Reddit cracking down on upvote services

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Recently Reddit has been cracking down on upvote services. Some services have completely disappeared, some have not been working and others became really unreliable.

It seems like theyre doing something big now

Any thoughts on this? Is the upvote service era over or will it live on forever
 
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Been this way for a good amount of time, upvotes either dropping or straight up getting your account shadowbanned, especially when using SMM panels.
 
pakaza said:
Been this way for a good amount of time, upvotes either dropping or straight up getting your account shadowbanned, especially when using SMM panels.
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I'm talking about the upvote services themself, not the direct consequences of using them
 
shijin said:
I think it'll adapt, not die, the game always changes, but it never stops.
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I think the ROI will be too low and well go into an era of private farms more
 
GrapesOFM said:
I think the ROI will be too low and well go into an era of private farms more
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I still hope that most panel owners will be able to adapt. Because working for Reddit, we've endured countless ban waves and somehow always survived.
 
shijin said:
I still hope that most panel owners will be able to adapt. Because working for Reddit, we've endured countless ban waves and somehow always survived.
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IMO, most will die and those that have adapted will raise their price so high to be profitable that people wont find it interesting anymore. And maybe even the ones that have adapted will die because of not enough people using it

I do think there will always be some type of vote manipulation though since reddit relies on that to rank posts
 
They intend to set a bar to entry into manipulating their platform until they stomp out the services that are trying to do it. In the end it will be like buying links from link farms, doesn’t work. You’ll have to invest the time and effort and expense yourself if you want to try to manipulate your own upvotes. Then they will catch and kill your accounts as well just like they did the sellers of the services.

If they allow people to do this the website is not credible in the eyes of investors and search engines. They have tons of money to put a stop to it and they are doing a good job. Yes it’s going to become very difficult even for the person with their own accounts.
 
Zombie Pop said:
They intend to set a bar to entry into manipulating their platform until they stomp out the services that are trying to do it. In the end it will be like buying links from link farms, doesn’t work. You’ll have to invest the time and effort and expense yourself if you want to try to manipulate your own upvotes. Then they will catch and kill your accounts as well just like they did the sellers of the services.

If they allow people to do this the website is not credible in the eyes of investors and search engines. They have tons of money to put a stop to it and they are doing a good job. Yes it’s going to become very difficult even for the person with their own accounts.
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I wonder where they draw the line between real genuine upvotes and manipulated ones. Hopefully this doesnt just add on to the wrongful bans that happens all the time on Reddit
 
GrapesOFM said:
Recently Reddit has been cracking down on upvote services. Some services have completely disappeared, some have not been working and others became really unreliable.

It seems like theyre doing something big now

Any thoughts on this? Is the upvote service era over or will it live on forever
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The bar will have to be raised way higher than it is now, and very soon
 
GrapesOFM said:
I wonder where they draw the line between real genuine upvotes and manipulated ones. Hopefully this doesnt just add on to the wrongful bans that happens all the time on Reddit
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Wrongful bans happen on all social media sites, but they are usually not wrongful, it's people like us who manipulate them and get caught.
 
A few weeks ago I placed a reddit post with the link to my website, in a few days I decided to buy 3 upvotes...
My post disappeared after it :(

It looks like some reddit accounts can be very toxic.
 
BassTrackerBoats said:
Wrongful bans happen on all social media sites, but they are usually not wrongful, it's people like us who manipulate them and get caught.
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Reddit is known for banning real users thinking they are bots. Happens all the time. Appeals in those cases are usually granted, but they still happen a ton
 
GrapesOFM said:
I wonder where they draw the line between real genuine upvotes and manipulated ones. Hopefully this doesnt just add on to the wrongful bans that happens all the time on Reddit
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I don’t know because I don’t care about it enough to find the footprints in a service like that. But I can guarantee they have a reliable algorithm that can detect this kind of manipulative behavior from accounts.

If it was me developing it I would add a cooldown period on accounts that have fallen into a questionable status but not confirmed manipulative, and that may or may not be manipulating upvotes or other services. So during cooldown votes are shadow banned. If the behavior that got the account in questionable status continues during cooldown it either remains shadow banned or is banned . They get so many sign up’s everyday it’s easy to say fck your account when or if they are wrong.

If you are getting caught by algorithm that detects manipulative behavior then you’re doing something wrong in the first place that is not statistically considered normal user behavior. They have plenty of years of statistical data for what is statistically normal. And I bet statistics is what the algorithm is based on.
 
BassTrackerBoats said:
Wrongful bans happen on all social media sites, but they are usually not wrongful, it's people like us who manipulate them and get caught.
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From times to times, Reddit is just wrong, without any reason. 2 days ago I couldn't accessed the site because it simply blocked my access (fortunately, I wasn't logged into any account, and accessed a general information from a new mobile device). I had to rotate the IP (real sim) and tried to access from another browser. In that context, I was like a genuine user who wants to access their data, but couldn't do it because their AI filters.
 
GrapesOFM said:
Recently Reddit has been cracking down on upvote services. Some services have completely disappeared, some have not been working and others became really unreliable.

It seems like theyre doing something big now

Any thoughts on this? Is the upvote service era over or will it live on forever
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We'll find a way around it mate
 
Well, its time to separate the big boys from the incompetent ones with shitty scripts and no substance and the whole reseller ecosystem. Same happened to tiktok followers and all.

Soooo whats bad?

This community, it has it in its freaky name, should not be copying other peoples ideas and be resellers, it should be the trendsetters, the folks who come up with new solutions.

Do not think that Reddit , Google and so a dumb, they employ thousand, ten of thousands engineeers and devs. Gotta be creative.

So what is the problem here, nobody has the ability to create and launch an array of profiles via anti detect , even submit posts and do targeted upvoting?

Is this where we at? This would take me perhaps 5 days of serious work and the thing would be ready to deploy and Reddit would never be the wiser and detect that.
 
theusualkeysersoze said:
Well, its time to separate the big boys from the incompetent ones with shitty scripts and no substance and the whole reseller ecosystem. Same happened to tiktok followers and all.

Soooo whats bad?

This community, it has it in its freaky name, should not be copying other peoples ideas and be resellers, it should be the trendsetters, the folks who come up with new solutions.

Do not think that Reddit , Google and so a dumb, they employ thousand, ten of thousands engineeers and devs. Gotta be creative.

So what is the problem here, nobody has the ability to create and launch an array of profiles via anti detect , even submit posts and do targeted upvoting?

Is this where we at? This would take me perhaps 5 days of serious work and the thing would be ready to deploy and Reddit would never be the wiser and detect that.
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Question is why did it take them this long to crack down on this? What was the holdup
 
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