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Poor Mans Power Linking

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Scritty, Sep 23, 2010.

  1. Scritty

    Scritty Elite Member Premium Member

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    Darn it, only got 50 bucks a month to spend on linking. Not enough.
    Well, try and scrape a hundred or so to buy a bookmarking tool and scrapebox, then do something like this (adapt the idea below to suit whatever resources/better ideas you have)

    I love acronyms

    Don't you?
    AMR - Alien Mammary Recepticle
    BMD - Brians Mum's Dodgy (and she is...)

    OK, requirements.

    Article Marketing Robot
    Bookmarking tool (demon,wiz, a subscription - whatever)
    Spamming tool (scrapebox -before you shout I KNOW it does more than spamming, but it is rather good at it :) )

    Ok.. What many of you probably don't know about the newest (and biggest and baddest) article marketing tool out there is that it will find and list all the links it makes for you at the back end. A nice CSV file or XML file with 800 to 1000 URL's witho your content on. In fact It will give you the exact URL's of (just about) all your articles.

    Good?

    Now you can ping them once only though for tits sake..pinging 1000 articles on 200+ sites 100+ times will screw your proxies in a matter of minutes. (it's 20 million pings - that's a tad too many - so change the default setting)

    Oh yes, you "can" PING them..so what?

    That might just get Google to shake his indolent head and take a squint at the alarm clock before deciding he's got better things to do and feck off back to sleep again rather than index your crappy link.

    B&$f&£d G&&gl£.

    See my post script for a rant at how utterly twatish this lumbering oaf of a site indexing engine really is.

    Anyway, ping them yes, do ping them. Then bookmark them, then RSS mash them in little groups, then take the ones with PR4 or higher and spray them with cheap 'n' cheerful links (Xrumer or a cheap subscription - ie not Angela's)

    But here's the thing.

    WEB2.0? Link structure (ring or whatever)
    Forget all the usual low PR blogging sites. After the likes of squidoo, wordpress and blogger, most of the rest are lower PR (5,6,7 maybe)

    Guess what.

    You've got 20+ articles on PR 5 and 6 sites!
    And they WANT them to be there
    They ain't NEVER going to be de-indexed.
    They already KNOW the links in your resource box (and maybe one in the body) are commercial

    AND THEY DON'T CARE.

    So juice these suckers up!

    Why buy some shit hole engine that sets up blogs on PR4 sites with a huge risk of either the site deleting your posts for being "too commercial"or the search engines de-ranking the site for being a spam palace when every other bugger posts their shite to it.

    Sure, a nice profile creator for the cream of WEB2.0 sites, but let me tell you, there aren't that many REALLY good ones (PR7+)

    Then the lower PR ones have the cheek to pretend they don't really want your single post blogs that are never updated on them - and delete them.
    But a ton of PR5 and 6 article sites will gobble them up

    Here's the skinny.

    Use AMR to post in THREE stages

    1) Ezine and Ezine alone. This point to your main URL and one inner URL
    Use Myrss feds or similar to make a feed then send it to 100+ sites

    Once Ezine have published and you have done the above bookmark it (a few times ahem) then..

    2) Spin and post to all other sites with PR4 or higher - You can't link ring these as you won't know the URL until they are all posted, but that doesn't matter. You should get 60+articles indexed on these after a few days.

    That's 60 plus links on PR4 or sites or greater.

    Export the URL's RSS mash them and post, ping them, bookmark them with BMD then...

    3) Spin the rest of the articles, add two links to each, one to your site and one to the ezine article (not to the other pr4+ articles). Don't ping these, some will stick others won't. There will be 600+ so it's no big deal. They will be found over time (well some of them)

    Finally, all those nice PR4+ sites you posted to in part 2? Stick the URL's in an autoposting tool (scrapebox will do if set up right) spend an hour setting the tool up with s decent set of blogs/forums or whatever your tool jizzes all over, and set it running overnight.

    These individual URL's WILL get a hammering, some will dissapear for a few days - maybe a few weeks.

    But when they come back (and most WILL come back) you will have set up a decent backlink structure with minimum effort on sURL's that are rock solid, with content that is almost certainly safe from deletion.

    If you have a tool like backlink energizer or something, then hammer that as well.

    Why do this?

    Because it avoids setting up wankingly complex link structures with easily broken and very costly subscription tools that create links in over spammed areas that don't want your single or double post blogs in the first place (and will delete them if they catch on to you)

    Does it work as well?

    No - It doesn't. In the short term it is slower to rank, therefore slower to make money.

    In the medium and long term then?

    No - It works BETTER. mainly because you have so much more stuff out there that is far more secure from deletion or deindexing

    At the end of the day, other than mass bookmarking, it's not really even black hat...

    Scritty

    See below for my rant..or turn away now.

    Ahem, see if you cvan find any more anachronistic balls ups from the "Big G"
    Heres some I found today, and a precis of my thoughts regarding them.
    In the Queens English as usual.

    Pete Sampras is Wimbledon champ is he? According to 2 of the results for "Current Wimbledon Tennis Champ" he is. I've forgotton how long it was since "Pistol Pete" ruled the courts, but to Googoo it was yesterday

    Warcraft 1-70 levelling (sic)

    Hello McFly!!! 3 years ago maybe you "dogs tadger" of an indexing system.
    Typing in "Warcraft Levelling Guides" sees two 1-70 guides on the front page (several years obsolete, and the sites haven't been updated for many years)

    British Prime Minister.

    TONY BLAIR? -Oh come on! He wasn't even the LAST prime minister ffs!!

    Look chaps and chapesses, we are up against a completely incompetant and age biased system when we try and rank in "gobble".
    It forces us to jump through hoops and perform all sorts of shit just to get something simple done like "Our information in front of people who want to see it".

    It ranks size, money and age highly (so if you are small, independent and skint you are screwed)

    OR AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT THEY'D LIKE YOU TO THINK.

    Guess what? Here on BHW a load of us make money off your fat ass-end Googywithers (one for the oldies there).
    And the harder you squeeze the more it will cost you to keep us out - and we will STILL get through...

    All together now

    YEAAARRGGHHHHH FREEEEEDOM

    (ahem sorry)

    Scritty
     
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  2. revekozu

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    Entertaining read. :)
     
  3. imperial109

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    Dude seriously WTF! Can you try to organize your thoughts.

    As for your tools and techniques...well, do some research and experimentation. These methods on here are only as good as the user, so take one, spin it, and make it unique so the juice goes to your money site.

    Try doing more primary research, I'm sure there's something you missed.
     
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  4. revekozu

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    lol. Sideways thinkers of the universe unite!

    I could rearrange his post in a linear fashion, but it wouldn't be as fun.

    I'll follow a thought train like that any day.
     
  5. theimfactory

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    huh? you lost me at tony blair LOL
     
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    I am sure much of this rant is lost somewhere in the lower part of my Googywithers, but the top part sure is good, and the tools mentioned are top notch and not too expensive. Read it a few times and you will get the idea. Spend some time making good keyword focused articles and spin them well. Make sure you use AMR's capabilities, one of the most important of which is the ability to get the exact URL's of your published articles, so you can actually implement the techniques Scritty describes. This may be sideways thinking, but the best black hat methods always are. Thumbs up!
     
  7. IMATA

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    Oh, you brits really crack me up...
     
  8. Scritty

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    Nope - this is a pure linking guide (it says so at the top) :)

    If I wanted to do a guide on keyword research or article spinning, or how not to be a thick twat who can't write decent web copy - I'd have included that in the title.

    Clue is in the title. And for about $250 up front and zero ongoing cost it's a decent system (it works)

    Good idea though, I might do a "Keyword research for retards" thread. For example, I've been doing a lot of KW research in the last 2-3 months and I can't believe so many people go after movie sites for a start, I can only imagine they haven't seen or worked out the stats (there are about a dozen packages you can buy that just throw up movie sites - that all look much the same, there must be fekikng thousands of cookie cutter sites like that appeared in the last 3 months)

    And spinning - I think most people haven't got a clue. What is it with "I bought BAS, so now all I need to do is press "find acronyms" and "replace"

    Might be OK results for junk sites, but for getting traffic , it needs a lot more thought than that.

    So yeah, I get your point, but this is never meant to be a full SEO guide, just a "poor man's linking guide" - which it is. With the emphasis on "poor"

    My guess?

    It's still more work and cash than 90% of people are prepared to do or spend...

    Also, wrote the post after getting back from the pub and winning this weeks pub quiz (and having half a dozen pints, a couple of Glenmorangies and a very nice "home-made" chicken curry with rice and chips

    Proper British night out (for the over forties anyway)

    Did you know a camel with one hump is a bachtrian (sic?) I did, and it won my team £50 to share between the 4 of us. lol

    Scritty
     
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    Thanks fellow Brit - Good post. About to buy AMR - back on a one time payment.

    Haha - I too lost you at Tony Blair.
     
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    Educational (?) and entertaining all at once. Loved it !
     
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    After re reading this a few times it has been helpful! Some people think like trains, non stop but strong lol :)
     
  12. balric

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    What was hard to understand before the rant?
    Thank you Scritty for this post. I was actually thinking this might be a good way to go before I read this. I hate the thought of building up a bunch of web 2.0 sites and having them knocked down.
     
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    Probably the only post on this forum with over 50 words that i've read all the way through. You should go get hammered more often Scritty lol.

    TY
     
  14. Scritty

    Scritty Elite Member Premium Member

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    PR7+ Blogging or web2.0 platforms with ******** links are getting more and more scarce.

    PR4,5 and 6 article sites that love your single post are all over the place - and almost all are "********"

    Don't waste time and money on expensive subs that post your stuff on a a ton of low end nofollow low PR sites.

    There are less than 10 sites left that are really worth your content. wordpress.com, livejournal and a couple of others. For most, it's a total waste of time.

    If you make 4 or 5 webrings only a month then a tool to post to these few sites is also probably a waste of cash.

    A one off payment tool for article sites, bookmarking and indexing will save you a ton of cash AND give you content that is still there next year.

    Scritty
     
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    this is great info, thanks scrit!
     
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    Spot on, Scritty.
     
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    love the info and love the rant more. yes, I got the Tony Blair reference. :D

    You also mentioned Warcraft, you could have easily switched that out with Starcraft II and made the same statement. Sucked when I started playing cause I couldn't find an up to date guide in the big G.

    Question, though:

    If one doesn't have Xrumer, what do you recommend?
     
  18. Scritty

    Scritty Elite Member Premium Member

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    I use a few different tools.

    One is Simple Leveraging (a WSO - sorry but it is)
    It's a private network of about 350 sites that let you put on 30 links per site per day (they have tool that automates it pretty much)

    That's about 9000 links per day if you use them.

    Another would be Sick Submitter. It's a bit tecky, but ok.

    FInally, the triumverate of...

    Ping
    Bookmark
    RSS Submit

    Put together still doesw wonders

    I use scrapebox for ping, with 1000+ in my ping list
    BMD for bookmarking and
    Fast Submit for RSS (I host my own - good RSS tools will allow you to turn a page into an RSS XML file for submission quite quickly)


    Of course - you could do the lot (SLS, Ping, Bookmark and RSS submit)

    I do, and I have about a 99% success rate with indexing.
    So if you use a tool like Article MArketing Robot, you can create 600+ links (how many I normally end up with for a well spun article) and get 590+ of them actually indexed

    I would also make some WEB2.0 structures as well - but given the paucity of decent spammable sites these days, 10 or 12 is aboutr all I would ever use - I certainly wouldn't bother buying a tool to do this any more, there just aren't enough places to post to to warrant a one hundred and fifty bucks a month tool - essp when stand alone tools for keywords,bookmarking,RSS submission and mass linking are so much cheaper AND BETTER in the long run (better is a vital popint in here - make no bones about it, Nuke et al does not have a very good set of extra tool - they are adequate at best. MNF and Samurai far exceed Nuke for keywords. BMD and BMWiz are 100x better for bookmarking, RSS SUbmit and Fast RSS have 3-4 x more places to submit to than Nuke. AMR and Edwinsofts new article program are again substantially better than Nuke (quicker and more sites) for articles - and they are all one of payment.

    End up paying almost two thousand bucks a year for a tool that posts to ten good sites and pads itself out with a load of crappy second rate "extras" ( the ten good sites is something you could do yourself in seconds once you have made a few shortcuts and simple keyboard macros)

    THe best advice is - find something MANUAL that works for you and your style of marketing (big sites/small sites/lotsa sitees/one or two sites/local/adsense/high ticket ect ect - we are all different)

    Find what works and then AND ONLY THEN automate what works.

    Don't buy tools first and look for a system to use them in.
    Get a system THEN buy tools to autmate bits of it.

    Scritty
     
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    Another awesome thread scritty
     
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    Thanks, could u please post a youtube video showing it? :) Would be really appreciated