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I bought the program. What are ORMs?
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I bought the program. What are ORMs?
seveneleven
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So when it s searched the word >delay>then it attempts to change the IP via HMA, meantime your own IP is umasked whilst its doing it and HMA does not always reconnect.
Need a solution to this.
tks
Need a solution to this.
tks
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seveneleven
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Review:
In a nutshell, its flawed.
Problems:
- Using on board proxies - all are public no use
- Using HMA - Software does not sync with HMA properly and when it does the proxies on HMA are failing leaving my own IP address wide open to Google
- Using my own proxies: Due to the number of hits they would be dead in no time leaving a signature for Google to see.
Overall value for money: 0/10
Communication: 7/10
usefulness: 0/10
Really disappointed with this dude, cant say anything good about it and worse than that spent hours on it trying to get it work to no avail.
In a nutshell, its flawed.
Problems:
- Using on board proxies - all are public no use
- Using HMA - Software does not sync with HMA properly and when it does the proxies on HMA are failing leaving my own IP address wide open to Google
- Using my own proxies: Due to the number of hits they would be dead in no time leaving a signature for Google to see.
Overall value for money: 0/10
Communication: 7/10
usefulness: 0/10
Really disappointed with this dude, cant say anything good about it and worse than that spent hours on it trying to get it work to no avail.
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FirstNotice
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seveneleven,
Sucks that I read your review 1 minute after I ordered...
OP, I ordered waiting on a download link...
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Sucks that I read your review 1 minute after I ordered...
OP, I ordered waiting on a download link...
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yenerich
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-Many of the harvested proxies works fine. Ofcourse, like any software that harvest proxies, most are public and maybe are burned LIKE IT DOES IN ANY OTHER SOFTWARE THAT HARVEST PROXIES, but the software find enough proxies to get hundreds of clicks every day.
-Using HMA - The software sync perfectly with HMA and do not leave your IP address at all.
-Using your own proxies: If you think that it will be burned due to the clicks, then you do not nothing at all. In most software (like GSA, SeNuke, etc) the proxies get an intensive use. This software is getting one click every, lets say, 5 minutes. GSA, SeNuke, etc. get hundreds of clicks per minute. According to your point of view, the proxies or HMA does not work at all.
My conclusion is that you have some problems understanding the software and how to using it. Maybe you need some friend to help you. We had sent you more than 7 messages in afew hours giving detailed indications and explanations, but thats not enough in your case.
Im not trying to make a discussion of it and will not accept a discussion or hijack of the thread. But i guess that we have the right to answer to a review like yours.
Read other people reviews.
In our BETA testing more than 50 people test the software and NO ONE, not just ONE, tell us nothing about any of the problems that you point.
In fact this is a really easy to use software.
Just look how many BETA testers are purchasing the product. It is because they like it and the software works fine for them.
End of the discussion.
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yenerich
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No, the software controls HMA and wait until it change the IP and then do the search and click it, then it do the delay and at the end it change again the IP and wait until it changes to do the next search.
Please do not mess with HMA settings, because you can set it to change the IP automatically and it makes a mess. Its easy: do not mess with HMA settings because IGR will control it.
Just pick the countries and do not mess anything else.
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seveneleven
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As a paying punter, I gave an honest review of it. End of story
yenerich
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Just to clarify.
The software (as many software does) scrape the web searching for proxies and test them to find Google Passed proxies. So, it test all the proxies it found and yes, many fails during this test. The software only uses the Google passed proxies that it found.
People can see that the software test and discard many proxies, but that is not a malfunction or a failure, is the normal behavior of any serious software that harvest for proxies.
The number of proxies that fails during the test does not mean at all that the software fails. Its the normal behavior, because the software test all the proxies that it finds and ONLY keep the one that passes the tests that detemine that is Google passed proxies.
At the end it finds enough Google Passed proxies to work. The most recommendable is to use privated proxies, but if you decide to use the ones that the software harvest, it will do the job, no matter it has to test hundreds.
The software (as many software does) scrape the web searching for proxies and test them to find Google Passed proxies. So, it test all the proxies it found and yes, many fails during this test. The software only uses the Google passed proxies that it found.
People can see that the software test and discard many proxies, but that is not a malfunction or a failure, is the normal behavior of any serious software that harvest for proxies.
The number of proxies that fails during the test does not mean at all that the software fails. Its the normal behavior, because the software test all the proxies that it finds and ONLY keep the one that passes the tests that detemine that is Google passed proxies.
At the end it finds enough Google Passed proxies to work. The most recommendable is to use privated proxies, but if you decide to use the ones that the software harvest, it will do the job, no matter it has to test hundreds.
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Lynista
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To the discussion lately i have also a Feedback and my view from the Beta:
I used public proxies and HMA while the beta was running. Does the Software work? Yes it does it's job. Does it work perfect? Not always. But let me explain it:
My Setting:
- I was using it on a Germen E-Commerce site with some special keywords which where actually ranked highest on the page I was linking
- I allowed all countries as Proxies
- I had a DeathByCaptch account (really required for Public Proxies)
1. Use it with a public Proxy:
That works technical almost perfect. I had some crashed from the software on Windows Server environment after a long run but nothing critical.
What bothers me is that Google is not Stupid. From the effect of the Public Proxies i can say they they are almost useless for me. Google knows exactly that a Russian search result of a proxy which solved the captacha right is no valuable search result for a German site.
We shouldn't think that Google doesn't know that we try to improve the CTR. So when using Proxies try to use regional private proxies.
2. Use of HMA:
The first thing that happened after testing HMA and IGR was that i got a mail from HMA saying that I should only change my IP address only every 2,5 min. -> fraud protection by HMA
I guess that the HMA combination would work the best with IGR. BUT you can't really configure the Time between IP change. Thats something which should be improved.
General:
- I think CTR is a very relevant metric for Google
- But Google also knows that some people try to automate CTR -> So you get captachas
- Not every country seams to have the same value for the CTR. German site and Russian click from a public proxy = useless. German site and German click from a private proxy = useful
- This tool does that what it advertises. But don't expect results from the first day and especially not from public proxies.
I used public proxies and HMA while the beta was running. Does the Software work? Yes it does it's job. Does it work perfect? Not always. But let me explain it:
My Setting:
- I was using it on a Germen E-Commerce site with some special keywords which where actually ranked highest on the page I was linking
- I allowed all countries as Proxies
- I had a DeathByCaptch account (really required for Public Proxies)
1. Use it with a public Proxy:
That works technical almost perfect. I had some crashed from the software on Windows Server environment after a long run but nothing critical.
What bothers me is that Google is not Stupid. From the effect of the Public Proxies i can say they they are almost useless for me. Google knows exactly that a Russian search result of a proxy which solved the captacha right is no valuable search result for a German site.
We shouldn't think that Google doesn't know that we try to improve the CTR. So when using Proxies try to use regional private proxies.
2. Use of HMA:
The first thing that happened after testing HMA and IGR was that i got a mail from HMA saying that I should only change my IP address only every 2,5 min. -> fraud protection by HMA
I guess that the HMA combination would work the best with IGR. BUT you can't really configure the Time between IP change. Thats something which should be improved.
General:
- I think CTR is a very relevant metric for Google
- But Google also knows that some people try to automate CTR -> So you get captachas
- Not every country seams to have the same value for the CTR. German site and Russian click from a public proxy = useless. German site and German click from a private proxy = useful
- This tool does that what it advertises. But don't expect results from the first day and especially not from public proxies.
yenerich
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The main reason that makes Google to put captchas in their searches is not for CTR but for automated searches used to track the ranks, also to do research about the Google Algo, etc.
People says that Google is not stupid. But i ask: does Google knows that there are very well known tools like GSA, SeNuke, ScrapeBox, etc or not? And why they does not do much about that and they will do something about a very specific thing like CTR manipulation?
They make a big effort to index and calculate the backlinks, knowing that a big percent are fake.
Why will they do something like try to detect the CTR manipulation when they are ignoring that a BIG percent of the backlinks are fake?
CTR manipulation is mostly new and not well know, thats an advantage.
Right know is more likely that Google will take actions against SeNuke (and its easier to do it, many of the templates like Full Monty are very well known), ScrapeBox, etc that it will feel worried about a few guys using the CTR.
But, this is not a discussion thread but a sales thread. So i just add this to clarify something about how possible is that Google detect CTR tecniques and i think that is almost 0%
People says that Google is not stupid. But i ask: does Google knows that there are very well known tools like GSA, SeNuke, ScrapeBox, etc or not? And why they does not do much about that and they will do something about a very specific thing like CTR manipulation?
They make a big effort to index and calculate the backlinks, knowing that a big percent are fake.
Why will they do something like try to detect the CTR manipulation when they are ignoring that a BIG percent of the backlinks are fake?
CTR manipulation is mostly new and not well know, thats an advantage.
Right know is more likely that Google will take actions against SeNuke (and its easier to do it, many of the templates like Full Monty are very well known), ScrapeBox, etc that it will feel worried about a few guys using the CTR.
But, this is not a discussion thread but a sales thread. So i just add this to clarify something about how possible is that Google detect CTR tecniques and i think that is almost 0%
SlimProxies
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Does your app fake screen resolution and other javascript info? Is javascript enabled on the browser of the app?
Xyaxolix
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I am sorry but it would be really bad if I didn't share my experience with others before they buy it. I was beta tester and software is extremely flawed. It needs months of hard work and dedication to upgrade it and make it useful and working. Idea isn't bad, but at the moment, you won't get anything from it.
yenerich
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Thanks for the review.
Yes, it fake all the info it sends. Javascript is enabled, but "controled".
Sorry guys when i get the chance to beta test i always hope to be able to leave a great review, but my review has to be honest.
the idea here is a great one but in my opinion over the beta testing time the product did not really improve much. I saw no boost in Google ranking. I started off using the public proxies and found them to be usless so i signed up for HMA to use that feature. i got nothing but error after error once using H.M.A. service with this product. the death by captcha function in the hole testing time did not solve a single captcha. one other flaw that i really did not like is everytime it changed proxies it changed the system proxies. i would go log in to facebook and get security warnings and test because my proxy had changed with out be knowing which is something i was not informed of. so i had to run it on a V.PC. using VMware Workstation which is a resource sucker.
Its a shame because i do like the idea, i just think that it was not really for release yet.
my advise to op/designers is to close this sales thread go back into beta testing and get it right before release
if this product worked 100% its worth way more than $26 but as it was at the end of testing $26 was $26 too much
I am very sorry to have to post this but i have to be honest or my reviews for anyone else aren't worth anything
if you fix the issues i will gladly retest and update this review and if you fix it for real i will even pay full price for it but your charging money right now for a product that is not any good
FULL DISCLOSURE : a few weeks after the beta testing ended us beta tester were emailed about posting a review and getting the product at a discount. I on gut instinct responded " how much and do you have an affiliate program" i emailed that back half on autopilot with out really thinking about it. the reason i am saying this now is op might use that as a point against my review. so yes i did ask O.P. about an affiliate program but it was in error. i would not promote this product in its current form.
the idea here is a great one but in my opinion over the beta testing time the product did not really improve much. I saw no boost in Google ranking. I started off using the public proxies and found them to be usless so i signed up for HMA to use that feature. i got nothing but error after error once using H.M.A. service with this product. the death by captcha function in the hole testing time did not solve a single captcha. one other flaw that i really did not like is everytime it changed proxies it changed the system proxies. i would go log in to facebook and get security warnings and test because my proxy had changed with out be knowing which is something i was not informed of. so i had to run it on a V.PC. using VMware Workstation which is a resource sucker.
Its a shame because i do like the idea, i just think that it was not really for release yet.
my advise to op/designers is to close this sales thread go back into beta testing and get it right before release
if this product worked 100% its worth way more than $26 but as it was at the end of testing $26 was $26 too much
I am very sorry to have to post this but i have to be honest or my reviews for anyone else aren't worth anything
if you fix the issues i will gladly retest and update this review and if you fix it for real i will even pay full price for it but your charging money right now for a product that is not any good
FULL DISCLOSURE : a few weeks after the beta testing ended us beta tester were emailed about posting a review and getting the product at a discount. I on gut instinct responded " how much and do you have an affiliate program" i emailed that back half on autopilot with out really thinking about it. the reason i am saying this now is op might use that as a point against my review. so yes i did ask O.P. about an affiliate program but it was in error. i would not promote this product in its current form.
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yenerich
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Any problems retaled to HMA are not related to our software. Both are different products.
Also, the system proxies are changed using it and it the normal operation. This software is not intented for use at the same time that you are using your computer, usually people run it over the night or in a VPS.
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During BETA testiung, most users get tons of cliks, many of them (not all) get more than 1k, some 3k+
Many see improvements on their ranking.
Its a very easy to use piece of software, all it demands is to be used in the right way to run without problems:
-Use it all night long or use it on a VPS
-If u decide to use auto havested proxies, understand that (like any software that harvest proxies( it will need to test one by one and many will fail. In GSA or ScrapeBox, per example, at the end you keep only 3% to 5% usually, the rest are burned or closed proxies.
-If you use your own PRIVATED proxies, i guess that will run without a problem.
-If you use HMA dont mess the settings and follow the instructiosn to kepp both programjs running sync. Its so easy to do it.
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Here you can see a Google webmaster tools stats of a site using this tool. Look at the CTR and look how it grows. Also look at the dates.
That is what Google detects and shows in a few days of use of Insane Google Ranker in this website.
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This morning i started this tool in a VPS ( a cheap windows VPS, $4 USD per month) and i use harvested proxies. I get more than 100 clicks in a few hours (3 and a half hours). It working fine.
Yesterday 20 of 50 BETA testers ask us for their coupon code. Today we have 7 BETA testers asking for their coupon.
Also, the system proxies are changed using it and it the normal operation. This software is not intented for use at the same time that you are using your computer, usually people run it over the night or in a VPS.
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During BETA testiung, most users get tons of cliks, many of them (not all) get more than 1k, some 3k+
Many see improvements on their ranking.
Its a very easy to use piece of software, all it demands is to be used in the right way to run without problems:
-Use it all night long or use it on a VPS
-If u decide to use auto havested proxies, understand that (like any software that harvest proxies( it will need to test one by one and many will fail. In GSA or ScrapeBox, per example, at the end you keep only 3% to 5% usually, the rest are burned or closed proxies.
-If you use your own PRIVATED proxies, i guess that will run without a problem.
-If you use HMA dont mess the settings and follow the instructiosn to kepp both programjs running sync. Its so easy to do it.
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Here you can see a Google webmaster tools stats of a site using this tool. Look at the CTR and look how it grows. Also look at the dates.
That is what Google detects and shows in a few days of use of Insane Google Ranker in this website.
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This morning i started this tool in a VPS ( a cheap windows VPS, $4 USD per month) and i use harvested proxies. I get more than 100 clicks in a few hours (3 and a half hours). It working fine.
Yesterday 20 of 50 BETA testers ask us for their coupon code. Today we have 7 BETA testers asking for their coupon.
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you are selling this product to people in the I.M. biz i am sure 99% of them are like me and have something running 24 x7 on their p.c.
for example i use a software that logs into multiple facebook accounts, 3 of them i use no proxie on so i the middle of the night it goes to do what it does and boom the system proxy has changed. my problem with this was not that it is the case its the fact it was not clearly advertised and your possible customers have a right to know it will seriously limit what you can be doing on your pc at the same time. As for the H.M.A. issues. H.M.A. was working perfectly when used normally it only got errors when in your program meaning it was the integration with your program causing the problem. when using H.M.A. with IGR and death by captcha i got nothing by time outs and error. sorry but H.M.A. and D.B.C. are long proven as quality reliable services. its your software that's not integrating well with them
Lynista
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For me DBC worked fine after version 0.7. But you need to recreate the project and add the DBC data into the project. Otherwise it won't work.
The HMA integration worked for me but seamed sometimes to be a bit unstable. For example, sometimes the server was pending to change and IGR was already search for the next Keyword. After restarting IGR it worked again.
General the Software worked for me like described. Also with HMA and DBC.
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This should have been a software as a service instead of a standalone desktop software. I know I would have bought. At the end of the day, I don't think you'll be able to survive and maintain the software on $25/year licenses which makes me reluctant to buy.
After looking at the reviews, my hypothesis is spot on... charging this little just isn't enough to build something of high value and reliability. You're getting impatient and bolding your text. What a shame, I thought you were onto something.
After looking at the reviews, my hypothesis is spot on... charging this little just isn't enough to build something of high value and reliability. You're getting impatient and bolding your text. What a shame, I thought you were onto something.
yenerich
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About HMA, let me clarify:
HMA "integration" is so simple, its not an API or nothing fancy, just 3 possible command line instructions.
For changing the proxies it only receive and manage a single commanline option that is -changeip, there is no room for mistakes or bad integrations there.
**(In fact HMA is so simple to integrate, it only receives: -connect-disconnect & -changeip commands, nothing more. As i said, there is no room for bad integrations).
In most cases that BETA testers report problems was because the user messed some HMA settings. I am not saying that all cases will be for that reason, but the ones that we found was because that reason. Thats why we recommend not to change HMA settings and wait until HMA is ready and THEN start Insane Google Ranker.
However, for every single problem reported, we had many successfully cases. Thats why at this moment the 60% of the BETA testers purchase the software. Its because the like it, they found it easy to use and it gives results.
*i Bold the text and uses colors to be clear, not because im impatient
The low price is just a release price. We have more than 10 years of experience selling well know software applications, so i think that we know how to manage the prices, dont worry.
Have a nice weekend.
HMA "integration" is so simple, its not an API or nothing fancy, just 3 possible command line instructions.
For changing the proxies it only receive and manage a single commanline option that is -changeip, there is no room for mistakes or bad integrations there.
**(In fact HMA is so simple to integrate, it only receives: -connect-disconnect & -changeip commands, nothing more. As i said, there is no room for bad integrations).
In most cases that BETA testers report problems was because the user messed some HMA settings. I am not saying that all cases will be for that reason, but the ones that we found was because that reason. Thats why we recommend not to change HMA settings and wait until HMA is ready and THEN start Insane Google Ranker.
However, for every single problem reported, we had many successfully cases. Thats why at this moment the 60% of the BETA testers purchase the software. Its because the like it, they found it easy to use and it gives results.
*i Bold the text and uses colors to be clear, not because im impatient
The low price is just a release price. We have more than 10 years of experience selling well know software applications, so i think that we know how to manage the prices, dont worry.Have a nice weekend.
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