Penguin is so fast? or its just me?

It's way too early to make any conclusions.

Besides newly launched sites sometimes show a sign of boost at the early stage. I have a theory that this is due to sandbox and all other filters not being processed immediately.

Everything seems to be set up right. Continue with the link building and wait 2-3 months. Then update the thread and let us know if it gained some serps back.

Good luck!

It is very simple site is to new for so many links

I tested similar (1.tier about 50 2.0)(2 tier 50 articles)(about 80 wiki backlinks Pr6 - Pr3 to money site) just i make more attention in (keywords variation)

Done it for a site 2 months old

It went down from 23 to 86

Done all the same to 1.5 year old site

It goes up from 32 to 5 place

Probably of the age of the site but as somebody said it can be because site has no traffic just baklinks

So need to try get get traffic and when links

almost the same ocured with one of mi sites, it jumped from 1 page to 4-5 I just hade to wait a bit and build some quality, natural and related looking links not lots at the begining
around 5 to 10 a day, some of the links where like related forum post, paid high PR web directorioes, article directories, but all this whas quality content no spun or spamy stuff
After a week 10 days mi site whas stable on page 3 after that I orderd a backlink package
here on BHW that included, social bookmarks, wikis, article directories and high PR blog post
after the service was completed mi site was on 1 page 5 place, (medium low comp.)

Then I built some quality web 2.0 around 10, all unique content and with 3 articles each but only 1 article had a backlink toards mi site then I orderd 1 more service from BHW, A link piramide Xrumer blast 9k veary well done, Now I am on 1 page 2 position, now I am seing a regular 1-3 € per day but only from 1 keyword. Hope this helped somebody!

I have a cuestion....
could somebody experienced tell me if blasting a page of mi site could hurt mi whole site?
wat I mean is mi main site is on 2 place, if I blast another post/page that is odiferent keyword could this penalize mi hole site? or would it just penalize mi post/page?

Thanks

no it won't penalise whole site just that page

metalice said:

Hi there,

so something had happen to me..

i started a new site,

the site content + on page seo was really good, content 1300+ words only home page with 6 images all with different alt tag, site with 7 pages of contact us , about us ,TOS, etc.v - i let google fully index all the site before making any link.

now i only build link twice using magic submitter.
send to web 2.0 pages, total of 70 web 2.0 - made in 2 weeks , never pinged.
the anchor diversity was 10% kw , 25% url , 30% generic words , 35% Long tails

to the web 2.0 i made using AMR 200 AA links using anchor of long tails.

to the AMR articles i made 1300 wikis links using long tails.

never ping both amr and wikkis.
since yesterday morning i rank dropped from 34 to 80. its the penguin?
btw im not connected to google analytics or google webmaster tools.

WHAT IS MY MISTAKE? SHOULD I START OVER ALL AGAIN?

I will appreciate your advice as i really took things slow and wanted to make it work..

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For me to make a judgment I will need more details about the time of this. How old is your website? How was your ranking in serp by time.

In make a decision if this is about a penalty or just a dance I must know the time frame.

What I can tell you for sure is that to continue your link building. If you stop you will stay down for a long time. This is something that I test it (and also shared on a thread here)

kimomalcolmx said:

almost the same ocured with one of mi sites, it jumped from 1 page to 4-5 I just hade to wait a bit and build some quality, natural and related looking links not lots at the begining
around 5 to 10 a day, some of the links where like related forum post, paid high PR web directorioes, article directories, but all this whas quality content no spun or spamy stuff
After a week 10 days mi site whas stable on page 3 after that I orderd a backlink package
here on BHW that included, social bookmarks, wikis, article directories and high PR blog post
after the service was completed mi site was on 1 page 5 place, (medium low comp.)

Then I built some quality web 2.0 around 10, all unique content and with 3 articles each but only 1 article had a backlink toards mi site then I orderd 1 more service from BHW, A link piramide Xrumer blast 9k veary well done, Now I am on 1 page 2 position, now I am seing a regular 1-3 ? per day but only from 1 keyword. Hope this helped somebody!

I have a cuestion....
could somebody experienced tell me if blasting a page of mi site could hurt mi whole site?
wat I mean is mi main site is on 2 place, if I blast another post/page that is odiferent keyword could this penalize mi hole site? or would it just penalize mi post/page?

Thanks

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You will be penalize (if you will be) for the page that rank for that kw.

If you have www[dot]domain[dot]com ranking on page 1 for kw "domain" and www[dot]domain[dot]com/page_post1.html ranking page 1 for kw "page_post1" and you blast www[dot]domain[dot]com/page_post1.html directly for "page_post1" and you will get penalize then www[dot]domain[dot]com/page_post1.html will drop for kw "page_post1. And www[dot]domain[dot]com for kw "domain" will remain ok.

This happen to me but on the reverse. My main page get down for the main kw and start to blast inner pages for long tail kw and they got up but the main page stay down.

ija61 said:

For me to make a judgment I will need more details about the time of this. How old is your website? How was your ranking in serp by time.

In make a decision if this is about a penalty or just a dance I must know the time frame.

What I can tell you for sure is that to continue your link building. If you stop you will stay down for a long time. This is something that I test it (and also shared on a thread here)

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the site is month old, i gave it 2 weeks to index only with content, then started to make links, once a week i made blast of approx, 35 web 2.0.
and yesterday dropped to 80 from 34...

It's definitely a penalty

spasovski said:

It's definitely a penalty

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i hope not, but i think so also, but ill try to be optimistic! lol.

for a new site, how many links per week? on 22k exact searches? comp. medium minus...

How long has it been? I find that when i start a new site, it will enter the serps reasonably high within a week or two. It will then drop out completely sometimes before coming back a few weeks later in a good position (obviously where depends on the competitiveness of the keyword). I find it always comes back within 6 weeks.

Obviously you need to understand if you are building spammy links or not but assuming you are not, i would say it will come back within a few weeks.

metalice said:

the site is month old, i gave it 2 weeks to index only with content, then started to make links, once a week i made blast of approx, 35 web 2.0.
and yesterday dropped to 80 from 34...

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More than sure is just an "aggressive" dance or as I call it a maturation penalty. Just continue your link building strategy.

I think you will stay there for a few weeks but if you keep building backlinks and maybe add some new content then you will probably rise slow but sure back again.

Do not start all over again.

From the beginning G like two things (big and old) so if some time it's see something let's say "too young to be true" it put that website in maturation.
Building backlinks will tell G that even if you are down people are still "talking" about you. G can not see your traffic if your are not using analytics, even so I thing that G do not use analitycs in the normal algorithm because some may use analytics and some may not so it is a too big variation to take in consideration in a G algorithm that must provide result in 99.9% of the cases and here we talk about billions of websites. Maybe they use it in manual verification and trust me no matter how important we think our website or our niche is we are just a drop of water in the ocean so in very few case we "benefit" for a personal manual recognition.

This kind of dances are normal on a so young website even more this days.

P.S. As I said do not stop building backlinks. I say that because I test it on my own website... When I was on top I stop building backlinks and I dropped instantly and remain there until I start again. And here I'm talking about SB blast.

You've been slapped! I wouldn't start again though, just build some quality links from blog posting to get some authority going into the website.

Good links get you places!

AMR links are regarded as spammy these days, I try to avoid them totally.
Saying that if these algo hit you, then we now no the blueprint for negative SEO.

I also think your in a dance.. just do some social footprints, and don't over analyse
your rankings so early on, G doesn't know where to place you yet.

hi,
I have a similar situation.
I made a new site. Within 2 weeks he was in a TOP3. But the next day after being hit in the TOP3 my site has taken off from the TOP100. And now for a week it does not exist in the TOP100. There are no links to the site did not place. Only by Onpage SEO.

I do not know what to do. Friends, need your advice.

I think it's normal dance just build some quality links and do some social media likes etc

dyadya_petya said:

hi,
I have a similar situation.
I made a new site. Within 2 weeks he was in a TOP3. But the next day after being hit in the TOP3 my site has taken off from the TOP100. And now for a week it does not exist in the TOP100. There are no links to the site did not place. Only by Onpage SEO.

I do not know what to do. Friends, need your advice.

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It's a dance,most new sites will dance,especially if you add new content because google is trying to position you and when new content is added it re-evaluates your site.
I'd slowly build relevant links.
The new algo may be causing a longer dance.

It can be dance...my sites jumped from #20 to #130 for one week when it was new...so wait a bit, don't build any other backlinks and you will see what happend.

Google can read grammar and will soon roll out reading levels, probably based on predominant sites visited, or an optional advanced option. This will help academics looking for work which is over an academic standard, or if a 14 year old needs to do his science home work that reading level can be selected.

metalice said:

i really hope you are right here, how many days its usually takes this dance? been awhile since i danced with google..

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For most websites, it goes down and comes back up in a day or two. The process keeps going on for a while and after that it stabilizes. If it's been more than a couple of weeks then you might be penalized. However, if it's just a few days, I *think* you have nothing to worry just yet.

I have similar story howevere my site has been slapped to between 5 and 100 for all keywords on all my pages. Site wide slap

i had a similar problem only my got de-index so yours might be a dance, if its a dance you can continue your backlinking very slowly and continuos