Scammed by Royserpa for $800

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So, on monday 27 april I saw this thread by Royserpa:
https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/a-real-blackhat-methods-section.1225997/
Where he was talking about a blackhat method to increase CPA sales. I was curious about it and therefore sent him a PM, he linked me to a thread on HF where he sold the method after chatting on Skype:
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I wasn't exactly sure what I was getting myself into, but he made it clear I could improve sales in my niche by 300-400% using a "trick" which I was so curious about I may have made a stupid decision to trust him since he has 5k posts on here.

He keep his methods secure and mysterious, he didn't wanna reveal too much (which I understand because then he wouldn't need to sell it). I thought it was about editing landing pages to increase conversion. But it was something totally different which I don't have the time, nor the morale to do.

I paid for his method and he started explaining a bit what it was about. He talked about setting up offers in a whole new niche (I have focused on the same niche for years, don't wanna change that). Then something quite shady which I don't personally feel like I wanna do.
So when I understood more clearly what it was about I asked for a refund before he sent me the method.
Screenshot here: prntscr.com/s7urgr

Then, after I asked for the refund, he proceeded to send me his method (ebook+video). Knowingly I wanted the refund and not get into it.
I asked for a refund several times after that, explaining why I didn't wanna get into this but he wouldn't listen. I offered him to keep 10% of the price for his time, but he kept ignoring it and said "dude. it works. You won't make a dime if you don't do it".
Screenshot: http://prntscr.com/s7uva3

Don't know how many times I explained that I just wanted to increase my conversion ratio on my own CPA offers, I didn't want to get into something new at all. I thought it would be optimization for my landing page or similar.


I know he didn't have a sales thread, so maybe I'm wrong to open a thread here? I just feel like sharing this so other people don't lose money and time with this.
I'm not saying his method doesn't work, because I haven't tried it. I just don't want to try this as it's against my morale and requires a lot of work and buying other stuff which I don't wanna mention as I don't wanna ruin his method.
 
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Don't know how many times I explained that I just wanted to increase my conversion ratio on my own CPA offers, I didn't want to get into something new at all. I thought it would be optimization for my landing page or similar.

That would not be blackhat, so I'm not quite sure what you were expecting...
 
... Or you are getting a ban. One out of three...

I thought selling via PM was not allowed

It is forbidden:
3.6 Advertising to, or solicitation of, any member to buy or sell any products or services through the unauthorized or impermissible use of the Site such as PM solicitation. (Note: If you have something you want to sell on this forum, post it in the For Sale section).
In his situation, the method he is trying to sell was considered as inappropriate for BHW, meaning that he should not have sold anything via PM or by redirecting you to another forum in the first place.
 
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That would not be blackhat, so I'm not quite sure what you were expecting...
Fair point. Guess the fault is mine. However, I do feel like he misrepresented it big time. It involved collecting CC information from traffic and signing them up on several CPA offers without asking them.
 
Thought he's one of the HQ members here. Hope you'll get your funds back mate!
 
I thought selling via PM was not allowed

the buyer pmed him he send him to a HAF thread he made the sale as per the rules as it’s not a direct sale, Roy seemed like a good person I hope it’s gets resolved
 
Fair point. Guess the fault is mine. However, I do feel like he misrepresented it big time. It involved collecting CC information from traffic and signing them up on several CPA offers without asking them.
Yes, that's how pure blackhat works mate. That;s one of the reasons it is not allowed here.
 
the buyer pmed him he send him to a HAF thread he made the sale as per the rules as it’s not a direct sale, Roy seemed like a good person I hope it’s gets resolved
HF = Hack Forums. Not HAF thread.
 
the buyer pmed him he send him to a HAF thread he made the sale as per the rules as it’s not a direct sale, Roy seemed like a good person I hope it’s gets resolved
Well sale was more made on Skype. He just sent the link in Skype, he convinced me and explained on Skype. I didn't buy because of HF at all.
 
Most annoying part is I asked for a refund before he sent the method, when I understood more what it was about. Then he proceeded to send me the ebook+video knowing I wanted the refund.
 
Thank you for warning us
Does he have a refund policy?

How did you pay?

In his defence, he did say it was truly blackhat but selling a shady method in PM is not allowed and shouldn't be
I got from this thread that he got a warning for it
https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/a-real-blackhat-methods-section.1225997/page-5#post-13138652

He specifically said "there are scammers and people like me that tell the truth"...

But I don't think mods can get him to refund because it happened outside of this forum.

His reputation here will be damaged but it still sucks that you lost that amount of money...

I will definitely not buy any of his services in the future now.
 
Thank you for warning us
Does he have a refund policy?

How did you pay?

In his defence, he did say it was truly blackhat but selling a shady method in PM is not allowed and shouldn't be
I got from this thread that he got a warning for it
https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/a-real-blackhat-methods-section.1225997/page-5#post-13138652

He specifically said "there are scammers and people like me that tell the truth"...

But I don't think mods can get him to refund because it happened outside of this forum.

His reputation here will be damaged but it still sucks that you lost that amount of money...

I will definitely not buy any of his services in the future now.

You are welcome. I paid with bitcoin so there's no refunding that.
Yeah, I think all hope is lost for the refund. Now I pretty much just wanna warn people in case he tries something similar later on.
 
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