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Safe Youtube Videos Uploads

Discussion in 'Social Networking Sites' started by liberpax, Oct 28, 2009.

  1. liberpax

    liberpax Registered Member

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    My technic is to upload only one single video per account on Youtube. No more than 1 video on 1 account.

    I outsource my Youtube accounts creation (one different IP for each acccount creation, so far so good).

    After that, I have to upload my videos, hmm.

    So I want to use proxies everytime I upload a new video. I want Youtube think that all my videos come from another user (one different user for one video/account in Youtube eyes)
    I am really trying to understand how to use proxies and I have to admit, I'm so lost !
    First, in French I don't get the thing so you can imagine in English...!

    I know there are a lot of kinds of proxy systems and I don't know what to do.
    I've tried to undesrtand proxies for a looooong time, I read a lot on BHW, DP, others forums in English, French, Google etc... I asked a few questions but... no, I don't get it.

    * I already tried TOR. I know it works but it was just for a test (I just remarked that I was on Google.ca, 2 mn later on Google.co.uk etc, that's all).
    So I know it could be a good one but there is a few issues (mostly with Youtube). As they say on the official website :


    So, for Youtube videos uploading, TOR doesn't seem to be good, is it ...?

    Please, could you give me a hand and explain me how I could upload my Youtube Videos with a good proxy system ?

    It would be so helpful if you could explain me precisely how to do it working (just concerning my youtube vids upload problem, I'm sure it's easy but I missed it).

    Thanks a LOT in advance !

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  2. blackhit

    blackhit Super Moderator Staff Member Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Instead of using proxies to look like a different user you could use:

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    www.tubemogul.com
    The originating IP will be TM's, not yours.

    The only extra work involved is creating a new TM account for every vid.
     
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  3. minute80

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    Does youtube kills multiple videos from tubemogul?
     
  4. dheer

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    Use HideMyIP software. easy to use easy to integrate
     
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  5. minute80

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    HideMyIp is slow as hell (Tor is slower). It would take an eternity to upload serious content with it.
     
  6. blackhit

    blackhit Super Moderator Staff Member Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    No, I upload all my vids through TM.

    Every month only about 2% of my vids get deleted and I have near 600 vids (and rising) online constantly on YT.

    In 98% of cases where a vid gets banned the rest of the vids in the account remain untouched.

    When a vid or an account gets deleted it's because of flagging on YT, not because it was uploaded through TM.
     
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    allrecycle Regular Member

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    so you make 1 video per account???or all 600 videos under 1 account?
     
  8. SpazzyMcSpazz

    SpazzyMcSpazz Regular Member

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    you can use multiple yt accounts with one tubemogul
    and why are you uploading just 1? You can upload 2, they only delete the account after 3 strikes
    Just don't upload sexy vids through tubemogul (or maybe it's just videos that get deleted a lot), they will refuse to upload after a while.
     
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  9. liberpax

    liberpax Registered Member

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    Thank you all for your answers.

    I used to use Traffic Geyser and I know they are working with a lot of different IP's for videos submissions.
    Don't you think TM does the same ? Is it working with the same IP everytime ?

    Yes, exactly, I just have to change the log and the password in TM, but the
    question is, can Youtube detect that I send multiple vids on MULTIPLE Youtube
    accounts but from the SAME Tubemogul account ? (that's why I wonder if I have to
    create multiple tubemogul accounts or not).

    Do you mean they delete accounts after 3 videos uploads ?!
     
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    Guys how much videos is save to upload per account on youtube?
     
  11. liberpax

    liberpax Registered Member

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    Yes, I would like to know too.

    However, even if I don't know the answer, there are 2 ways :

    1. You upload 1 or 2 vids per account using proxies. So you take more time to
    set it up but if your account is deleted, only one video will be deleted.

    2. You upload 10 vids on each account using proxies. So you save time but if
    your account is deleted, you lose 10 videos !

    I prefer the 1. :)

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  12. blackhit

    blackhit Super Moderator Staff Member Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I upload 4-6 vids per account.

    Sometimes when I expect a lot of traffic from a vid I have multiple versions of the vid.
    Each one of these gets its own YT account.

    So when an account gets flagged I only lose 1 vid and I secure my traffic with the remaining vids on the same (hot) topic.
     
  13. blackhit

    blackhit Super Moderator Staff Member Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Don't you think TM does the same ? Is it working with the same IP everytime ?

    I don't know about that.

    Just keep in mind that TM is a respectable well known site with the purpose of making it easy to upload your vid to multiple video-sites. The majority of these vids will be vids that comply to the TOS of the vid-sites.
    It's not only used by blackhatters.

    Uploading through TM, being it from different or the same IP's, doesn't raise red flags. Furthermore due to the massive amount of vids uploaded through TM it's impossible for the vid-sites to add extra inspection on these vids.
    You flow with all the whitehat vids...

    if I have to
    create multiple tubemogul accounts or not


    I don't take any risk when uploading a batch of vids.
    So to be sure nothing is connected to former vids I create a new TM account for every upload. The time spend on this is minimal.
    It's just a routine:
    1.) create vid accounts
    2.) create TM account
    3.) upload

    Do you mean they delete accounts after 3 videos uploads ?!

    This is a misconception. Your account can be banned after only one strike.
    When you're unlucky they inspect the rest of the vids in the account when 1 is flagged.
    Sometimes YT bans the vids, sometimes they ban the account right away. I haven't discovered a pattern in this yet. Seems to depend on the mod that takes a closer look at your account. (and yes, sometimes they take the trouble of inspecting your account instead of just automatic banning 1 vid).

    Don't worry about this too much. I have experienced a complete ban on only 2% of my accounts.
    Most of the time I only got one of my vids banned and the rest stays online.
    It 's all rinse and repeat.
    You get banned...you create new accounts and upload again.
     
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  14. liberpax

    liberpax Registered Member

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    Thanks a lot Blackhit for all the time you took for me, your advices are great and very rassuring. I really think this is the best method.

    Have a great day !

    Eva
     
  15. blackhit

    blackhit Super Moderator Staff Member Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    @liberpax

    No prob...that's what this board is about.
    Sharing useful info that helps others on their way to...

    You took your time to phrase your question/problem and that deserves a detailed answer.

    One tip for the road:

    Video marketing on YT is a numbers game.
    The more vids you have up and the more niches you are covering the greater chance of success...

    And if you like playing around with vids, like I do, it's a great way of making money...

    Oh yeah...one more revelation.
    Would you believe I never use proxies to create my accounts?
    I've been doing this now for 2 years all from the same IP and I'm still going strong.

    And just case my IP gets blacklisted one day I have enough private proxies ready to keep the machine running.
     
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  16. liberpax

    liberpax Registered Member

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    :)


    Yes, I have to admit it is astounding ! Maybe they don't care about the IP you
    use for subscriptions, but they do care about the IP you use for videos
    submissions.
    I only see this explaination because it is amazing : you have uploaded about 600
    vids and you upload 4-6 vids per account, hich means that you have about 100-150
    accounts created with the same IP ! In these proportions, we cannot call it luck,
    there is something very obscure about Youtube and Google, for sure ;)

    But I have one question : how do you promote all those videos ?!
    I'm not asking for your exact technics, even it could help me a lot, but I'm very
    curious.
    Do you create backlinks yourself (blog commenting/forums, bookmarking, etc),
    do you drive traffic by another way ?

    For my part, my disadvantage is I cannot create real content in good English, I
    wouldn't have credibility... so I will have to outsource my backlinks building.
    That's the main reason why I learn everything I can to get my videos/accounts not deleted :
    if I pay someone to build my backlinks and after a few weeks my video/account is deleted,
    I lose money, I waiste my time and efforts.

    Here is the reason I'm very carefull before doing mistakes, so I ask the most questions I can on BHW.
    In France, we have this maxim "Mieux Vaut Prévenir que Guérir" and I think you have about the same in USA.
    Litteraly translated, it means something like "Anticipation is Better Than Healing/Repairing".

    But I know I have to take some risks very soon. If I don't, I won't do anything !

    Eva ;)

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  17. blackhit

    blackhit Super Moderator Staff Member Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Here's another revelation....:D.... I don't promote my vids.

    They promote themselves and go viral....

    I get this by choosing my niches carefully.

    I research what people want badly...Google Trends is one of my sources for this.

    These niches don't lend themselves for a long-term website but for fast immediate action video promotion they are perfect.

    Some of these trends stay strong and make me money even months after they were hot.

    I do keep an eye on my vids (more precise my "team" does this).

    Whenever the ratings go bad I raise them again.
    Bad comments are denied, good ones allowed.
    Questions in the comments answered to give the impression that the account is alive and kicking.

    You already figured out yourself that I can't disclose my technique/niches in detail but I hope this gives you an idea of a method that makes money on YT constantly.
     
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  18. liberpax

    liberpax Registered Member

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    Yes definitely, and I hope you just rock with your technique.
    And thank you (again ;)) because what you explain give me a bigger picture of the possibilities with Youtube, even if I want (for now) to do the contrary :

    Making vids which last the longest time possible (set/build backlinks and forget :) )
     
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    Very interesting. I think i will try to put a spin on this and see what happens. Thanks for the info!