Scammed by Royserpa for $800

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@royserpa you need to post pics and minus any personal information, even though this isn’t a SL you need to back all your words because $800 and $81 is a huge difference plus other stuff you said. Don’t share method here ask btb if he’s open to seeing it but get this stuff resolved.
 
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Mr Positive said:
@royserpa you need to post pics and minus any personal information, even though this isn’t a SL you need to back all your words because $800 and $81 is a huge difference plus other stuff you said. Don’t share method here ask btb if he’s open to seeing it but get this stuff resolved.
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Plus there should be clarity on whether he is personally doing card theft or not. I hope he is not.
 
Mr Positive said:
@royserpa you need to post pics and minus any personal information, even though this isn’t a SL you need to back all your words because $800 and $81 is a huge difference plus other stuff you said. Don’t share method here ask btb if he’s open to seeing it but get this stuff resolved.
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It was 0.1 btc, he would pay the other 0.1 btc if he made money.

OP doesnt even want to work on it but already knows everything about it. Oh and its not carding in any shape.

Doobspelon said:
Plus there should be clarity on whether he is personally doing card theft or not. I hope he is not.
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No, of course not. The method is not about carding or doing cc stuff. I can show mods what its about and decide.
 
Mr Positive said:
@royserpa Don’t share method here ask btb if he’s open to seeing it but get this stuff resolved.
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I don't want to vett the method.

No time, no interest, and it is not for sale here so it would not benefit the forum as I would be acting in an official capacity should I vett it.
 
royserpa said:
It was 0.1 btc, he would pay the other 0.1 btc if he made money.

OP doesnt even want to work on it but already knows everything about it. Oh and its not carding in any shape.
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If its not cc or something shady thing then why was your BST rejected in the first place? Did you not pm the mods asking for reconsideration and now that you have been called out you come out defending yourself!
 
BassTrackerBoats said:
I don't want to vett the method.

No time, no interest, and it is not for sale here so it would not benefit the forum as I would be acting in an official capacity should I vett it.
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I totally agree, man. But just for mods to see its nt about carding (what OP alleges)

TheVigilante said:
If its not cc or something shady thing then why was your BST rejected in the first place? Did you not pm the mods asking for reconsideration and now that you have been called out you come out defending yourself!
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In a very overall sense, its about lead arbitrage. Cant talk more about it as its against bhw rules.
 
royserpa said:
No, of course not. The method is not about carding or doing cc stuff. I can show mods what its about and decide.
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So the OP is telling lies? Your method doesn’t involve taking people’s CC details and using them without their knowledge to sign them up to cpa offers?

@OP: can you confirm please, have you lied? What’s going on here.

Based on your past performance Roy and how you carry yourself I’m inclined to believe the OP tbh.. perhaps I’m wrong, I doubt it though.

@OP: you own the method now as you’ve paid for it and he’s refusing a refund.. post it all public, let’s see what’s really been going on.


“lead arbitrage” - lol cmon Roy, that sounds like the same shit to me with a fancy name, you do realise even holding clients CC info like that is illegal right?
 
t0mmy said:
So the OP is telling lies? Your method doesn’t involve taking people’s CC details and using them without their knowledge to sign them up to cpa offers?

@OP: can you confirm please, have you lied? What’s going on here.

Based on your past performance Roy and how you carry yourself I’m inclined to believe the OP tbh.. perhaps I’m wrong, I doubt it though.

@OP: you own the method now as you’ve paid for it and he’s refusing a refund.. post it all public, let’s see what’s really been going on.
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So the method is lead arbitrage. You generate leads and you sell them to cpa offers or other companies. Its not carding.

Op has a cc offer and i said he could do that if he was too blackhat, but theres no need for that
 
t0mmy said:
So the OP is telling lies? Your method doesn’t involve taking people’s CC details and using them without their knowledge to sign them up to cpa offers?

@OP: can you confirm please, have you lied?

Based on your past performance and how you carry yourself I’m inclined to believe the OP tbvh.. perhaps I’m wrong, I doubt it though.
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I have not lied. He told me to collect credit card info and use it to sign up on CPA offers.

Also I did NOT know exactly what I was buying as he claimed.
And I asked for a refund BEFORE he delivered. When he shared more details about what it was about (after I paid).
Screenshot about using credit card info on CPA offers: http://prntscr.com/s7xjh1
 
krishnaverma said:
If he uses the pm on BHW to get your skype and then sells his method, then it is fine with bhw rules ?
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If this is violation 60% of us have violated rules.
If I am a JR. VIP member, and someone approaching me out of his greediness and even then get good stuff for price, then quit just coz of laziness. Asking for refund, until and unless seller said it is refundable is not a good thing.
 
JonasGreyHound said:
I have not lied. He told me to collect credit card info and use it to sign up on CPA offers.

Also I did NOT know exactly what I was buying as he claimed.
And I asked for a refund BEFORE he delivered. When he shared more details about what it was about (after I paid).
Screenshot about using credit card info on CPA offers: http://prntscr.com/s7xjh1
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I said that if you wanted to go too blackhat, but i wouldnt recommend that to anyone at all.
 
JonasGreyHound said:
I have not lied. He told me to collect credit card info and use it to sign up on CPA offers.

Also I did NOT know exactly what I was buying as he claimed.
And I asked for a refund BEFORE he delivered. When he shared more details about what it was about (after I paid).
Screenshot about using credit card info on CPA offers: http://prntscr.com/s7xjh1
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That's pure and simple scamming people. I doubt he is selling this without testing himself.
 
Brilliant Digital Services said:
If this is violation 60% of us have violated rules.
If I am a JR. VIP member, and someone approaching me out of his greediness and even then get good stuff for price, then quit just coz of laziness. Asking for refund, until and unless seller said it is refundable is not a good thing.
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It is written in BST approval these days that buyer can ask for refund even if there is no refund policy. I have also lost money because of this as a seller but rules are rules.
 
t0mmy said:
So the OP is telling lies? Your method doesn’t involve taking people’s CC details and using them without their knowledge to sign them up to cpa offers?

@OP: can you confirm please, have you lied? What’s going on here.

Based on your past performance Roy and how you carry yourself I’m inclined to believe the OP tbh.. perhaps I’m wrong, I doubt it though.

@OP: you own the method now as you’ve paid for it and he’s refusing a refund.. post it all public, let’s see what’s really been going on.


“lead arbitrage” - lol cmon Roy, that sounds like the same shit to me with a fancy name, you do realise even holding clients CC info like that is illegal right?
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From what i understand aside from "revealing" the method, they had some personal chatter as well.

OP told Roy about hes line of work, which is CC offers, and Roy, suggested a "stupid" idea at that time, i don't know why, trying to sound knowledgeable? or helpful?

I am not sure and i don't know whether it has anything to do with the method he is selling.

And i am not vouching for either side, that's just what i understand from reading the whole thread.
 
Mr Positive said:
@t0mmy seeing op latest proof it’s clear @royserpa clearly suggested credit card misuse, unless he can post proof that’s not the case @royserpa mind posting all the pics of your convo minus the method because it seems op is telling truth
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I can post the whole method here if required. Theres an ebook and video and nowhere carding is mentioned at all.

SocialEyez said:
From what i understand aside from "revealing" the method, they had some personal chatter as well.

OP told Roy about hes line of work, which is CC offers, and Roy, suggested a "stupid" idea at that time, i don't know why, trying to sound knowledgeable? or helpful?

I am not sure and i don't know whether it has anything to do with the method he is selling.

And i am not vouching for either side, that's just what i understand from reading the whole thread.
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So, its lead arbitrage, and i had the stupid idea of telling he could truly blackhat but i wouldnt suggest that to anyone

neoxdz said:
are you serious my guy? how is it not carding lmao
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Its lead arbitrage. Not carding at all. Nothing relared to cards or id theft.

Doobspelon said:
You are signing up people using their cc information to several unwanted offers. They would get charged. This is not lead generation. THIS IS FRAUD. The CPA network will ban him too in the end due to chargebacks,
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The method is lead arbitrage, nothing related to carding, but OP had a cc offer and i had the stupid idea to tell him he could go really blackhat, but i wouldnt suggest that to anyone due to being illegal.

But lead arbitrage on its own, its not illegal.
 
Doobspelon said:
You are signing up people using their cc information to several unwanted offers. They would get charged. This is not lead generation. THIS IS FRAUD. The CPA network will ban him too in the end due to chargebacks.
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Wow dude, you really jump into conclusions. how do you know for certain that that's what he is doing?

Again i am not trying to defent Roy personally, but when someones reputation is on the line, you don't need bystanders to elaborate on the details they don't know.

Share your opinion maybe, but don't state as facts things you don't know for certain.
 
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