Russian Footer Links Are Killing It

t0mmy said:
Thats not the hard part lol its more to do with you know the whole russian language barrier thing on sape? plus their backend is tricky even for an russian, we make things simple :)
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Nothing that Chrome's auto-translate and half a brain-cell didn't conquer for me, but each to their own I guess.
 
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Smeems said:
Nothing that Chrome's auto-translate and half a brain-cell didn't conquer for me, but each to their own I guess.
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Yeah I tried that plus a few other translators it didn't go to well for me lots of hassle! I also tried serpzilla but it has no were near the amount of links sape has plus they are alot pricier, thankfully now though I got me my very own russians on board lol :p
 
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t0mmy said:
Thats not the hard part lol its more to do with you know the whole russian language barrier thing on sape? plus their backend is tricky even for an russian, we make things simple :)
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dont forget the dozen or so google reps on there ;)
check the RU forums ppl bitching and moaning about being banned from big G within 72 hours of link placement
not saying its all over the place but still, these places are google spy hotbeds
 
hanssolo said:
dont forget the dozen or so google reps on there ;)
check the RU forums ppl bitching and moaning about being banned from big G within 72 hours of link placement
not saying its all over the place but still, these places are google spy hotbeds
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yeah these are not whitehat links lol of course man if you play with fire you take the risk of being burnt but the rewards when done right far outway the risks, google is here on bhw too monitoring services it doesn't stop the providers here ranking sites daily, these links are powerful theres not much else to it at the moment you just have to be warey of what site you use them on....
 
t0mmy said:
yeah these are not whitehat links lol of course man if you play with fire you take the risk of being burnt but the rewards when done right far outway the risks, google is here on bhw too monitoring services it doesn't stop the providers here ranking sites daily, these links are powerful theres not much else to it at the moment you just have to be warey of what site you use them on....
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yea, the word is that big G has a ton of the links from both cn and ru networks logged, in some cases 100% of networks in others less % (Red China is 100% logged all the urls, over 200,000 sites, its all over weibo and sina)
just seems dangerous to use on any realistic sites but yea if short term 2-3 weeks before a ban, i guess why not -- just seems like a very short term strategy for business
rather think long term IMO
 
hanssolo said:
yea, the word is that big G has a ton of the links from both cn and ru networks logged, in some cases 100% of networks in others less % (Red China is 100% logged all the urls, over 200,000 sites, its all over weibo and sina)
just seems dangerous to use on any realistic sites but yea if short term 2-3 weeks before a ban, i guess why not -- just seems like a very short term strategy for business
rather think long term IMO
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Yeah the word was that SEO was dead recently too, I tend to test and make my own mind up rather than follow a flock :p also I see these links being used on lots of sites that have held top positions for months now, I agree with you long term is good, I also run a very successful long term service here too so I know that, but this stuff is powerful and I like a bit of darkness ;)
 
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hanssolo said:
yea, the word is that big G has a ton of the links from both cn and ru networks logged, in some cases 100% of networks in others less % (Red China is 100% logged all the urls, over 200,000 sites, its all over weibo and sina)
just seems dangerous to use on any realistic sites but yea if short term 2-3 weeks before a ban, i guess why not -- just seems like a very short term strategy for business
rather think long term IMO
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I would agree, but there are guys ranking kw's with a volume of 200K, so lets say they trhow away $400 buying links from Tommy and in one month they make $10k, was it worth it?

Of course it is. We are whitehat in the niche and rank for a very targeted term, we supply the product so there is a difference but the targeted term we rank for gets about 20k searches per month and that kw alone is good for about $1-$2k per day.

Now the broader term at 200k - the amount you lose as an affiliate instead of the provider in my estimation is worth several hundred to low 4 figures daily. To me the math adds up.

I would NEVER use this on my main branded money site, but instead potentially for churn and burn sites. Google slaps them but Google lets them get there in the 1st place
 
t0mmy said:
Yeah the word was that SEO was dead recently too, I tend to test and make my own mind up rather than follow a flock :p also I see these links being used on lots of sites that have held top positions for months now, I agree with you long term is good, I also run a very successful long term service here too so I know that, but this stuff is powerful and I like a bit of darkness ;)
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you got my backing, you're a great guy ;) no question

in terms of 'word on the street' my wording wasnt correct there, i meant the shit is all over RU forums bro, cant post links but im sure ppl can dig up
but yea some blackhat always needed ;) true that
 
Getwhatchuwant said:
I would agree, but there are guys ranking kw's with a volume of 200K, so lets say they trhow away $400 buying links from Tommy and in one month they make $10k, was it worth it?

Of course it is. We are whitehat in the niche and rank for a very targeted term, we supply the product so there is a difference but the targeted term we rank for gets about 20k searches per month and that kw alone is good for about $1-$2k per day.

Now the broader term at 200k - the amount you lose as an affiliate instead of the provider in my estimation is worth several hundred to low 4 figures daily. To me the math adds up.

I would NEVER use this on my main branded money site, but instead potentially for churn and burn sites. Google slaps them but Google lets them get there in the 1st place
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bro no question
i guess im a bit oldschool with the 'gaming the system' idea
always think that long term branding and building via proper methods is smarter -ill get ripped for this on BHW hahaha but a lot of guys here would live much happier lives by providing the best for the user and building long-term potential :)
 
hanssolo said:
bro no question
i guess im a bit oldschool with the 'gaming the system' idea
always think that long term branding and building via proper methods is smarter -ill get ripped for this on BHW hahaha but a lot of guys here would live much happier lives by providing the best for the user and building long-term potential :)
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I agree, we have a branded site, all white hat guest post links and lots of social interaction, google allowed us to drop due to neg seo. So playing by their rules got me exactly zilch last month, thank god for affiliates and Yahoo/bing. So we continue to play by their rules on that site but that does not mean I am not looking at "other" avenues.
 
Getwhatchuwant said:
I agree, we have a branded site, all white hat guest post links and lots of social interaction, google allowed us to drop due to neg seo. So playing by their rules got me exactly zilch last month, thank god for affiliates and Yahoo/bing. So we continue to play by their rules on that site but that does not mean I am not looking at "other" avenues.
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yea it happens a lot unfortunately; penguin was a big mistake on Googles part IMO ; panda was right on the money but penguin opened the door to a lot of negative seo and other BS

but you know bro, im one of those positive thinkers; long term if you do things right, it will pan out correctly; sure that might make me a douche to some but i think all problems have a solution
god knows i know so many fly by night ops , from mortgage leads to other nonsense always Blackhatting always coming to an end very very very fast
 
Agreed, we have not given up building back up our site that was hit. Every day I see links dropping off in majestic so that is a good sign that the spam is not sticking might take us another month or two to get back to page 1 but in the 3-4 months that someone took the spot we occupied they made an additional $60k p/month and we lost that same amount. But like you, I am no quitter and want to do thing the "right" way but I am not blind to other avenues so we will test and see what the results are.
 
and you know what? That Matt from GoOgle should do something about these crazy rankings
 
I looked at serpzilla, seems expensive. It's similar to HPBacklinks.com except they sell inventory on inner pages too and you can insert surrounding text. That means you can target your keywords without including them in the anchor.

But, I registered for free and could freely browse all of the domains in the network. Soooo...If you're into the churn and burn, this seems like a good strategy. But if Google wanted to, it wouldn't be hard to set a bot through the serpzilla site to log all the domains selling links.

I'm definitely considering the service for SAPE by Tommy. Ordered stuff from him in the past and it's always been good. But will certainly point these links to a micro-money site rather than a brand page.
 
Can any americans using sape post results? Sorry if I missed that type of comment in this thread. Thx
 
Stizerg said:

Yes, the Russian forum you read where ppl complain about deindexation.
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sorry bud, i dont give out any links at all, as big G is all over these forums
noticed ppl throw out more and more links now, free meat for G

also, any place you can browse the urls openly after sign up, G has already indexed all of them as spam and monitors closely
 
hanssolo said:
also, any place you can browse the urls openly after sign up, G has already indexed all of them as spam and monitors closely
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So it will be verry easy to buy few links for the competition and get their sites deindexed?

Bulshits!

I use sape from 3 years i don't have not even one deindexed website.
 
Supposedly serpzilla is the us/euro spin off sape, i'm going to look it over and let you all know in a few...
 
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