Scam alert - jing87 (why is he not banned yet?)

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This is about blackhat member: jing87
skype: jingtheworld "Jing Services". Indian guys calls himself Adam
Payment went to: *Removed*
associate skype: numanagenca77 "Rohan N"


jing87 had a compelling story on skype about how he manages and grows Adword accounts, I transferred $900 upon discussing my campaigns in detail (my campaigns are legit - not illegal/blackhat - but needs account farming skills to grow fast).
Once money was received jing87 and Rohan N didn't provide any services and disappeared. All attempts to contact them are being ignored. Money never returned.


Question: What does it take to get someone banned here? What sold me in the end- and I was very suspicious, offer sounded too good- was that he is on the forum for years without ban. There are negative reviews about him (I did point those out to him, he basically said that these users attempted to run illegal stuff and therefore he kept the money)

Anyone know jing87 aka jingtheworld aka Adam aka Kartik Pul?

What are you guys doing in such a situation? I don't want to let this go, never been scammed before.
 
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You should open up a shit-list post for this, here is the appropriate place to open it. That will get his BHW account banned and his online reputation destroyed! If you payed him through a service you should dispute the payment. If you used a bank transfer, contact the bank and if that does not work, don't be afraid to contact the police.

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Thanks, I keep getting the following when trying to post to shit list
Sorry, you must comply with our agreement in order to make a post in this forum.


I seem to follow the guidelines, no real names, just summary of issue and skype logs.
I now even removed the skype name. I keep removing stuff and keep getting the "sorry" message.
Are there any other common reasons why I can't post to the shit list?
I did read the rules.

**Note by OldSalt - That error shows when you don't check the checkbox at the bottom of the SL page, which states that you have read and agree to the SL rules**

This is what I meant to post:


This is about blackhat member: jing87
Aka jingtheworld "Jing Services"
associate: numanagenca77 "Rohan N"

Jung87 has been active on this forum for quite some time and shared some knowledge about Adwords.
jing87 had a compelling story on skype about how he manages and grows Adword accounts (basically promising to be able to spend $xxx/day right away). I was suspicious and confronted him with some negative reviews on this forum about him. He basically said that these users were trying to promote something illegal which is why he chose to ignore them and keep the money.
I explained in detail what my offering was (nothing illegal, not even blackhat) and king87 understood and agreed to take this business on at a price that was agreed on.

Jing87 was now pushing hard for fast payment ($900) and stuck around with me for hours in the middle of the night his time to make sure I get him paid using payment methods I never used before (paypal or bank transfers were not possible)

I finally transferred $900 (this was in April) and when payment went through jing87 reassured that he will brief the "agency" on my campaign.
2 days later jing87 aka jingtheworld aka *Removed* asked for more money for some odd reasons or otherwise he cannot run it.
He knew I was suspicious from the beginning, and asking for more money at this point after we agreed already on everything clearly looked like a possible scam. I asked for a refund so I know I can trust him with money transfers moving forward. If this goes smooth I agreed to discuss the higher priced offer (I actually meant this, mistakes does happen, so I wanted to give him a chance). He agreed but said he needed 2 weeks because this is how it works in India with refunds.
When 2 weeks passed by I maybe got 1 more response and to this day he and his associate Rohan N chose to ignore all my attempts to get update on my payment. My money has never been returned.

Skype chat is posted below.


[3/19/16, 5:32:31 PM] CS: Hello, I saw your Google Adwords related posts on blackhat. What exactly do you offer? Accounts? Services? Would love to discuss further
[4/5/16, 9:02:19 AM] Jing Services: I do provide accounts and also help on blackhat ways
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[4/5/16, 9:57:12 PM] Jing Services: Well initial the account cost is 650, and monthly charge is 3% (without cloaker) and 5%(with cloaker)
[4/5/16, 9:57:20 PM] Jing Services: and we accept neteller, bitcoins, entropay only at moment
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[4/5/16, 10:09:35 PM] CS: So, you guys are in biz for some time. Not someone who pretens and wants to run with 650,
[4/5/16, 10:09:51 PM] Jing Services: Seriously we are not looking for 650, rather than that
[4/5/16, 10:09:57 PM] Jing Services: providing service would get more for us
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[4/5/16, 10:10:45 PM] Jing Services: You can make it happen right from today
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[4/5/16, 10:12:50 PM] CS: I need to get the trust part first sorted out, so want to stick to 1k
[4/5/16, 10:12:55 PM] Jing Services: yeah sure
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[4/5/16, 10:14:57 PM] Jing Services: Well I would say that bitcoins are best, I mean if you want to buy bitcoins,
you can buy instantly using western union or money gram
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[4/5/16, 10:15:13 PM] CS: When I hear western Union I think of scam
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[4/5/16, 10:17:26 PM] Jing Services: by the way, do you use skrill?
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(...) discussing payment methods in length (many hours). He's with me all this time (in the middle of the night his local time, helping me to get paid asap.

[4/6/16, 12:06:47 PM] CS: what is her referring to?
[4/6/16, 12:06:50 PM] CS: Image
—> I showed him a screenshot of someone complaining about him before

[4/6/16, 12:07:55 PM] Jing Services: not sure about this guy, but his friend has bought up with hacked account
[4/6/16, 12:07:59 PM] Jing Services: but then i didn't passed on
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[4/6/16, 12:12:03 PM] CS: just want to make sure we clarify beforehand what you don't approve
[4/6/16, 12:12:11 PM] Jing Services: yeah, i will tell you exactly
[4/6/16, 12:12:23 PM] Jing Services: there is difference between blackhat, greyhat and illegal
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[4/6/16, 12:16:26 PM] Jing Services: dating is allowed, like i said no adult offers
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I sent him more screenshots about people complaining about his services:
[4/6/16, 12:18:02 PM] CS: Image
[4/6/16, 12:18:36 PM] Jing Services: i am sure these guys see post, they just signed up under username
[4/6/16, 12:18:40 PM] Jing Services: and posting accussation
[4/6/16, 12:18:43 PM] CS: Image
[4/6/16, 12:18:51 PM] Jing Services: anyone who got scammed will get post to shit list
[4/6/16, 12:18:54 PM] Jing Services: i asked to post to shit list
[4/6/16, 12:18:58 PM] Jing Services: because i wont refund for sure
[4/6/16, 12:19:52 PM] Jing Services: if you see the usernames, you can see it clearly they just signed up to post
[4/6/16, 12:19:56 PM] Jing Services: but it is just one client
[4/6/16, 12:20:42 PM] Jing Services: anyways even though i explain, it wont find solution.
[4/6/16, 12:21:02 PM] CS: Alright...I'll take the risk
[4/6/16, 12:23:11 PM] CS: If you say "yes" now and "no" later to the campaigns we just discussed you'd have to refund me
[4/6/16, 12:23:26 PM] Jing Services: i will support to you as long as it is no adult campaigns
[4/6/16, 12:23:32 PM] Jing Services: so it will work entirey
[4/6/16, 12:23:36 PM] Jing Services: that will be my responsibility
[4/6/16, 12:25:15 PM] Jing Services: i will make sure we get your campaigns running, and how much can you scale on it?
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[4/6/16, 12:30:30 PM] CS: Still scrptical that you can start with $200 right away
[4/6/16, 12:30:34 PM] CS: sounds too good to be true
[4/6/16, 12:30:45 PM] Jing Services: well it is not an new account, so basically you know
[4/6/16, 12:31:04 PM] Jing Services: but old accounts and agency doesn't need to have warm up
[4/6/16, 12:31:14 PM] Jing Services: if that so, there would not be advertisers who spend up 5k in a day from start 1
[4/6/16, 12:31:51 PM] Jing Services: when you see in live, you will definetly feel it worth
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[4/6/16, 12:31:58 PM] CS: all this sounds good. If it works you seem to have the best Adwords offers out there.
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[4/6/16, 12:32:44 PM] CS: ok, let's test then
[4/6/16, 12:32:47 PM] Jing Services: alright
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[4/6/16, 12:58:05 PM] Jing Services: try using xoom
[4/6/16, 12:58:40 PM] Jing Services: send 900 and add 18$ as fee
[4/6/16, 12:58:49 PM] Jing Services: so it covers the fee
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[4/6/16, 1:33:57 PM] Jing Services: how is it going on?
[4/6/16, 1:34:28 PM] CS: still in "processing" status
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[4/6/16, 3:17:24 PM] CS: real pain. They called me, asked a lot of questions and I still have to wait for further response
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[4/6/16, 3:35:34 PM] CS: ok, its' now done. approved and payment will be processed now.
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[4/6/16, 3:37:39 PM] Jing Services: alright, so it may take like 4-5 hours or more
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[4/7/16, 12:21:53 AM] Jing Services: hey, you there?
[4/7/16, 12:27:37 AM] Jing Services: are you there?
[4/7/16, 1:07:46 AM] Jing Services: Hello?
[4/7/16, 1:23:09 AM] Jing Services: are you there?
[4/7/16, 1:45:51 AM] Jing Services: I need to talk to you asap
[4/7/16, 2:17:39 AM] Jing Services: are you there?
[4/7/16, 2:18:57 AM] Jing Services: ?
[4/7/16, 5:41:42 AM] Jing Services: Hello
[4/7/16, 6:42:10 AM] CS: I'm here. It's 8am in the morning now
[4/7/16, 6:48:45 AM] Jing Services: Hey, I need to talk something important
[4/7/16, 6:52:15 AM] Jing Services: first of all I got in contact with the agency, well they said that they are having 10k invoicing accounts, and they said they don't have starter accounts at moment, more about invoicing accounts : so far I have managed to talk with them and convince but couldn't get with cloaker at this cost, because there is an change of cost from the 1st april 2016, so I would say them to initiate refund back to the xoom so you get refund back to card, and once you received, I will give fresh cost and we continue, moreover they have said the accounts are having ready to go and already have campaigns exhausted.
[4/7/16, 6:54:32 AM] CS: Not sure if I understand. Basically you are saying you can't run anything as promised and therefore refund the money?
[4/7/16, 6:54:57 AM] CS: Not great, since we spend a lot of time on this yesterdy, not sure why this information was shared before
[4/7/16, 6:55:06 AM] Jing Services: well I shared this campaign with them
[4/7/16, 6:55:16 AM] Jing Services: then they told that this campaign must need to be run in uk account
[4/7/16, 6:55:17 AM] CS: Please refund the full amount (no fees or anything) as soon as possible
[4/7/16, 6:56:36 AM] Jing Services: well the cost is overall 1150, so once you received refund, you can decide if the costs gonna suit you, moreover there is a promotional spend of 250, they are giving, so that is good news
[4/7/16, 6:56:41 AM] Jing Services: but I checked with the agency
[4/7/16, 6:56:51 AM] Jing Services: and they clearly said that the campaign is eligible
[4/7/16, 6:58:23 AM] Jing Services: and also you can ask confirmation with them at xxx, about whether the campaign is eligible and which country account it will work great
[4/7/16, 6:58:56 AM] CS: Still confusing to me. How are you connected to whom? Is this a 3rd part agency? What do I get for the price?
[4/7/16, 6:59:05 AM] CS: This is very confusing, this back and forth
[4/7/16, 6:59:11 AM] Jing Services: ok I will explain
[4/7/16, 6:59:18 AM] CS: so you work with an Indian and UK agency?
[4/7/16, 6:59:55 AM] Jing Services: yes, I get them clients and I take commission on the ad spend
[4/7/16, 6:59:58 AM] Jing Services: and I manage the campaigns
[4/7/16, 7:00:34 AM] Jing Services: And I manage the accounts and every part
[4/7/16, 7:00:41 AM] CS: But the money I sent yesterday went to the Indian agency
[4/7/16, 7:00:42 AM] Jing Services: and for the price, there will be an manager account with 2 sub accounts
[4/7/16, 7:00:45 AM] Jing Services: yes
[4/7/16, 7:00:47 AM] Jing Services: that's right
[4/7/16, 7:00:52 AM] Jing Services: I gave direct details for payment
[4/7/16, 7:00:56 AM] Jing Services: so that it will be fast
[4/7/16, 7:01:04 AM] Jing Services: and I take commission at the campaign budget spent
[4/7/16, 7:01:13 AM] Jing Services: when it starts running, they pay me in bitcoins
[4/7/16, 7:01:19 AM] Jing Services: and neteler
[4/7/16, 7:01:46 AM] Jing Services: so we get account with the indian agency
[4/7/16, 7:01:52 AM] Jing Services: who has accounts in india and uk
[4/7/16, 7:02:10 AM] Jing Services: and have approved in both the counties
[4/7/16, 7:02:42 AM] CS: it's the same provider? But in the UK the price and banking information is different?
[4/7/16, 7:02:51 AM] Jing Services: yes, it is the same indian agency
[4/7/16, 7:02:54 AM] CS: What about the service?
[4/7/16, 7:02:59 AM] Jing Services: but they have account in uk and banking they handle
[4/7/16, 7:03:09 AM] CS: I mean still everything we discussed stayes the same?
[4/7/16, 7:03:11 AM] Jing Services: regarding service, ad approvals and ad management, I will take care
[4/7/16, 7:03:20 AM] Jing Services: yes, everything remains the same, just I will handle the part
[4/7/16, 7:03:23 AM] Jing Services: and as agreed, they remain same
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[4/7/16, 7:05:40 AM] CS: Let's refund first. I'll review the notes again and get back to you.
[4/7/16, 7:05:50 AM] Jing Services: alright
[4/7/16, 7:05:56 AM] Jing Services: i will inform them
[4/7/16, 7:07:09 AM] CS: Please make it painless. I'd love this initiated today (full amount please, no deduction of fees or anything - whatever I paid I'd like to get back in full). Anything else will damage any trust severely. Hope this makes sense.
[4/7/16, 7:07:18 AM] Jing Services: yeah definetly
[4/7/16, 7:07:28 AM] Jing Services: no deduction of fees or anything
[4/7/16, 7:07:54 AM] Jing Services: but today it cannot be initiated, because the banking time is completed
[4/7/16, 7:07:58 AM] Jing Services: they cannot initiate online
[4/7/16, 7:08:02 AM] Jing Services: it needs to be done from bank
[4/7/16, 7:08:33 AM] CS: please keep me posted in the morning India time
[4/7/16, 7:08:36 AM] Jing Services: i will inform them to initiate the next time the bank opens
[4/7/16, 7:08:39 AM] Jing Services: yeah sure
[4/7/16, 10:34:20 AM] Jing Services: are you there?
[4/7/16, 10:35:12 AM] Jing Services: just to let you know tomorrow there is a bank holiday in india
[4/7/16, 10:35:17 AM] Jing Services: you can check on google
[4/7/16, 10:35:30 AM] Jing Services: The agency has informed me now
[4/7/16, 10:39:32 AM] Jing Services: are you still there?
[4/7/16, 10:40:42 AM] Jing Services: also in xoom, there is no refund, so you need to provide the wire details
[4/7/16, 10:41:27 AM] Jing Services: rather than that, I have an solution, let me know when you are there
[4/7/16, 1:48:07 PM] Jing Services: are you there?
[4/7/16, 2:04:07 PM] Jing Services: ?
[4/7/16, 2:29:53 PM] Jing Services: Hello?
[4/7/16, 3:10:02 PM] Jing Services: let me know when you are there
[4/7/16, 3:25:29 PM] Jing Services: ?
[4/7/16, 3:50:08 PM] Jing Services: are you there?
[4/7/16, 5:21:19 PM] CS: here
[4/7/16, 8:55:57 PM] Jing Services: hey
[4/7/16, 8:56:09 PM] CS: hi
[4/7/16, 8:56:58 PM] Jing Services: I will need wire details and also I have solution in case if you want to run immediately
[4/7/16, 8:57:30 PM] CS: let me know what the alternative option is for me to consider
[4/7/16, 8:59:14 PM] Jing Services: I am asking to move forward by adding 550 and also we get you axis bank so xoom process instantly. and you can run campaigns in an hour
[4/7/16, 8:59:27 PM] Jing Services: because the accounts are ready to go
[4/7/16, 8:59:50 PM] Jing Services: and in india it is morning time
[4/7/16, 9:00:05 PM] Jing Services: so you can get running quickly
[4/7/16, 9:00:38 PM] CS: not sure. At this point I prefer a refund. We can discuss next week again what exactly you can do.
[4/7/16, 9:00:45 PM] Jing Services: like in an hour and I am confident
[4/7/16, 9:01:15 PM] Jing Services: ok please post refund wire details. it will be initiated on monday
[4/7/16, 9:01:46 PM] CS: I'll send you the details on Saturday. About to be offline and flying tomorrow all day.
[4/7/16, 9:01:52 PM] Jing Services: ok
[4/7/16, 9:02:06 PM] Jing Services: I will inform to cancel
[4/7/16, 9:02:23 PM] Jing Services: the current account and ask for refund
[4/7/16, 9:03:50 PM] CS: Hope this goes smooth. Not ideal that we had to go through this process. But from here on everything needs to go smooth, so I know I can trust on professional services if we move forward with your UK account.
[4/7/16, 9:04:58 PM] Jing Services: well no problem once refund is done I will inform next month if any uk accounts available
[4/7/16, 9:05:10 PM] Jing Services: if available I will inform you
[4/7/16, 9:05:40 PM] Jing Services: definetly I will keep upto the mark and provide on time here after
[4/7/16, 9:09:56 PM] Jing Services: Although I have one request
[4/7/16, 9:11:07 PM] Jing Services: If you still want to proceed, you can able to get them running in less than an hour, because the agency are available, because if you consider for refund, again we cant get an account shortly
[4/7/16, 9:11:14 PM] Jing Services: and the cloaker is also available instantly
[4/7/16, 9:13:30 PM] CS: it's just a sudden increase by another 500. It's still not clear to me why this happened after we agreed already on everything.
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[4/7/16, 9:24:46 PM] CS: the sudden change from our initial discussion raises some concerns for me
[4/7/16, 9:25:01 PM] CS: Therefore I asked for a refund, to see that you guys are trustworthy
[4/7/16, 9:25:15 PM] Jing Services: yeah, like i said, this will be the last time for any chances, next time we will stay upto the mark
[4/7/16, 9:25:35 PM] Jing Services: The only reason is that, i am more keen on providing service, because on refund i don't get nothing, rather if i provide service
[4/7/16, 9:25:37 PM] Jing Services: i get benefit
[4/7/16, 9:25:42 PM] Jing Services: so i take personal guarantee
[4/7/16, 9:25:50 PM] Jing Services: that i will make it work, otherwise i get you refund
[4/7/16, 9:25:58 PM] Jing Services: and even we can keep some time challenge
[4/7/16, 9:26:06 PM] Jing Services: as the campaigns will run in less than an hour or two
[4/7/16, 9:26:16 PM] Jing Services: so even if i fail in that, i don't move it forward
[4/7/16, 9:26:18 PM] CS: I'd just have to trust your word here. Fact is you asked for money, didn't deliver and asked for more money
[4/7/16, 9:26:33 PM] CS: all you say might be true and if what you say is correct I miss out big time
[4/7/16, 9:26:54 PM] CS: but i have to deal with the initial experience, therefore prefer to have a fresh start
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[4/7/16, 9:28:16 PM] CS: You understand why I'm suspicious here?
[4/7/16, 9:28:19 PM] Jing Services: yeah i know
[4/7/16, 9:28:26 PM] Jing Services: when more money is asked, anyone gets suspicious
[4/7/16, 9:28:36 PM] CS: We dicussed almost 2 hours yesterday, I paid and today I need to double up
[4/7/16, 9:28:44 PM] Jing Services: but i am asking you to trust my word that the account works for this campaign 100%, if i failed to do, i will take responsibility to refund
[4/7/16, 9:29:05 PM] Jing Services: yeah i know about it, at moment, i am just asking the matter of trust, and then within an hour
[4/7/16, 9:29:09 PM] Jing Services: once the campaign is started
[4/7/16, 9:29:12 PM] Jing Services: you can login
[4/7/16, 9:29:18 PM] Jing Services: and then see if the ads are running
[4/7/16, 9:29:27 PM] CS: Again, you are working with someone else and have to ask these guys. Who tells me that they want to take responsibility as well?
[4/7/16, 9:29:27 PM] Jing Services: it sounds too good to be true, but i will make it work
[4/7/16, 9:29:48 PM] Jing Services: i am saying you personally that i will get you refund if it doesn't work
[4/7/16, 9:29:53 PM] Jing Services: i am so confident that it will work
[4/7/16, 9:30:10 PM] Jing Services: it will be my part to get your campaigns running up
[4/7/16, 9:30:17 PM] Jing Services: and that will be right today, no delays
[4/7/16, 9:30:34 PM] Jing Services: if doesn't get up, i will cancel, so there is no doubt
[4/7/16, 9:30:43 PM] Jing Services: alright
[4/7/16, 9:30:54 PM] Jing Services: if in case you give a chance
[4/7/16, 9:30:58 PM] Jing Services: i can make sure
[4/7/16, 9:31:01 PM] Jing Services: today i will make it worth
[4/7/16, 9:31:15 PM] Jing Services: and even like i said, everything will be mentioned on account which i gave the details
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[4/7/16, 10:28:10 PM] CS: at this point i'd have to stick to what I already paid. Increasing the price after agreement is problematic to me. But if I see the refund goes back without any issues I will assume it was just an unfortunate mistake and will look into future options with you. I'll send you the wire information on Saturday.
[4/7/16, 10:28:36 PM] Jing Services: Well could you talk once with the agency guy, so i could make sure
[4/7/16, 10:28:46 PM] Jing Services: that the decision is right
[4/7/16, 10:28:48 PM] Jing Services: just a quick call
[4/7/16, 10:29:14 PM] Jing Services: If you still feel problematic after a call with them, i will inform straight away to cancel account
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[4/8/16, 5:54:36 AM] CS: Hi, agreed on the refund. My suggestion was to start with what was already paid. If we do get the traffic that you claimed is possible and I know you are 100% legit I will pay the difference for the initial fee later. This idea was not accepted. So we cannot do anything immediately. I just simply can't just pay more after we agreed already on terms, you owe me to do this solution. If you can't we'll have to do the refund and look into options again later.
[4/8/16, 6:05:24 AM] Jing Services: alright leave it
[4/8/16, 6:05:45 AM] Jing Services: will inform them
[4/8/16, 6:07:02 AM] Jing Services: i was in a hope to get it working but unfortunate
[4/8/16, 6:14:41 AM] CS: Me too! Too bad it didn't work out based on our initial discussion. I can't overlook the changes after agreement and payment, priority is that I see you pay back and can be trusted. Since you don't want me to pay the difference later you trust me either.
[4/8/16, 6:52:00 AM] Jing Services: ok
[4/8/16, 6:52:16 AM] Jing Services: its not about trust
[4/8/16, 6:52:32 AM] Jing Services: if it is trust i would ask to pay full difference
[4/8/16, 6:54:09 AM] Jing Services: i agreed to take my commission later once ads running
[4/8/16, 6:55:45 AM] Jing Services: i should have taken the campaign details before so i should have given exact price
[4/8/16, 7:03:02 AM] CS: I did give you the campaign details before. Please understand my position, I was skeptical, transferred the money anyway, then I got hit with a higher price after I said I liked your deal —> You see my point? Only way for me to see that you are professional is to see the refund. There is no way for me knowing that there is another "catch" once I transferred you more money. Then it might be something else that you didn't see forecoming which requires me to send more money to fix. Nothing to lose for you, if you transfer me my money back we can talk about another deal once you have accounts ready to go. This is the final decision now. Let's reconnect back when the funds have been transferred back.
[4/8/16, 7:46:28 AM] Jing Services: ok
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[4/10/16, 3:36:11 PM] Jing Services: I took back the refund money from indian agency guy
[4/10/16, 3:36:26 PM] Jing Services: the one where you made payment
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[4/10/16, 3:36:39 PM] CS: so are you paying me back?
[4/10/16, 3:36:46 PM] Jing Services: yes, but I need a couple of days
[4/10/16, 3:36:51 PM] CS: why?
[4/10/16, 3:37:00 PM] Jing Services: firstly neteller to my bank takes couple of days around 7-10 days
[4/10/16, 3:37:07 PM] Jing Services: and then I will initiate wire from uk
[4/10/16, 3:37:16 PM] Jing Services: to your personal account
[4/10/16, 3:37:31 PM] CS: Why 7-10 days/
[4/10/16, 3:37:38 PM] Jing Services: i took refund back in neteller, and withdrawn to bank
[4/10/16, 3:37:42 PM] Jing Services: it usually takes 7-10 days
[4/10/16, 3:37:43 PM] Jing Services: one sec
[4/10/16, 3:37:50 PM] CS: What take 7-10 days?
[4/10/16, 3:38:47 PM] Jing Services: It is from neteller
[4/10/16, 3:38:50 PM] Jing Services: who take time to transfer
[4/10/16, 3:38:53 PM] Jing Services: it is not on my hands
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[4/10/16, 3:41:27 PM] Jing Services: it is called member wire
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[4/10/16, 3:42:01 PM] Jing Services: i cancelled the deal and took refund
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[4/10/16, 3:42:18 PM] Jing Services: yes, once the money hits in my bank account, i will send wire to your account from manchester
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[4/10/16, 3:43:11 PM] Jing Services: How long will a Member Wire take to arrive in my bank account?
Member Wire requests will be processed in the order they were received. Due to the high volume of Member Wire request, please allow 2-10 business days for your transaction to be reviewed and processed.
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[4/10/16, 3:43:38 PM] CS: keep me posted proactively on the status
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[4/10/16, 3:44:00 PM] CS: if you hear something from Neteller on stauts please update me on this
[4/10/16, 3:44:05 PM] Jing Services: Alright
[4/17/16, 11:00:29 AM] CS: Hello, can you give me an update please?
[4/17/16, 2:17:46 PM] Jing Services: I am sorry, no update yet.
[4/18/16, 12:00:12 PM] Jing Services: hey
[4/18/16, 12:08:25 PM] CS: Hi, you got news?
[4/18/16, 12:08:48 PM] Jing Services: I will get in 1-2 day, and I will inform you immediately once I get it
[4/18/16, 12:08:56 PM] CS: ok, thanks
[4/18/16, 12:08:56 PM] Jing Services: between, if I give you an account, do you have campaign ready
[4/18/16, 12:09:15 PM] CS: yes, sure
[4/18/16, 12:09:21 PM] Jing Services: hmm, okay.
[4/21/16, 8:24:42 PM] CS: any news?
[4/24/16, 12:40:57 PM] CS: update on payments? Let me know please.
[4/25/16, 11:31:29 AM] CS: hello
[4/26/16, 7:56:44 AM] CS: Hum...can you please give me some feedback asap? Can you please give me status on the payment? Please don't let me chase you, I need to be in the loop on this. What is the hold up? Please let me know. Thanks
[4/27/16, 10:06:01 AM] CS: Hello, I will need to hear back from you today. Can we please "clean this up", then we can talk about Google advertising. But I need to hear back from you today. It's 10-11pm Indian time. Currently you seem to just ignore me. Why?
[4/27/16, 11:48:17 PM] CS: Hello, I know it's around noon your time. I have still not heard back from you. I have to set a deadline until tomorrow end of day my time. Please try to consider my position. I know you've been reading this and chose to ignore. What would you think.
[4/27/16, 11:48:29 PM] CS: I'm chasing you now for 1 week
[4/27/16, 11:49:14 PM] CS: If I don't hear back from I will have to reach out to the blackhat forum to ask for some guidance.
[4/27/16, 11:49:42 PM] CS: So little time...and I have to chase for my money that was not used tho build up any google account and campaigns. :(
[4/28/16, 8:27:11 AM] CS: ?????
[4/28/16, 5:01:21 PM] CS: ?
[4/28/16, 9:10:24 PM] CS: ?
[4/29/16, 7:25:42 AM] CS: Hello
[4/29/16, 9:17:06 AM] CS: Are you going to start a Google campaign or return the money?
[4/29/16, 2:14:03 PM] CS: hello
[4/29/16, 2:14:10 PM] CS: ?
[4/29/16, 2:14:11 PM] CS: ?
[4/29/16, 2:19:27 PM] CS: Look, I'm sure it's not easy to move funds around in India. So then let's move on and make something happen. However, you understand that I cannot transfer any more funds to you before I actually see campaigns up and working. Work with the money you already have. Let me know
[4/30/16, 9:15:03 AM] CS: Hello
[5/1/16, 9:23:41 AM] CS: Hello?
[5/2/16, 8:25:34 AM] CS: Hello
[5/2/16, 6:15:03 PM] CS: Hello?
[5/2/16, 7:50:01 PM] CS: You're there?
[5/2/16, 7:54:38 PM] CS: sick or on vacay?
[5/2/16, 7:54:52 PM] CS: Please give a sign you're still with me?
[5/2/16, 9:26:45 PM] CS: let me know when you're online today, so we can have a quick chat.
[5/3/16, 10:44:47 AM] CS: HELLO??
[5/3/16, 6:27:22 PM] CS: You're there?
[5/3/16, 11:19:11 PM] CS: Call - unable to reach this contact
[5/4/16, 9:59:12 AM] CS: hello?
[5/4/16, 6:17:21 PM] CS: Hello
[5/5/16, 9:59:14 AM] CS: Hello
[5/5/16, 9:59:22 AM] CS: can you please get back to me asap
[5/5/16, 2:19:34 PM] CS: Can you return the money please?
[5/6/16, 3:42:44 PM] CS: feedback?
[5/6/16, 3:43:22 PM] CS: Did you set up a campaign already, huh?
[5/7/16, 7:30:24 PM] CS: Hey, just a heads up, I will get your account banned on blackhat as a first step. If this is relevant to you please get back to me within the next 6 hours.
 
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You need to tick the 'I Agree' box at the bottom of the screen when you try to open a new Shit list thread.


Oh man...yeah, that was it. Thanks!

On the question regarding why paying some random person without website. Agreed, it does not sound smart.
But some blackhat methods (account farming) can't be offered in the open. This guy and other providers are on here for years sometimes and I figured if they survive here without ban it's worth a try. I was wrong on this.
 
Moved the thread to the Shitlist section

jing87 has been notified he has 48 hours to respond.

@ChrisSch you asked why he's not already banned. Because there has been no SL or other reason to ban him up until this point.
Also, the reason you were getting that error message was that you didn't check the check box at the bottom of the page, which shows that you have read and agree to the SL rules.

OS
PS. Reminder to all who have current issues, keep it PROFESSIONAL. No name calling or other insults.

Reminder to everyone else:
Shit list rule #4:
If you are not directly related to the situation, or are not offering information directly related to the situation: do not post in the thread.
 
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I have not received any response form Jing87
Have you?
 
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