Please Share working case with RankerX and GSA..
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Shaunm
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I know its not exactly what you asked for but here are some of my observations over the past 6-8 month using SER and a few other things.
Out of the IMers I have on my Skype, I was the last to use SER on my sites and it was working ok until last year, I don't know anyone sucessfully using SER to rank sites now with most people having moved onto PBNs, Outreach or Paid Traffic. IMO Penguin 4 going real time has added something into the algo that totally turns link juice off from domains that go offline a whole bunch like the majority of the ones SER posts to.
In addition to this, it seems auto generated content has taken a hit too. I'm not sure if this is due to rank brain developing over time, penguin 4, Fred or something else but my money pages using auto generated content in their tiers have either not moved or fallen over time compared to those using 100% human wrote content climbing with a small number having not moved. If you are paying $2.5 for a T1 article then theres no point using SER to post it to a domain you don't have 100% control over as it can get deleted by the web master, the domain can be rolled back to before it was posted, the domain can get deindexed, the domain can go offline totally or it can go offline sparadically due to increased bandwidth requirements from people posting to it using automation.
Although my SER use has been minimal on sites for a few month with a focus more on the bridge network concept rather than mass automation, I decided to totally drop the tool early last month having dropped the mass automation side of it a few month before that. I still think building out bridge networks has potential, and you can use SER to post to self hosted domains but Scrapebox has the ability to add media to your posts and host it on your own sites as well as post your content in the correct category making it much easier to make your bridge network/PBN domains look legit.
Although I have been deleting my rank tracker/analytic projects for my SER based stuff over the past few month as I give up on the domain, here are some screenshots of the rank tracker data for the three I still have, the deleted ones looked the same...
Some of my PBN, BN, Manual web 2 domains do have SER on the T1 with a select set of engines to try an help with anchor diversification and increasing the referring domains to my pages but most of those links are already dead so I have no current plans to go back to doing that.
Out of the IMers I have on my Skype, I was the last to use SER on my sites and it was working ok until last year, I don't know anyone sucessfully using SER to rank sites now with most people having moved onto PBNs, Outreach or Paid Traffic. IMO Penguin 4 going real time has added something into the algo that totally turns link juice off from domains that go offline a whole bunch like the majority of the ones SER posts to.
In addition to this, it seems auto generated content has taken a hit too. I'm not sure if this is due to rank brain developing over time, penguin 4, Fred or something else but my money pages using auto generated content in their tiers have either not moved or fallen over time compared to those using 100% human wrote content climbing with a small number having not moved. If you are paying $2.5 for a T1 article then theres no point using SER to post it to a domain you don't have 100% control over as it can get deleted by the web master, the domain can be rolled back to before it was posted, the domain can get deindexed, the domain can go offline totally or it can go offline sparadically due to increased bandwidth requirements from people posting to it using automation.
Although my SER use has been minimal on sites for a few month with a focus more on the bridge network concept rather than mass automation, I decided to totally drop the tool early last month having dropped the mass automation side of it a few month before that. I still think building out bridge networks has potential, and you can use SER to post to self hosted domains but Scrapebox has the ability to add media to your posts and host it on your own sites as well as post your content in the correct category making it much easier to make your bridge network/PBN domains look legit.
Although I have been deleting my rank tracker/analytic projects for my SER based stuff over the past few month as I give up on the domain, here are some screenshots of the rank tracker data for the three I still have, the deleted ones looked the same...
SER on Three Tiers, Auto-Generated Content.
Manual Web 2.0, PBN, Bridge Network - 100% unique human wrote content.
Manual Web 2.0, Bridge Network - 100% unique human wrote content.
Some of my PBN, BN, Manual web 2 domains do have SER on the T1 with a select set of engines to try an help with anchor diversification and increasing the referring domains to my pages but most of those links are already dead so I have no current plans to go back to doing that.
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I know its not exactly what you asked for but here are some of my observations over the past 6-8 month using SER and a few other things.
Out of the IMers I have on my Skype, I was the last to use SER on my sites and it was working ok until last year, I don't know anyone sucessfully using SER to rank sites now with most people having moved onto PBNs, Outreach or Paid Traffic. IMO Penguin 4 going real time has added something into the algo that totally turns link juice off from domains that go offline a whole bunch like the majority of the ones SER posts to.
In addition to this, it seems auto generated content has taken a hit too. I'm not sure if this is due to rank brain developing over time, penguin 4, Fred or something else but my money pages using auto generated content in their tiers have either not moved or fallen over time compared to those using 100% human wrote content climbing with a small number having not moved. If you are paying $2.5 for a T1 article then theres no point using SER to post it to a domain you don't have 100% control over as it can get deleted by the web master, the domain can be rolled back to before it was posted, the domain can get deindexed, the domain can go offline totally or it can go offline sparadically due to increased bandwidth requirements from people posting to it using automation.
Although my SER use has been minimal on sites for a few month with a focus more on http://forum.gsa-online.de/discussion/22990/2017-link-building-information-from-website-magazine/p2#Comment_147762 rather than mass automation, I decided https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/journey-growing-a-money-site-network-to-10-000-a-month.928309/page-29#post-10467196 having dropped the mass automation side of it a few month before that. I still think building out bridge networks has potential, and yhttp://shaunmarrs.com/?s=self%20hosted&utm_source=blackhatworld.com but Scrapebox has the ability to add media to your posts and host it on your own sites as well as post your content in the correct category making it much easier to make your bridge network/PBN domains look legit.
Although I have been deleting my rank tracker/analytic projects for my SER based stuff over the past few month as I give up on the domain, here are some screenshots of the rank tracker data for the three I still have, the deleted ones looked the same...
SER on Three Tiers, Auto-Generated Content.
Manual Web 2.0, PBN, Bridge Network - 100% unique human wrote content.
Manual Web 2.0, Bridge Network - 100% unique human wrote content.
Some of my PBN, BN, Manual web 2 domains do have SER on the T1 with a select set of engines to try an help with anchor diversification and increasing the referring domains to my pages but most of those links are already dead so I have no current plans to go back to doing that.
woooow nice case! i will save offline version and print it and put it next on my bed
could you elaborate more what is "bridge network"
Shaunm
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I explain the main points of it in this thread over on the GSA Forum. Its evolved a little since then though as I am currently just using it as a stable T1 with a hand full of cases having SERE as a T2 but most are just T1.
I plan to start doing more keyword research in December ready for scaling in January if my current projects keep going the way they are and I plan to pick out a few keywords to have manual web 2.0s as a T2 for a bridge network T1.
masta2133
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Regarding this case study: Manual Web 2.0, PBN, Bridge Network - 100% unique human wrote content.
Can you please say what is the difficulty of the keyword, number of search results, the number of words in the page that ranked, as well as how many web2.0 were used and the type of PBN used etc.. ? Just some details in order to better understand the work required to make it to page 1 right now.
Thank you very much. This is the best/most useful journey thread I have came across.
Can you please say what is the difficulty of the keyword, number of search results, the number of words in the page that ranked, as well as how many web2.0 were used and the type of PBN used etc.. ? Just some details in order to better understand the work required to make it to page 1 right now.
Thank you very much. This is the best/most useful journey thread I have came across.
Shaunm
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Regarding keyword difficulty, you could ask 10 different people how they rate the difficulty of a keyword and get 10 different answers. I used the keyword research method I published for these initial keywords though. This post in my journey thread shows the SERP positions for the above keywords as well as search volumes, I will be posting my update for November tomorrow. The number of words changes per page, with these keywords I was running with my theory of getting the word count for the top 10 results for my keyword, adding it all together, dividing by 10 and adding 500 but I have moved to aiming for 2000-3000 for the batch after this and they seem to be behaving very similar. The PBNs are from three different suppliers but one is now keeping all his domains for scaling, another is MIA leaving @Nargil as the only one still selling domains. They are a mix of auction and scraped domains and I do my own checks to make sure they are exactly what I am looking for.
masta2133
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Thanks for the quick and detailled answer. I will check the links.
Shaunm
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Saw last post by "Ignored Member" and knew it would be you trying to make yourself feel better/important/relevant while adding nothing of value
.In all honesty, you come across as the type of person who's Mother sends him to the supermarket for their monthly food shopping but instead of coming back with the shopping or the money, you return with a massive beaming smile on you face and three "Magic Beans" that some homeless guy managed to scam you for in exchange for the whole shopping budget. To top it off you then get angry at your Mother for not understanding that the homeless guy who sold them to you super double no take backs promised you that you were the one getting the good deal.
Anyway, heres a few things I took note of before putting you on my ignored list on the off chance I needed them.
To answer your question, I'm still black hat and far from giving up, just adapting to the times. I recently completed my testing to see what has an effect on the SERPs after the crazy three months either side of the new year that wiped out many peoples sites and I am planing to start scaling in January. I tent to try a whole bunch of stuff and then build positive feedback loops to develop what worked for me rather than crying like a bitch because I tried once and it didn't go my way or trying something on such a small scale you have little to no chance of getting any valuable data from it (and then thinking its a case study...).
In all honesty, judging by your post here it seems like you just want some magic zero effort push button solution. Myself and others (just one example of someone else using it) were successfully using SER on money sites last year after a bunch of stuff had been released by Google to counter it, if you were unable to make an ROI way back in 2012 before Google had rolled out counters then its most definitely on you, not the tool.
If we do some quick math on your post here.
Income = €33,000
Duration = 2008-2017 = 9 years
€33,000/9 years = €3666 per YEAR.
You confirm in your post here that you were working IT based jobs at the same time period so i'm calling bullshit on any claims you try to make of having other more successful sites.
If the two successful test sites from my testing phase stay at their current performance level rather than growing further as I expect, then they are still on track to earn almost double per year than your site. These are just test sites, they were built to test a whole bunch of stuff on them, not focus on maximising income. They are actually two of the sites you tried to call out here then refused to reply to me when I responded to you
.Judging by the type of posts I have seen you make and this massive waste of time, money and effort I kind of pity and feel sorry for you as you just come off as an angry person that has little to no happiness in your life other than failing at being a troll
.Wow, shaun invests 100s of hours writing up and posting helpful content, from which he earns a few hundred dollars per month (no secret, read for yourself on his website), and for doing this he gets called a "guru" tricking people into buying "black hat crap". Yeah, it's a real mystery why no one shares anything of value these days :\
alexzeto
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Dude... every single post from you is a piss contest, 99% of your messages are either insults or calling others "gurus" or "stupid"
masta2133
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No wonder all his journey's threads are blatant failures.
masta2133
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- "Ordered some new T1 content for the BN/Manual Web 2.0s for some of the new money pages I ordered."
Shaunm
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500 words of human wrote niche relivant content, costs about $2.50 per article but its getting harder to find people at that rate. I use this BST service for my web 2.0s, you can get 10% off your orders using the coupon 10shaunm at the checkout. The number of web 2.0s changed depending on the money page but I used a minimum of 10 and then went up as high as 60 depending on the number of PBN/BN links, all web 2.0s are do follow.
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So when you use that service do you send him unique articles that you get written elsewhere? It does not seem like the service provider is using unique content for the web 2.0s.
Shaunm
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I get the content from my writers on Upwork. I published this post about hiring on upwork a while back but they have released a few cash grabs since then to make it harder to get content cheap. For example, as a client, you have to pay to have the same visibility on your job post that you used to get for free a few month back.
Additionally, they stopped allowing new freelancer signups a few month back. One of the reasons I was able to get my content so cheap was to use writers who had fresh profiles. They worked for cheap for a quick and easy five star review for the job on their profile along with 100% user happiness feedback. With no new freelancer accounts coming through, there is noone looking for these types of job anymore. They also randomly locked a bunch of freelancer accounts a few month back, there were a few threads on here but I never read them as I use it as a client only so that reduced the pool of writers even further.
Edit - I'm sure there is an option on his order page to get them to write the articles for you but they charge $5 per 500 words where as I can get it for $2.50 on Upwork but will probably have to increase it to $3 or $3.50 soon, if it gets too high I will just get the web 2 service team to write the content as its easier.
masta2133
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So basically, you are submitting the articles to existing properties with a link back to the money page if i understand correctly, because it says web2 submission and not creation. Because I thought that you were creating small web20 properties (4-5 pages per site) and then filling them with content and linking back to your money page.
Shaunm
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They are fresh accounts with a single submission on them that links to my site. I tried using 5 x submissions in the past but the retention rates didnt change much so I went back to single post properties.
masta2133
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Do you have tier 2 and tier 3 links that add more juice to your web2 properties or is it not required?
Shaunm
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I have a small number of pages with SEREngines on T2 none have a T3 but the majority of them just have a T1 but theres a bunch of additional variables like keyword difficulty, your onpage andPBN/BN usage.