Scammed by Bitgrimmy

I got scammed by this member that called himself Steven: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/members/803461-bitgrimmy.html


I can't over the fact how stupid I've been but I've paid this guy upwards of € 4000,- to get an FB agency account. We did a lot of talking on skype , he seemed legit (but I guess they all do). He knew a LOT about FB advertising so that's why I really thought this guy was for real. I paid him about € 2500,-, then he put me in contact what should have been an agent at FB called 'Mike' (later on I found out that Mike was using the same IP on skype as Steven).


I talked to Mike a lot and he knew even more about FB advertising and even gave me some examples of campaigns that should have good ROI. He then told me to have his support I had to put in another € 1500,- and then on top of that some fees. And stupid as I was I also paid him.


After that I should have gotten the account but then one problem after another occured and I got suspicious. I looked up their Skype IP's and found out they were using the same one. I confronted Steven with this but he still kept after his story. I told him I was pressing charges at him at the police station (which I did) and then it got awfully quiet and a few messages on it was radio silence all the way and it has been for the last 5 days (exactly when he received the last amount).


I can put up the Skype conversations on request if that helps in any way but it's a LOT.


I cannot begin to tell you how much this stresses me out as I couldn't really miss the money but that guy so talked me into it, it's shocking to find out how the prospect of earning a lot of money can make you do things... :-/


Anyway, this is what I have of 'Steven' a.ka. Bitgrimmy a.k.a Grimmy Works


I have his address but that turns out to be a hotel in Manchester.




Skype: bitgrimmy
Ip: *Removed*


FB agent 'mike'
Skype: mikefin84
Tel: *Removed (working or not, no phone #s OS)* (doesn't work)


And there was also this 3th guy 'Matt' who was also part of the plan. His Google-address is: [email protected]






The Neteller accounts I paid to:


*Removed*






I'm paying € 500,- to the one who helps to get my money back!

bitgrimmy has been notified he has 48 hours to respond.

@Gioom, I am going to have to see some proof - at least a partial skype log showing the deal and payment screenshots.

OS
PS. Reminder to all who have current issues, keep it PROFESSIONAL. No name calling or other insults.

Reminder to everyone else:
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The Skype of "FB Agent Mike" belongs to the following BHW account:
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/members/875080-minklink.html

minklink has now also been notified he has 48 hours to respond.

OS

I got contact with him and im waiting for a solution now!

bitgrimmy and minklink have both been perma-banned.

OS

Oldsalt, thanks for that. Unfortunately it did not help me. Still not a single response from either Bitgrimmy or Mikefin84 on Skype. They were only constantly when it all happened and now they're always offline.

If anyone has any tips how to retrieve my money that would be greatly appreciated!

Gloom, what exactly were you looking for me to accomplish? You got into a PM deal with a guy who joined about 9 months ago, created 54 posts that counted in the following 45 days and hasn't even logged in since December. Then you proceeded to chat via skype and sent him over € 4000 with absolutely no safety net in place. I wouldn't even send that kind of money to people I knew without some kind of assurance that I am actually getting what I paid for - You sent it to a stranger... well, 2 strangers.

I did the only thing I could do - I approved the SL and I contacted them. They chose not respond so I banned them. That's where my involvement ends. We are not the Internet police, we are moderators and admins. If you wanted your money to be safer, you should have worked with people who you knew better - or maybe started with something smaller than having to send € 4000 before you see anything from it.

I am sorry that you were scammed - but it's up to you to have more caution before sending your money that you worked hard for.

OS

Oldsalt, ohhh no, please don't get me wrong, you don't understand how much I appriceate the effort you took to even approve this thread. I don't expect anything from you or the members here. I'm so sorry that it came out wrong!

I just meant that even the banning did not move him/them to take any action of some kind, that's why I am kind of sad.

Of course it's all my stupid fault. I really don't know what got into me when I paid 4k to guys I have never seen or even talked before. It was an expensive lesson to be learned.

But I have not given up just yet. I've put some thing in motion that hopefully will help me. We'll see. But in the meantime I'm really grateful for your help and the members that PM'ed me! Thanks guys!!