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SEO jobs - should i do it?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by whazly, Apr 29, 2016.

  1. whazly

    whazly Newbie

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    Hi bhw-community!
    lets come straight to the point. I wrote in the title SEO-job offers, because thats exactly whats happening right now to me.
    Since a few years im running my own buisiness far away from the SEO, Creating Pages etc. Niche.
    But when i started my business i need like the most business nowadays a Site on the web.
    I was always interested in computers, internet and all the magic behind, i would call it my hobby.

    I saw such a big difference on prices and services to build a site and rank it, that you actually would get some clients. So i decided to dig into it and start learning and "try" to understand everything i needed, atleast i can say if the price was worth or not.
    My biggest interest was in SEO so it didnt take me long to come here, the place where it all started.
    I learned here so many things that i didnt even expected to be in use or even created but thats the special thing about here.

    Some friends of mine are also selfemployed and i helped them out sometimes with just answering questions about what they should do or if they guy who is doing all the services for them is charging them right.
    This simple task, gave me like some kind of "if you want to know something about internet or computers ask him" status. (I dont live in a big city as you can imagine).

    And now im here.
    Since two weeks im receiving like 2-3 clients that want a homepage build and get them ranked.
    To rank them its basically that they want to be on google. We are not talking about beeing top3 of google. The most of them just think this is enough. .
    the real problem is that i can create a wordpress page, can code enough or know how to google what i need, and part of SEO. But im not sure if this should be enough to start doing this work.
    I read everyday bhw and try to learn new things but seeing all this knowledge here lets me think that actually i know nothing.

    My questions after all this textblock and info about me. Should i go for it? Should i invest in buying the tools you guys use here. Like scrapebox, gsa, moz, majestics and all this stuff?
    As i told you im selfemployed and in the last months my earnings decreased so this webs for clients would be a good alternative or a good backupplan.

    i wrote lets get straight to the point but i think it ended all in more then i expected. Sorry for my english guys its not my native language but i think you will get what i mean.

    Thanks guys for the help and to keep this forum such a great place!
     
  2. loopline

    loopline Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Do 1 or 2 clients for free. Ask them if you can use them as referrals and references so that when a client wants proof you can say "Go talk to X or Y" and they agree to take a few phone calls and talk about their experience in exchange for free work.

    Then it gives you a couple of trails to make mistakes and learn. At the end of it if you foul it all up and can't get it done then the clients are probably more organized and can go elsewhere and get what they want faster and you can just delete the site.

    More then likley though it will give you the testing grounds to mess up some and then learn and then move smoothly into paid clients. Like a beta. Or charge them half rate or something.

    I mean if it was your hobby then you stand to learn if nothing else but I find when I just dive in I make mistakes and figure stuff out and then get comfortable and can go faster and do better at the same time.

    In other words:

    Ready, Fire! Aim
     
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    Do a JV with someone here (who knows what he does) Arrange on a good % . You bring clients ,, He does the work !!
     
  4. MisterF

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    My opinion is do these people understand what rankings mean ?
    "Since two weeks im receiving like 2-3 clients that want a homepage build and get them ranked.
    To rank them its basically that they want to be on google."

    Have they just got money to burn ?
    Anyone can get a website indexed on Google, but surely they must know that sitting on page 97, isn't going to bring them any business.
     
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  5. ChanzGrande

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    I think you've fairly adequately described your situation OP, and this is just a side project for you at this time. I understand your primary self-employment earnings dropped so you are looking for a way to subsidize your living with an alternate earnings opportunity in SEO.

    Then you go on to ask about all the tools of the trade and whether you should invest in those things? It seems like most of your clients thus far have come to you by word of mouth and haven't been serious enough to understand what they need in an actual ranking strategy. That was good for you then, but would be bad for you to pursue as a general practice. You actually want to be able to adequately educate customers in the SEO niche if you want to earn serious money.

    You need to be able to tell these people what they want/need in a website long before you start investing in expensive SEO tools you don't even know how to use, or what they accomplish. SEO has been your hobby, and that is clear from what you've expressed thus far.

    If you want to make SEO your business you're going to need to know what you're talking about long before buying those tools. You gotta get the lingo down, and learn about on-page/off-page ranking factors such as html tags, backlinks, trustflow and domain flow, etc... If you're seriously considering moving into SEO as a real-world approach to increasing your earnings capacity, then there are a lot of resources here on BHW that can show you the ropes of the industry, give you the base education, and help you understand what the various automation tools are that people use for SEO, and how to use them in a well rounded overall SEO execution strategy for any given business.

    In my opinion this isn't the time to start burning through your money. It's the time to decide if you have what it takes to make it in SEO, and start acquiring base knowledge and see if you are confident it's the right avenue of exploration for you at this time in your life.
     
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  6. RuthSam

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    Some nice information in this thread. Getting a few clients you can use for references is gold worth.
     
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  7. whazly

    whazly Newbie

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    First of all i want to thank all of you guys to answer my post. Thanks for spending your time and trying to give me this feedback.

    Loopline i think taking "test clients" and start to try out what i can reach for them is the way to go. I think it will be a really good way to get references. Normally im a guy with this kind of thinking. Dont just stand and watch just go for it and learn with and from it.

    Yuuzokun as you probably can imagine i allready got pms with purposes like this. But i think i dont want to outsource it

    MisterF yeah its sound kind of stupid but actually the situation is like this. A lot of "clients" want to have a website because they dont have one. They think just having a website will bring them sales or visits. Thats what i tried to explain, showing you the level of knowledge of the customers. They dont have like 4-5 figures to invest but want to start somewhere.

    Davers you are absolutley right! I dont want to sell them or tell them this SEO-Magic methods you can get from 5$ ebooks around the internet. Im not a person like this, i think or believe you can earn money without tricking the client or telling them fairytales.
    I believe in strong costumer relationship and make them understand what they need and how, exactly like you mentioned above. The question with the tools cam up after beeing here on the forum to be honest. I see a lot of posts where alot of this tools are mentioned and i see like new working processes or methods to acquire "backlinks,guest posts etc."
    The fact that if i buy this things i have to start to learn and understand them is true but im willing to do this. The mainfactor is, is it worth?
    For sure i can rank a page on google like misterF said but can i rank it good? Do this tools help me to get a step further.

    Ruthsam yeah i think thats the way to go like loopline said. Thanks!

    As you see and all of you understand im willing to learn and improve and bhw is a great source.

    I appreciate all the support and help i got from you guys, thats the reason this community impresses me so much.
     
  8. Gosite

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    The idea of getting test clients is defiantely a gold nugget, thanks!