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This is really cool OP. Gonna give it a tour. My son is actually interested in this so I will spend a few days with him on it. Thanks.
 
uchiha.jain said:
Yes, if you're out of US you'd need a stealth eBay account. Here's how you'd create any given stealth account.
- Buy a private proxy. Each set of accounts get a private proxy and you always, always use that proxy to login (even for example when logging into eBay for authorizing any tool to make changes to your account). Pro tip: Create browser profiles for each set of accounts. Save both proxies and logins in each profile and you can now access all accounts reliably without hassle.
- Visit https://tracemyip.org through the proxy you just bought and note down the location. Find an address around the location. (hint: “google: pizza <town name>”)
- Sign up
- Get a free number for texting and calling through an app, like https://textplus.com or https://textnow.com.
- Verify using a VCC (You can get one at https://entropay.com, https://greendot.com. Pretty much any prepaid credit/debit card will do).

For eBay/PayPal in particular: Use a Canadian proxy and address. PayPal doesn’t require your SIN (equivalent to SSN, EIN, PAN) in Canada (it’s illegal). The most they’ll ask for is an id which is easy to fake.
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Thank's for your detail step. So, for payment from ebay still using real paypal account?
I worried that the real money cannot received because of stealth eBay account
 
We're discussing this on the chatroom now. Should have an answer soon.
 
uchiha.jain said:
We're discussing this on the chatroom now. Should have an answer soon.
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Yeah I have a few questions as well already on similar issues after reading the guide.

So you have stealth Amazon accounts to buy stuff. Are you paying with the stealth PayPal account?

You have stealth eBay accounts. These are associated with a stealth PayPal account. So then you make a sale on eBay, receive the $ on the PayPal account, use that $ to pay for your item on Amazon? Is that right?

So each month that you have to get another Amazon account (for prime) you can continue using the same stealth PayPal account to pay for it? Or do you have to get another PayPal account every 30 days?

Then when you actually try to withdraw your $ from PayPal, how the hell do you get the funds? You linked it to a crappy vcc, and not a "real" bank account. Do you transfer it to your "real" PayPal as a gift?

Sorry about the questions but these are the first ones I have after reading your guide.
 
Damn, really impressed by the PDF and how well the instructions are written. I hope to start doing this soon!
 
gtull2 said:
Yeah I have a few questions as well already on similar issues after reading the guide.

So you have stealth Amazon accounts to buy stuff. Are you paying with the stealth PayPal account?

You have stealth eBay accounts. These are associated with a stealth PayPal account. So then you make a sale on eBay, receive the $ on the PayPal account, use that $ to pay for your item on Amazon? Is that right?

So each month that you have to get another Amazon account (for prime) you can continue using the same stealth PayPal account to pay for it? Or do you have to get another PayPal account every 30 days?

Then when you actually try to withdraw your $ from PayPal, how the hell do you get the funds? You linked it to a crappy vcc, and not a "real" bank account. Do you transfer it to your "real" PayPal as a gift?

Sorry about the questions but these are the first ones I have after reading your guide.
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Better safe then sorry. :)
You can't buy on Amazon using Paypal. You'd need to buy giftcards. You can get some at https://piranha.zinc.io. Our mentor Andrew also sells giftcards in exchange on BTC.
This and the fact that you can maintain an Amazon account for some time while doing dropshipping is something I came to know very recently. I'll update the guide to reflect that. We're discussing how to best extend the life of Amazon accounts as well.
Your Paypal and eBay accounts are linked so you don't need a new account every month. The most basic way to funnel would be to send payments as services to a third account then send it as personal payment to your main account. We'll know how most international dropshippers do this very soon. :)

savobaby said:
Damn, really impressed by the PDF and how well the instructions are written. I hope to start doing this soon!
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Awesome, let me know if you face any issues at all.
 
Seems to be promising.
Bookmarked, waiting for more reviews :)
Definitely will use further ;)
 
Hi,

I am very well impressed by the pdf guide that you have provided. As someone who used to be in this business for 3 years few years ago, your approach certainly seems smarter
than what I was doing. And I'm thinking of getting back into this game.

That being said, I have few questions regarding your approach of this system, if you don't mind:

1: I'm missing information about how you pay for the goods to Amazon? Obviously, you are not using CC if you're changing an account every month. So how
do you pay for the goods? Are you saying that gift cards are really the only way of doing it without using personal CC ? ( asking because I have never used amazon for this )

2: How do you withdraw money from stealth accounts without them getting limited? Because unless you are doing it on a very low scale ( 100-500/month ) or something
already have changed significantly, wiring money from stealth to third party and then to your personal is a highway to getting all of your accounts linked sooner or later
( Talking from experience of having about 1000 stealth accounts ). Please correct me if I'm wrong here or missing something.

Thank you in advance for clarifying this.
 
soccerlover said:
Seems to be promising.
Bookmarked, waiting for more reviews :)
Definitely will use further ;)
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And we will be waiting :D

Wooten said:
Hi,

I am very well impressed by the pdf guide that you have provided. As someone who used to be in this business for 3 years few years ago, your approach certainly seems smarter
than what I was doing. And I'm thinking of getting back into this game.

That being said, I have few questions regarding your approach of this system, if you don't mind:

1: I'm missing information about how you pay for the goods to Amazon? Obviously, you are not using CC if you're changing an account every month. So how
do you pay for the goods? Are you saying that gift cards are really the only way of doing it without using personal CC ? ( asking because I have never used amazon for this )

2: How do you withdraw money from stealth accounts without them getting limited? Because unless you are doing it on a very low scale ( 100-500/month ) or something
already have changed significantly, wiring money from stealth to third party and then to your personal is a highway to getting all of your accounts linked sooner or later
( Talking from experience of having about 1000 stealth accounts ). Please correct me if I'm wrong here or missing something.

Thank you in advance for clarifying this.
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Thanks for the kind words buddy.
You pay on Amazon using Gift cards (You have to account for this in your margins). You can get some at https://piranha.zinc.io. Our mentor Andrew also sells them in exchange on BTC.
The funds funneling method I described in the guide is very basic, yes and can't operate on a larger scale. We're figuring out how experienced dropshippers do this.
Also, as it turns out, some people do this using a single Amazon account without getting banned. We're figuring out that as well.

There's an ongoing discussion on both these issues on the chatroom (Just waiting for Andrew to come online). Feel free to join in. :)
 
I appreciate your prompt answer. Would you care to share the location of aforementioned chatroom as I've seemed to missed that one too. Thank you.
 
Yes, it supports: US, UK, IN, FR, DE, IT, ES, CA
 
Hi everyone. Im Andrew.
I have a lot of experience in this game and at one time was doing 10000(sales that is) a day between my accounts.

My goal is to mentor people to these type of levels and show other ways to make money on the backend of the sales.

Unfortunately i dont have a lot of experience on the international side of things but i do have friends who i can get these answers from.

The biggest issue with dropshipping is the price of services and this one is a steal. It will allow you to keep much more of your profit. I believe Abinays estimate of 2k is extremely conservative because i was able to in 6 months get to about 500 a day profit. I have friends who started when i did and make a whole lot more too. Its like any method. The more work the more money

Ill check this thread everyday and also am available on chat for any questions people have to ask.
 
lolzcat said:
Hi everyone. Im Andrew.
I have a lot of experience in this game and at one time was doing 10000(sales that is) a day between my accounts.

My goal is to mentor people to these type of levels and show other ways to make money on the backend of the sales.

Unfortunately i dont have a lot of experience on the international side of things but i do have friends who i can get these answers from.

The biggest issue with dropshipping is the price of services and this one is a steal. It will allow you to keep much more of your profit. I believe Abinays estimate of 2k is extremely conservative because i was able to in 6 months get to about 500 a day profit. I have friends who started when i did and make a whole lot more too. Its like any method. The more work the more money

Ill check this thread everyday and also am available on chat for any questions people have to ask.
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Hi,

since you claim to have a lot of experience in this game, I hope you don't mind me asking a bunch of questions ? :)

How much of an upfront investment does it take to break even at some point? And what % of your total sales value is profit?

I am thinking of doing this, but since I live outside of US it makes everything a lot trickier. Because initial cost would be VPS per stealth accounts,
preferably fresh hotspot, VCC for verification purpose, clean phone number and on top of all these preparations things comes the Amazon gift cards
which you use for buying items on Amazon prime. Now considering the paypal 21 day money hold I assume you have to spend a bit of money for some
time before you can touch any of your profits, am I wrong? And then it raises the question, if you are selling on such high scale ( your aforementioned 500 day profits )
how do you clean your paypal accounts? I assume you have a lot of stealth accounts and have a way of withdrawing them to your bank account ( I assume you're from US, right? )

I hope I don't appear to be very sceptical, I am just raising all those questions from experience of mine which at some point made me leave this game because
it wouldn't pay off considering the amount of work I was putting in it. So while your approach seems to be way different from what I was doing, it still raises
a lot of questions that needs answers, especially for people who never tried drop shipping or has never dealt with paypal limitations on high scale or ebay suspensions.

I hope that makes sense and I hope you'll be able to answer these concerns of mine. I highly appreciate it :)
 
Any chance of integrating this with Shopify to list items?
 
Hey everyone, by marketplace rules we can only post once a day. Please leave your questions here and I'll start a conversation with you including the mentors. At the end of the day I'll post a digest based on our discussions.

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Wooten said:
Hi,

since you claim to have a lot of experience in this game, I hope you don't mind me asking a bunch of questions ? :)

How much of an upfront investment does it take to break even at some point? And what % of your total sales value is profit?

I am thinking of doing this, but since I live outside of US it makes everything a lot trickier. Because initial cost would be VPS per stealth accounts,
preferably fresh hotspot, VCC for verification purpose, clean phone number and on top of all these preparations things comes the Amazon gift cards
which you use for buying items on Amazon prime. Now considering the paypal 21 day money hold I assume you have to spend a bit of money for some
time before you can touch any of your profits, am I wrong? And then it raises the question, if you are selling on such high scale ( your aforementioned 500 day profits )
how do you clean your paypal accounts? I assume you have a lot of stealth accounts and have a way of withdrawing them to your bank account ( I assume you're from US, right? )

I hope I don't appear to be very sceptical, I am just raising all those questions from experience of mine which at some point made me leave this game because
it wouldn't pay off considering the amount of work I was putting in it. So while your approach seems to be way different from what I was doing, it still raises
a lot of questions that needs answers, especially for people who never tried drop shipping or has never dealt with paypal limitations on high scale or ebay suspensions.

I hope that makes sense and I hope you'll be able to answer these concerns of mine. I highly appreciate it :)
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lolzcat said:
1. "How much of an upfront investment does it take to break even at some point? And what % of your total sales value is profit?"
Your intial investment can be pretty low depending on how you go about this. Assuming youre using a standard account you will just have the two to three days of paypal transfers or if youre buying gift cards via paypal you can see profit almost immediately.

If you are stuck with the 21 day paypal holds that can increase costs unfortunately. After 90 days these will fall off as well.

To answer the sales to profit thats really up to the seller. I ran a low margin high volume business but generally only experienced 5 to 10% margins.

2. As for the second paragraph unfortunately i cant speak much to international sellers as ive always been in the us. You can just create a bank account and transfer over even with a stealth name. When i was seriously into ebay and selling my own products i had about 40 stealth accounts.

It may take awhile to see true profits but you can make a lot of money in this game. Scaling to 180k a year income in 6 to 12 months is great and i believe this system can do that. This is not a get rich quick and it takes a ton of work but the payoff is great if youre willing to put the time in
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PS: We are working to get an internationally operating mentor onboard. Should have a detailed guide very soon.

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