Ranking Case Study (POST PENGUIN 3.0) | 5 CASE STUDIES

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nullfo said:
The site is still indexed on Google (site:xxxxx-xxx.org), so I can't say for sure.

Authority links, average PR of 4, DA/PA of 45 and max OBL of 5 (1-2 usually). The social signals are done using an automated system we had one of our coders from oDesk build. It's our own network, Authority+.

I think #3 will bring the most profits if it resurrects, but that won't be much of a long term site.
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I guess that's your own private network then or did you use something like SAPE? How many of those PR4 links did you add and how fast? I've seen overkill play a role when dealing with high PR links, for example I once gave a site 8 PR5 and 2 PR6 homepage links, all at the same day and nothing happened while for another site that got the same treatment it moved up like a rocket.

I had real poor results with SAPE lately, well actually no results at all, I went for super competitive keywords from #11 and #12 (ranked with my own network) back to page 4 after adding 100 SAPE links from a provider on this forum. Well can't blame him as it did wonders for a friend of mine so...

My first thought when I read this case study was: "The sites probably tank due to Panda before the links kill them" as it are one page sites so could easily have to do with that as well.

Another trend that I see with small / thin sites in combination with high PR links is that the rankings are very jumpy, today you can rank page 1, and tomorrow not in the top 500.
 
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I bet Case Study #3 will be back in less than 72 hours in top20.

$10. 1:1 odds. If you want to call the bet, just mention in the thread :)
 
SEOBS said:
Lol burned before it churned like someone expected.
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It may have burned before it churned like I said, but in SEO it is best to test all for yourself and learn. If we all took everything as fact what people say does and does not work in SEO, we would probably get nowhere.
 
Churn and burn has resurrected! Check back and I'll give you the exact rank for it tomorrow!
 
I am pretty sure they will bounce back. Just how much more powerful it will be
 
Nullfo, Do you scrape your own auto approve list or do you have a provider ? 5 millions AA list per day is just huge !!!

Maybe you're already doing , but you could send the links throught an indexing service; it would improve even better the success of the case #3
 
peterngo91 said:
I am pretty sure they will bounce back. Just how much more powerful it will be
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How's the progress with the list I sent you?

Everybody else, don't PM me asking for the list, I'm tired of 20+ PM's.
 
...and churn and burn is nowhere to be seen.... again
 
nullfo said:
...and churn and burn is nowhere to be seen.... again
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Your list has been great! I made 400k links in the last 24 hours with it lol.

You should stop checking your churn and burn site for awhile, each of these dances will takes up to 24-36 hours to be honest.

Some of my churn and burn sites dance like crazy, but will be stable after 2-3 days.
 
crusher said:
Possible to provide live SERPBook tracking links?

Great case study btw.
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nullfo said:
To all of you complaining about why I don't include more information, more than half of the questions asked were answered more than once in the previous pages.

You're pretty much asking me to reveal my keywords... yeah, not happening.
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One of SERPBook's best feature is you can share a tracking link by hiding the keywords. With such case studies, sharing a rank tracking link is quite an essential part.
 
Oh very nice read. I'm going to keep up with this thread.
 
crusher said:
One of SERPBook's best feature is you can share a tracking link by hiding the keywords. With such case studies, sharing a rank tracking link is quite an essential part.
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I'm using WhatsMySerp because SERPBook doesn't provide live rankings.

Also, a mini update:

Day 4
Study #1 - #175
Study #2 - #99
Study #3 - N/A
Study #4 - N/A
Study #5 - #209

 
First he says...

mickyfu said:
Let me save you the time, it does not work.
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Then he says...

mickyfu said:
It may have burned before it churned like I said, but in SEO it is best to test all for yourself and learn. If we all took everything as fact what people say does and does not work in SEO, we would probably get nowhere.
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This guy switches sides like a politician.

Churn and burn still works great for low and medium competition niches. I have a site ranking #2 for the past 8 months now. I started spamming it 10 months ago with nothing but GSA and it's gotten through every update. Then there are the hundreds of properties I have ranking on youtube, facebook and blogger. Which is more "rank and bank" then "churn and burn". I unscrupulously blast the shit out of these properties and they make me a good deal of money.

I just want newbies to know, if anyone tries to tell you that spam isn't worth your time / doesn't work / can't make you $$$ ... they are FOS.
 
BreaknBrix said:
First he says...



Then he says...



This guy switches sides like a politician.

Churn and burn still works great for low and medium competition niches. I have a site ranking #2 for the past 8 months now. I started spamming it 10 months ago with nothing but GSA and it's gotten through every update. Then there are the hundreds of properties I have ranking on youtube, facebook and blogger. Which is more "rank and bank" then "churn and burn". I unscrupulously blast the shit out of these properties and they make me a good deal of money.

I just want newbies to know, if anyone tries to tell you that spam isn't worth your time / doesn't work / can't make you $$$ ... they are FOS.
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I don't want to be siding with anyone, but if you look in the context in which that was posted in, you'd see what he's trying to get at.

You're including one side of the story.
 
nullfo said:
I'm using WhatsMySerp because SERPBook doesn't provide live rankings.

Also, a mini update:

Day 4
Study #1 - #175
Study #2 - #99
Study #3 - N/A
Study #4 - N/A
Study #5 - #209
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woot so this means social signs actually do have value for google?
 
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