Real Update on the Verification Loop

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For those of you who were not up to date recently, regarding the Instagram verification loop, here's a short summary of what happened:

It's very likely that Instagram did indeed test a new anti spam system – however the fact that a large number of regular users were also having the same issue, makes that questionable.

This issue has already been fixed by some of the automation platforms out there. It's very likely that other issues may come up, but for now we recommend to connect your accounts as soon as possible to store the session, in case something similar happens again.

A few facts:
  • The team on GitHub has been actively trying to scare people, simply because they have worked for free on the library, while some platforms have used it to monetize.
  • The same team on GitHub has released an 'official statement' (really, haha) in which they tried to spread even more misinformation regarding the state of automation. In that 1600 words-essay, they've only repeated the same idea over and over again and didn't bring any proof or proven facts to the case. More so, they've locked the thread (and the previous one) and didn't allow any comments on this topic. Why? They look like the biggest losers now.
  • There's a lot of concern regarding bans lately. Our view on that: automation has been here for a long, long time. We've been through issue like this more than anyone can imagine. None of them resulted in mass-bans before and it's unlikely that it will now. Instagram has always been able to tell users who use automation apart. It's much simpler than you can imagine and they don't need 1 year-worth of data (as the amazing GitHub team is trying to argue), to determine that. The main reason why they will not ban accounts in mass is because it will significantly hurt their business when they present the latest number at the end of the quarter. A 30% loss in engagement and total users would look really bad in their shareholders' eyes. They will lose billions because of this.
  • There have been quite a few fake users here, which are actually the same GitHub team – @freakingout is one of the most active ones. Please take everything you read from those users with a grain of salt.

Simply put, there will always be workaround to any patch/bug/filter. Automation is a huge industry that doesn't only involve hobbyists, but also huge Fortune 500 companies, Hollywood stars, influencers and many more. Everybody is trying to get an edge in the Social Media industry and automation provides a real, tangible advantage.

Don't spread misinformation, don't panic and don't worry about bans or the future of automation! :)
 
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This is the best answer anyone can give. Helps put all the FUD some users are spreading from the Github team at rest.
 
Instaheap said:
however the fact that a large number of regular users were also having the same issue, makes that questionable.
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Prove it. you have a big reason to lie to not scare your bot users who are paying you.... because if this is real antispam (as you say it is too) then your company is fucked

in my research on twitter, every user who said "instagram login" (to look for problems) sorted by time of posting, was all saying "@ some botmaker" every day this went on. i saw no real users .

I hope this is true but i saw no signs of it... whare are your signs?

and about the github developers..... they do this for free, i have more reason to trust them than soneome who sells a bot and is sweating now
 
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freakingout said:
Prove it. you have a big reason to lie to not scare your bot users who are paying you.... because if this is real antispam (as you say it is too) then your company is fucked

in my research on twitter, every user who said "instagram login" (to look for problems) sorted by time of posting, was all saying "@ some botmaker" every day this went on. i saw no real users .

I hope this is true but i saw no signs of it
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We've been through major changes like these more times than you can imagine. We have no concern over being able to offer our services to our clients.

You are not providing any facts here, simply repeating the same false statements from the past days. You are not welcomed here.

As I said, we have solid proof that you are biased in this discussion and we advise everyone to be very careful regarding everything they read from @freakingout and his team.
 
Instaheap said:
As I said, we have solid proof that you are biased in this discussion and we advise everyone to be very careful regarding everything they read from @freakingout and his team.
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Make the proof public if you do.
 
Instaheap said:
We've been through major changes like these more times than you can imagine. We have no concern over being able to offer our services to our clients.

As I said, we have solid proof that you are biased in this discussion and we advise everyone to be very careful regarding everything they read from @freakingout and his team.
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I hope you are right... but lol "freakingout and his team". you sell a bot and are desperate to say anyone who has any other proof is lying..... i am starting to hope this is antispam just to fuck your company. damn paranoid ass

and make the proof public you dick, we are all waiting here! i have 200 accounts ffs and i dont dare to bot more until this is solved
 
BassTrackerBoats said:
Make the proof public if you do.
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His posts are public proof in the first place. :)

An account created the day when the GitHub team started to misinform everyone. Most messages contain blurbs from the GitHub messages posted by those same individuals, 1-2 minutes apart from the moment they were posted on GitHub. Most importantly, very bad acting (e.g: "I am afraid my 200 accounts will be banned. Should I stop automation?").

Everyone has the right to their own opinion and we're not trying to convince anyone. We're just advising people to be careful of what they read from certain people around here.
 
Instaheap said:
His posts are public proof in the first place. :)

An account created the day when the GitHub team started to misinform everyone. Most messages contain blurbs from the GitHub messages posted by those same individuals, 1-2 minutes apart from the moment they were posted on GitHub. Most importantly, very bad acting (e.g: "I am afraid my 200 accounts will be banned. Should I stop automation?").

Everyone has the right to their own opinion and we're not trying to convince anyone. We're just advising people to be careful of what they read from certain people around here.
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He has a right to his opinion as well... that "proof" you are implying is circumstantial at best.

BTW, I've deleted all the promotional aspects of your posts that I have seen.... know that off.
 
Instaheap said:
His posts are public proof in the first place. :)

An account created the day when the GitHub team started to misinform everyone. Most messages contain blurbs from the GitHub messages posted by those same individuals, 1-2 minutes apart from the moment they were posted on GitHub. Most importantly, very bad acting (e.g: "I am afraid my 200 accounts will be banned. Should I stop automation?").

Everyone has the right to their own opinion and we're not trying to convince anyone. We're just advising people to be careful of what they read from certain people around here.
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lol you should work for the fbi. "amazing solid proof" lol.

apparently nobody is allowed to read and quote from github. and if they do they are github staff? omg, incredible logic

of course i created my account the same day, this problem started that day! and i have tried working aroudn the clock to fix it....

you have every reason to lie to protect the bot software you sell........ and which you linked to in this topic
 
BassTrackerBoats said:
He has a right to his opinion as well... that "proof" you are implying is circumstantial at best.
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Fair enough. We never said anyone should take what we say for granted. People can take their own decisions based on the information on the forum.


freakingout said:
lol you should work for the fbi. "amazing solid proof" lol.

apparently nobody is allowed to read and quote from github. and if they do they are github staff? omg, incredible logic

of course i created my account the same day, this problem started that day!

and you have every reason to lie to protect the bot software you sell........ and which you linked to in this topic
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Feel free to negate everything. Ultimately, you've not provided any support to this issue, but instead spread misinformation and cause a lot of drama around here.

Also, I can assure you that as I've already said multiple times, we have no concerns over the status of our service. Those are laughable claims in absence of any solid argument.
 
I just think it's funny how @notasp4mm3r signed up one day, spread the same github FUD, got called out and stopped posting. 3 hours later, @freakingout signs up and continues the same FUD. He's obviously continuously bumping his recent thread as well.
 
Daddykins said:
I just think it's funny how @notasp4mm3r signed up one day, spread the same github FUD, got called out and stopped posting. 3 hours later, @freakingout signs up and continues the same FUD. He's obviously continuously bumping his recent thread as well.
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I have no idea who "notaspammer" is. and apparently I should have waited with my signup so the paranoid asses here didnt think I was connected to someone i dont know? lol, amazing

all I know at this point is that this was something big and insta has more resources than us. i trust github hackers who cracked the API more than i trust some stupid paranoid user or someone desperate selling their bot

Im out, there is no more info to learn here, I will wait for more real info
 
Daddykins said:
I just think it's funny how @notasp4mm3r signed up one day, spread the same github FUD, got called out and stopped posting. 3 hours later, @freakingout signs up and continues the same FUD. He's obviously continuously bumping his recent thread as well.
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They are not the same person.

@notasp4mm3r got silenced actually.
 
BassTrackerBoats said:
They are not the same person.

@notasp4mm3r got silenced actually.
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thank you this is a good point, you can see our ips right? you can prove these guys are lying :\ i dont appreciate these lies. i cant help that i joined after someone, but i am not him! anyway i am gonna wait for more real info, this thread is clearly just an ad for a bot
 
freakingout said:
thank you this is a good point, you can see our ips right? you can prove these guys are lying :\ i dont appreciate these lies. i cant help that i joined after someone, but i am not him! anyway i am gonna wait for more real info, this thread is clearly just an ad for a bot
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You can't possibly be serious. What information have you provided in the past week, apart from copy and pasting GitHub messages and saying how you freak out?

What is your end goal here? You're absurd and do not provide any kind of value on this topic.
 
Thread closed as it has gone so far off track it will be close to impossible to bring back.
 
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