Recycling pop-under traffic through redirects

arthur_dent

arthur_dent

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Hey Guys - Kind of noob here.

But haven't anybody thought of recycling popunder traffic bought from popads and several pop-under websites selling cheap traffic. After few redirects referral information is anyway lost, and it will also significantly reduce bots traffic and hence increasing the quality of traffic.

Although it still might not be good enough for adsense given our big brother is always watching where the traffic coming from, but rest of the guys like CPA networks, Native ad networks wouldn't be able to identify where this traffic originally redirected from.

Make sense ?
 
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I can't imagine popunder traffic can get any real results. The only thing you can do with it is to make you feel you have big website :} .You can sell adds on your website claiming you have a lot of traffic (which is not targeted at all). Also playing with adsense to cheat the system is like to step on frozen lake ... the ice can brake and you will die.
 
Thansk Tobhi. Adsense is surely out of the equation. What about use it for CPI ?
 
you said redirects, what about using that traffic for mobile redirect ads..you buy the traffic for 10$ and get 15$ from another network.. i think that might work
 
Rather just use fakerrefer.com... You got any native ad sponsor suggestions though?
 
lilares said:
Rather just use fakerrefer.com... You got any native ad sponsor suggestions though?
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Someone wrote about this topic very detailed in the forum. Ads arbitage or smth... can't really remember what was. there was also free ebook to learn about this method.
 
tophi said:
Someone wrote about this topic very detailed in the forum. Ads arbitage or smth... can't really remember what was. there was also free ebook to learn about this method.
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Could you please post a link to the thread
 
arthur_dent said:
@IMustMakeIt - Yeah, even better, use them for CPI. Do you have experience with this ?
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no but i have been thinking of something similar, 2 redirects and the chain won't be tracked, google maybe tough but i don't think other ad networks will be as tough as the big G ... the traffic i was thinking of using this on dosn't do well with cpa,cpi so i can't really tell.. but in theory it should work because the purchased pop traffic will be targeted and geo specified the only downside to this is that pops " logically" have less conversion rate.


PS : i am a noob.

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I have been thinking on this. I think even big G should not have any problem. Think about it. Consider a case of legitimate adsense website, and a user hoping from one website to another, and in this chain landing on such pop under, and then moving further hoping from one website to another and then landing on our legitimate website. Technically the user is now being redirected from a pop-under, but as a legitimate website owner how am I responsible for this.
In fact, in the world we live in, this is a highly probably scenario and I think millions of such occurrence happen every day.
 
i tend to think that people give google more credit than it deserves like its god or something.. but i thought it might find out about this because of the bounce rate of the popunders .. what do you do when you are on a website and a popup or a popunder show up?! i don't know about you but i close it like in a second and carry on with my destination .. yet again " this is a highly probably scenario and I think millions of such occurrence happen every day".

best way to be sure of this? try, try, try and pm me the results :D
 
Haha. You are absolutely correct. You might be able to filter even less than 1% of traffic but as long as you can keep your economics positive, it could be worked out :) Anyways, I am going to run some experiments on this and will post the results.
 
hey folks.. i've been testing for a couple days now the popunder theory, meaning that i've put Adsense on a site with little content (yet extremely targeted) and send a LOT of pops to it.. US traffic only. So far, the adsense banner is way too high (more than 3%) so I guess Google is going to flag the site for that reason (needless to say that's getting us like 2000$ a day, no kidding and here's a screenshot to prove it: http://www.screencast.com/t/lYaWzazVa but well, we all know that's not going to happen hahah). So yes, I'm ready to burn this account to test the theory, but at the same time, Im getting some stats and ideas about how Adsense works, while trying to convert the products on that page. Do you think that if we dissolve the US pop traffic with a "lower quality" geos traffic, it'll make a difference? Thanks
 
iRunOnNative said:
hey folks.. i've been testing for a couple days now the popunder theory, meaning that i've put Adsense on a site with little content (yet extremely targeted) and send a LOT of pops to it.. US traffic only. So far, the adsense banner is way too high (more than 3%) so I guess Google is going to flag the site for that reason (needless to say that's getting us like 2000$ a day, no kidding and here's a screenshot to prove it: http://www.screencast.com/t/lYaWzazVa but well, we all know that's not going to happen hahah). So yes, I'm ready to burn this account to test the theory, but at the same time, Im getting some stats and ideas about how Adsense works, while trying to convert the products on that page. Do you think that if we dissolve the US pop traffic with a "lower quality" geos traffic, it'll make a difference? Thanks
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I tested similar thing, account banned as usually a few days after the second payment. :) about 700 usd
 
tophi said:
I tested similar thing, account banned as usually a few days after the second payment. :) about 700 usd
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Hahahaha yes, of course.. but well, you know. It's worth a test. Do you still do that? Have you found a way of making it less painful (LOL talking about getting banned every 3 days) And in your case,, did they tell you the reason for the ban?
 
invalid traffic. That's all... also the website had a real visitors who already made some amount of the income for months, so there was not pure spam and fake visitors. I had about 5k real users just tested to mix the traffic for more income.
 
Yeah, I guess that's the problem with popunders, it's mostly shitty bot traffic that will generate a lot of clicks. And of course, Google will ban you. I'm already buying another Adsense account, of course, cause we had also a good website with this account that's going to get banned soon. And we want to keep this site alive. Do you think we can use again our 'clean website' with a new Adsense account? Even if it is related to the banned account?
And BTW.. the reason why Im testing this, is because we know a CPA Network that does the same shit, meaning: putting Adsense in their backup pages (that receive a lot of pop and undesired traffic), and they are still alive. So we have to find out how they do it. Thanks for the answers, mate.
 
iRunOnNative said:
Yeah, I guess that's the problem with popunders, it's mostly shitty bot traffic that will generate a lot of clicks. And of course, Google will ban you. I'm already buying another Adsense account, of course, cause we had also a good website with this account that's going to get banned soon. And we want to keep this site alive. Do you think we can use again our 'clean website' with a new Adsense account? Even if it is related to the banned account?
And BTW.. the reason why Im testing this, is because we know a CPA Network that does the same shit, meaning: putting Adsense in their backup pages (that receive a lot of pop and undesired traffic), and they are still alive. So we have to find out how they do it. Thanks for the answers, mate.
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I'm a bit skeptical, even if your legit website start to generate real money I guess G team is making overvew of the earning websites so soon or late they will connect you with the banned account is "associated account" will get banned (had this case too) . G just don't like people who earn money that's it. Also even the shitty platform recognize bot traffic as well. I read about case where some russian guys steal a LOT of money by generating botnets in the real people computers but G found them with alogo again.. so its a matter of time :)
Thin about, if you have a company and your advertisers get poor results guess what ? They will not advertise on your network = you are screwed. It is in the interest of every company to protect the people who send them food on the table. Yes here and there are some gaps but as I said it's a matter of time someone to manually review the "website that generate so much money"
 
100% agreed. It's just a matter of time. They will eventually catch up. Now Im going to pause this test, and see if I get some $$ out of it. And of course Im not relating my 'clean website' to the new account Im buying, that site is almost 'dead' for Adsense then I guess.
 
iRunOnNative said:
100% agreed. It's just a matter of time. They will eventually catch up. Now Im going to pause this test, and see if I get some $$ out of it. And of course Im not relating my 'clean website' to the new account Im buying, that site is almost 'dead' for Adsense then I guess.
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It will be strange I noticed when sudden drops of traffic appear your adsense account alarm you with big red message.. so guess what ga team sees haha...
 
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