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I have just started learning about Python and I was hoping that someone from here would be able to help me out as I continue my journey. My goal is to create a bot(s) that can work on different platforms, but it might take awhile since I have no coding background:eek:

I know some people study everything and then ask questions but I'm a different learner. I want to ask a question when I need to and not when I'm 20 lessons in & lost. Any mentor? I'd appreciate it forever !
 
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@appProgrammer Thanks for the links, will definetly check them out. Right now I'm on Youtube tutorials and it's going okay so far. Just waiting for the guy to drop some intense knowledge on me before I freak out! Hopefully we can work together on something simple soon since you're working with python a lot. It would be a pleasure. Do you have some simple/basic examples of your work that I can check out, perhaps?

@SpoonFeeder Thanks for the heads up. This community is really helpful and I have no doubt in me that someone won't help me. Any advice on the language itself? what would you say is the number one key to understanding coding in general? patience, practice, or something else?
 
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You won't find any in BHW as it's not allowed but post a thread if you're stuck at something and an army of BHW Python programmers will be happy to assist you.
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As @SpoonFeeder mentions, we don't permit mentoring on here for a number of reasons.

Check out this subforum though; https://www.blackhatworld.com/forums/#programming-web-design.40
 
you might want to reconsider learning python for botting, with google captcha being EVERYWHERE. Why can't we just class-action lawsuit them for training their freaking AI cars under the premise that this is free labor and no other AI car company can compete with human minds. Some people say proxies can get past this, I haven't tested it out, but I went to a friend's house and ran the bot (from the same laptop), I still got flagged with 20 captchas probably because of browser fingerprinting... and there are some browser finger printing methods out there that are secret.

also consider how one site can display a different number of captchas depending if it thinks you are a bot. I am able to hit up a chatsite with a bot, no problem, just solve 10 captchas every hour. Another site detects me almost instantly and wants 20 captchas per post. SO EVEN if I use services like death by captcha or 2captcha it would make the project infeasible or severely cut down on profits.

lets say I charge $20 for 1000 form submissions. normally with death by captcha I would be charged $1.39/1000 captchas. I get 20 captchas per submission. so that translates into $27.8/1000 submissions. That's a net loss. The only thing python can do well now is scrape data, and for that you can just download the script off github (OR better, from BHW) and run it.
 
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Mohamed Habib said:
you might want to reconsider learning python for botting, with google captcha being EVERYWHERE. Why can't we just class-action lawsuit them for training their freaking AI cars under the premise that this is free labor and no other AI car company can compete with human minds. Some people say proxies can get past this, I haven't tested it out, but I went to a friend's house and ran the bot (from the same laptop), I still got flagged with 20 captchas probably because of browser fingerprinting... and there are some browser finger printing methods out there that are secret.

also consider how one site can display a different number of captchas depending if it thinks you are a bot. I am able to hit up a chatsite with a bot, no problem, just solve 10 captchas every hour. Another site detects me almost instantly and wants 20 captchas per post. SO EVEN if I use services like death by captcha or 2captcha it would make the project infeasible or severely cut down on profits.

lets say I charge $20 for 1000 form submissions. normally with death by captcha I would be charged $1.39/1000 captchas. I get 20 captchas per submission. so that translates into $27.8/1000 submissions. That's a net loss. The only thing python can do well now is scrape data, and for that you can just download the script off github (OR better, from BHW) and run it.
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Seems like a dead-end, really. What do you suggest that I do now ?
 
Vano said:
Seems like a dead-end, really. What do you suggest that I do now ?
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Don't run into conclusions just yet as there are 1000 other stuffs you can do with Python. The roadblock @Mohamed Habib talked about is true and applies to all programming languages that are used to automate registrations/log-ins and not just Python.

Checkout https://automatetheboringstuff.com/. It's a godsend to anyone who is new to Python programming and would like to use the language to automate stuffs.

I have/run tons of Python scripts/bots to automate several stuffs and the scripts/bots works on my desktop/servers/macbook and also sends command to my Android Phone which receives the command and automates Android apps and sends the data/result back to the other devices,etc.

As with any programming language, the limitation is usually not on the language itself but the person who uses it.
 
I know some people study everything and then ask questions but I'm a different learner. I want to ask a question when I need to
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Do you dont cate about other people time. Why you expect someone skilled will answer your questions every time you want to Ask question? Its not working like that.

The only thing python can do well now is scrape data/
Pure BS. If you say that you dont know how to code.
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SpoonFeeder said:
Don't run into conclusions just yet as there are 1000 other stuffs you can do with Python. The roadblock @Mohamed Habib talked about is true and applies to all programming languages that are used to automate registrations/log-ins and not just Python.

Checkout this website. It's a godsend to anyone who is new to Python programming and would like to use the language to automate stuffs.

I have/run tons of Python scripts/bots to automate several stuffs and the scripts/bots works on my desktop/servers/macbook and also sends command to my Android Phone which receives the command and automates Android apps and sends the data/result back to the other devices,etc.

As with any programming language, the limitation is usually not on the language itself but the person who uses it.
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Yeah it isn't the language itself, it would be silly to assume so, yet the whole appeal with python to the OP, is to automate and to run bots and scrapers. Let's just be realistic, unless you are the top 90% of coders that can either: create machine learning algos to solve recaptchas, create a bot that emulates a human, and avoids fingerprinting. You can kill that dream right now because you are competing with giant tech firms that want to quash bots. It is not worth the investment to learn an entire language to create bots if the projects you have in mind are not feasible. My advice to anyone would be to go to BHW Marketplace and see how much everything would cost them. How much would proxies cost, bulk emails, recaptcha solvers, etc. Just do the math before investing so much time in learning a new language.

On BHW Marketplace: Linkinsphere is a browser that helps you avoid fingerprinting (does it have a selenium webdriver?), 'cheap captchas' solves recaptchas at a cheap price of 0.39/1000. Capmonster 2 claims to solve recaptchas for $37-$97 a year. If the price is reasonable, then yes, go ahead and learn. I could in theory start out my own bot again because the price of "cheap captchas" is low enough to make my old project feasible again.

Edit: great link, i might re-write a bot using GUI automation.
 
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Apologies if this post is too old. But this is very informative for anyone who is planning to start Python. Thanks!
 
I am also focusingon Python atm, I used DataQuest and Udemy as my main resources.
 
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