my opinion, but there are not fast results.

If you set up a project (this is a targat site) the max amounth of links/day 3-5.
All links need a unique blogpost with min 100 words content.
The solution will post your mini articles to the blog network and never tell you the url. (but you can find it with google)

I outsorced all of my "writing work" to the linkvana staff for $2 post.
If you count:
average: 120 post/month => $240
membership => $150
summa $390 - not too cheap, and you have to wait to 4-5 month to see some great results.

You can strengthen this network as well.

But if your client pay good - you can use these tools on the right way.

DON'T BE CHEAP!!
(You have spend lot of money, your have to learn, discuss, try methods....)

Lakers,
Also, since you said it's a science-related niche, take a stab at getting some edu backlinks for yourself in the form of comments on blogs that are do-follow.

Eric Giguere wrote an eBook (PDF) about it, and even wrote a tool to help automate the grunt work parts of it. PM me if you want, and I'll get a copy to you.

@Wicker - I just checked out 1waylinks, AMA, and Linkvana and they look great. Look killer compared to jetspinner/jetsubmitter. question though - do you use these sites to push links to your WH target, or to BH web 2.0 pages, etc. in other words what is the best strategy?

@Csaba - Yes you are understanding correctly, I am performing SEO for a specific client. Im not afraid to spend some money to crack this nut. Thanks so much for your information here. So, if I understand you correctly, you are saying that I need to strengthen my backlink network by using something like SeNuke to drive backlinks to the network (not my target WH site)....is this correct?

I guess I am hearing that a big component of this is building a BH network around the target site, and then strengthening that network. correct?

Have any of you guys used AutoPligg to strengthen the BH network? it looks simple to use but not sure if it delivers anything on the level that I need.

@Malthooslie - I PM'd you. thanks!

Guys if there is one thing I will tell you, Im going to try a lot of your suggestions and I will post back at what worked and what did not.

hey Guys also - what do you think about this guy and the services he offers? hxxp://talismanclick.com/ I found him here from this thread he seems to be legit with some great reviews.

pretty darn cheap for a lot of work. right? I could use this to drive backlinks to my network of 10 blogs, which will build their credibility and link juice

I would rather pay if its cheap enough because at a certain point it makes more sense to outsource the work when it will cost you the same, in terms of time, to do it yourself. My time can be much better spent getting more sales....

I've been in your situation before and here's how I broke through and topped the competitor.

Three words: Linkbait and digg.

Yes, its not exactly blackhat stuff. As you probably will know, a digg frontpage will send not just traffic but get you a ton of links... especially links from sites in the same niche. If you use your keyword in the bait piece, most likely other sites will link to you with the same keyword title which is quite valuable, especially if its a link from a relevant blog that has some solid PR juice.

Obviously its not for everyone, but once you spent time on learning the system, you don't need to do all that stuff that everyone else mentioned. Of course you need to know how to write content that works and approach a power user to submit it...

Rinse and repeat until you get what you want. Its an extremely powerful way to get legitimate links for free.

LakersLakers said:

@Wicker - I just checked out 1waylinks, AMA, and Linkvana and they look great. Look killer compared to jetspinner/jetsubmitter. question though - do you use these sites to push links to your WH target, or to BH web 2.0 pages, etc. in other words what is the best strategy?

@Csaba - Yes you are understanding correctly, I am performing SEO for a specific client. Im not afraid to spend some money to crack this nut. Thanks so much for your information here. So, if I understand you correctly, you are saying that I need to strengthen my backlink network by using something like SeNuke to drive backlinks to the network (not my target WH site)....is this correct?

I guess I am hearing that a big component of this is building a BH network around the target site, and then strengthening that network. correct?

Have any of you guys used AutoPligg to strengthen the BH network? it looks simple to use but not sure if it delivers anything on the level that I need.

@Malthooslie - I PM'd you. thanks!

Guys if there is one thing I will tell you, Im going to try a lot of your suggestions and I will post back at what worked and what did not.

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You can use senuke for your client's site as well!! (and for your backlink network of corse)
Your linknetwork is wh - if I understand right - it belongs to te content.
You can use autopligg, or ********* (as gh method) to strengthen you backlink network.

Autopligg and pligsubmitter are good tools, I have them.

You need ANCHORED BACKLINKS for the keywords you are trying to rank for. The best backlink is:

Keyword Anchored
From an Authority Site
IS Relevant- Same Niche, Same subject, Keyword in Title etc.
In a post - not comments, blogroll etc. needs to be contextual

There are only 4 ways to get links like this. (that I can think of at the moment)

Naturally, great content etc.
Friends in the Niche
Buy Them
Farms

The only option you have right now is to buy them. Go find a .edu PR7 blog in your niche. Offer the guy 500.00 to 1000.00 for a contextual link in a post. Be honest and explain to him/her that you are a reputable site and a link from him would help with your sites credibility. (Don't mention SERP ) And that you are a fan of his blog etc.. In fact you may want to post on his blog a few times and gain some trust. (a pr7 .edu link is worth it)
This alone should get you to #3
Also,

You might consider this trick. Find a politician in your niche. There will be several, just use your brain a little. Write an article that supports him and his views on the/a subject or issue. In the article you will stuff your keywords (don't be obvious) and you are going to plant your keyword anchored link in the article. Contact the politicians aide and e-mail the article to him, then ask him if you could use their blog to host the article. Remember the article must support the politician (give him/her juice). Be ready to lay down a very nice campaign contribution as well. Politicians need supporters and $$$$. Trade what they need for what you need. That link should be a PR7-8.

Hit me with a thanks if you liked the above idea. I didn't really want to give that up, but I have no credibility here as I'm new. It's not for everyone but if 3 G spots can mean the difference of thousands of $$ ............

When you get to #3 Pm me and I will tell you how to knock Wiki Off. It's BH as hell but safe.

If you want PM me with the site and competitor and I will map his farm. If the gloves have to come off, you will need it.

If you try BH linking tools ie. spammers etc.. don't link to your money site directly, Link to your supporting sites and you should be fine. Your supporting sites should be hosted separately (if using BH). They should also be in the same niche, but just keep it natural. You can proxy if you want, but if you are hosting on different C blocks its not necessary unless you try to monetize the supporting sites with adsense. Supporting sites should be on known (Google) trusted networks or have natural PR.

One last thing, if your selling SEO, you need to build a vast network of Internet Real Estate. Not Splogs, Legit sites that can support your system.

Good Day
Skank

Skank, a thanks for that is no problem. Im sending you a PM right now

Guys - by the way, I just gave "thanks" to all of you that have helped me out here. some of you multiple. keep it comin!

Hello, I'm new at SEO, so forgive me if what I'm about to say sounds silly but..

I have learned that you rank pages not sites...
If you have more pages, you will have a lower density of inbound links (probably the links will land in multiple pages - if so you need to have a really good page rank distribution).
If you have larger texts probably you will have a lower Keyword density, proximity and prominence.
And if you can't control the inbound links then you will have less relevant links. This way you can't control the words/expressions wrapped by the link tag. So by some good links...

How do you rank at Google's local rank?

By the way.. how do you rank in yahoo and live search?

Have you tried using youtube to help you?

Best Regards
(Sorry for my English...)

Guys -

When building high PR links: If you get a link on a PR0 post/page of a do-follow blog whose home page has a PR5, is this worth much?

Ive always been under the impression that the higher the PR, the better the link juice. For example in my own network of sites I notice that if I give a link from the home page, the link provides incredible value in comparison to a deep brand new page on the site.

Let me know because it looks like my next step is buying some high PR links and seeing what happens over 2-3 weeks.

Guys I want to let you know (based upon Skanks suggestion) I lobbed out some emails this morning to other people ranking on my keyword that werent competitors. One guy emailed me back within 4 hours and just added my link for free. The link was placed with my anchor text on a do follow PR2 page, on a site with a PR5.

Ive sent out 7 emails so far, so Im one for seven. I'll keep you guys posted.

migcosta said:

I have learned that you rank pages not sites?
If you have more pages, you will have a lower density of inbound links (probably the links will land in multiple pages ? if so you need to have a really good page rank distribution).
If you have larger texts probably you will have a lower Keyword density, proximity and prominence.

Best Regards
(Sorry for my English?)

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Your first line is correct, search engines and directories rank pages - this makes your other statement false.

You do not have a lower density of links just because they go to individual pages. This is exactly how you can get two results on the first page of all three engines.

When your page strength and content is good, these links and rankings will take care of themselves (in organic search).

Your PgRnk may suffer for your homepage (who cares?) This means little to nothing. PgRnk matters on incoming links, but not your rankings. This, plus conversion of those visitors is where your focus should be.

Long text does not necessarily equal lower density or prominence in a topic (IMO).

First off the fact that your competitor owns the exact phrase as domain is a great advantage to him.
You'll never know if he is doing some active seo, and 5 strong links can be much more powerful than hundreds of OK links. Maybe one of his links is so strong that he passes on TR to him?
And also , he might be using methods to disguise some of his links like using redirected websites that seem innocent but are actually passing some major juice.

I'd suggest you to get alot more QUALITY links (don't risk blackhat after you have put so much effort).
Let me tell you that 300 GOOD links from high PR and great content websites is NOTHING when it comes to competitive terms - go and PURCHASE great links from relevant resources.
It's going to cost you some money but if the +1 in ranks would pay that, so it's merely an investment. If the extra traffic won't cover the cost of some links (100-1000USD a month), so don't even bother, proceed to your other projects.
Best of luck.