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Doing a lot of testing and had a working method for YT views as of about 3 days a go..

Basically I'm moving on from that and wondering what is the key request or part of a request in Wireshark that tells me a view has been counted by Youtube when viewing from an RTSP link...

I'm not asking for any method here! Just wondering if someone can shed some light on what exactly is telling me a view has been counted (or should be, as obviously YT filtering happens). Just so I'm not wasting time...

I'll happily sort someone out with a bot if I get something working..

Absolutely no way I'm posting anything on here though

If you would rather not tell the entire world.. PM me

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I cant think of a way to tell if the view has been counted or filtered out. Thats something that happens on youtubes servers. You just have to wait it out.
 
Do you know how to execute or run openRTSP in cmd. It shows me an error " 'openRTSP" is not recognized as an internal or external command , operable programs or batchfile " please help
 
The problem is there's no direct response from the server saying the view count. YouTube just hoards the views then they verify then once that's complete they update the counter accordingly. So you could send hundreds of millions of packets to the view server and receive an OK response back, but YouTube might only decide that a single view from that was legitimate and then update it accordingly.



TL;DR YouTube servers don't actually respond back saying if the view counted or not so it's not something one can see in Wireshark. You can though if the server timed out or sent an OK response back in Wireshark which can help a lot.
 
Views count are completely server side. Unless you know someone working for google, theres no way to find if the view was accepted or not.
 
Adam Rock said:
The problem is there's no direct response from the server saying the view count. YouTube just hoards the views then they verify then once that's complete they update the counter accordingly. So you could send hundreds of millions of packets to the view server and receive an OK response back, but YouTube might only decide that a single view from that was legitimate and then update it accordingly.



TL;DR YouTube servers don't actually respond back saying if the view counted or not so it's not something one can see in Wireshark. You can though if the server timed out or sent an OK response back in Wireshark which can help a lot.
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I find it funny how you put a TL;DR version lol.
 
Adam Rock said:
The problem is there's no direct response from the server saying the view count. YouTube just hoards the views then they verify then once that's complete they update the counter accordingly. So you could send hundreds of millions of packets to the view server and receive an OK response back, but YouTube might only decide that a single view from that was legitimate and then update it accordingly.



TL;DR YouTube servers don't actually respond back saying if the view counted or not so it's not something one can see in Wireshark. You can though if the server timed out or sent an OK response back in Wireshark which can help a lot.
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I find it funny how the TL;DR is almost same amount of words as the original...which goes against TL;DR...
YouTube analytics has updated for mobile views also, they now have "Unique Views" info, so they can tell if the views are unique or not.
Example of this: http://gyazo.com/91c4301e888f264eef6bc6f3b204a281
 
Bi0hazard said:
I find it funny how the TL;DR is almost same amount of words as the original...which goes against TL;DR...
YouTube analytics has updated for mobile views also, they now have "Unique Views" info, so they can tell if the views are unique or not.
Example of this: http://gyazo.com/91c4301e888f264eef6bc6f3b204a281
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Nope, it has always been like that (at least I've always been able to see if they where unique)... I don't even think they track unique views on RTSP.
 
willo556 said:
Nope, it has always been like that (at least I've always been able to see if they where unique)... I don't even think they track unique views on RTSP.
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Has it? I've never seen it on mobile views before, but that must be what their doing. Allowing only certain amount of views per IP.
 
Bi0hazard said:
Has it? I've never seen it on mobile views before, but that must be what their doing. Allowing only certain amount of views per IP.
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Yeah it defiantly has, for instance I've got a video from February that I blasted and not a single mobile view is unique not even 1, because they don't record if it is unique. And the same goes for videos blasted a few weeks ago.
 
I dont think anyone will share that piece of information. But who knows.
 
Bi0hazard said:
I find it funny how the TL;DR is almost same amount of words as the original...which goes against TL;DR...
YouTube analytics has updated for mobile views also, they now have "Unique Views" info, so they can tell if the views are unique or not.
Example of this: http://gyazo.com/91c4301e888f264eef6bc6f3b204a281
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I'm pretty sure they determine wether or not it's unique by basing it on the cookies (VISITOR_LIVE_INFO). When the html5 mobile views was working, on one video i got:
300000 views
150000 unique views

The reason why the unique views was half of the entire views, was because i had a glitch in the bot which would send the initial stat ping twice (instead of an initial ping + retention pings), thus it would of had the same VISITOR_LIVE_INFO cookie (which would of made the retention ping looks like a complete new view but from the same person).
 
39ster said:
I'm pretty sure they determine wether or not it's unique by basing it on the cookies (VISITOR_LIVE_INFO). When the html5 mobile views was working, on one video i got:
300000 views
150000 unique views

The reason why the unique views was half of the entire views, was because i had a glitch in the bot which would send the initial stat ping twice (instead of an initial ping + retention pings), thus it would of had the same VISITOR_LIVE_INFO cookie (which would of made the retention ping looks like a complete new view but from the same person).
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I agree, the VISITOR_LIVE_INFO gets a new value at some point during the page loading and doesnt change again until you clear cookies. Figuring out how that value is calculated would be nice. Ive tried random strings there but no difference to the amount of views that will count as far as i can tell.
 
yah I agree you have to be a complete youtuber in order to see where the views are coming from , I meant a youtube emplyee
 
kylesol said:
yah I agree you have to be a complete youtuber in order to see where the views are coming from , I meant a youtube emplyee
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SPk is a former employee right? Thats what I heard anyway, maybe he could shed some light onto this!
 
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