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This update is very confusing thats all I can say.
One of my sites was hit back on August 9th, then 12 days later I gained all my rankings back.
I didn't change or do anything, and rankings went from page 10 and beyond all back into the
top 3.
This was before I heard news of any sort of update. So then October 4th rolls around and
that same site takes another hit, similar like on August 9th. This time the site is gone for 11
days, then comes back up into the top 3.
HOWEVER, about 5 days after that, it lost rank again, and hasn't come back up since.
It was very weird how the site lost rank. Almost like it got caught into some filter, then got
out of the filter, then got caught in another filter, got out again, then finally got taken down.
I was not using tiered backlinks but the site itself was about 70% spun content. However,
I spun all my content over 90% uniqueness. The reason I did this, my #1 competitor was
and is still using the same technique. I'd say about 80% of his site is spun content, but I'd
also say that his content is spun around 99%. He definitely used a much larger seed article
than I did. And his site survived this update.
So when you say "spun content is the reason", thats a very BROAD statement. Because
there are many different ways to spin content aside from synonyms. Like using completely
different phrases, completely different sentences and paragraphs.
All I know, in one of my niches the #1 ranking site looks like this -
25 pages of manually written content.
300 pages of DEEPLY spun geotargeted content.
That site has been ranking for 5+ years because thats how long I've been watching the SERPS
for that industry. He also has his own private network, which is VERY obvious. He bought 2
sites, with the same domain name, one is just a .us another is a .org. And most his backlinks
come from those 2 sites.
On the otherhand, I'm using a guy on WF who does private network links. And his links are
extremely powerful. It only took about 10-15 links to outrank this guy who's been doing SEO
for years. And I managed to outrank him for a solid 7-8 months, holding the #1 spot for
multiple keywords.
But as of now, my site has lost rank for many keywords, and his site is stronger than ever.
In the end, I barely see any differences because I tried to copy his strategy to a t.
The only differences I see -
1) His content is spun a bit better. It seems that 90% uniqueness isn't good enough these
days. And if you're going to spin content, you need MASSIVE seed articles. You need a
minimum of 99% uniqueness and you need to spin DEEP.
2) My network links were hidden and his aren't. This is something that confuses the hell
out of me. The guy who does my SEO hides his links from ahrefs, spyglass, majestic and
all backlink checkers. He does this to stop competitors from compromising his networks.
On the otherhand, my #1 competitor does not hide his network links. And he survived.
So at this point, I have NO IDEA what actually caused my site to tank.
People might say "its only a matter of time before your competitor gets hit", but I'll
put $1000 down that his site won't get hit within the next 3 years. On one hand, its one of
the spammiest sites on Google. On another hand, he obviously knows wtf he is doing. And
I would love for some SEO wiz to compare my site to his, then tell me how his site has
survived every single update.
I tried to mimic exactly what he was doing, and it worked, but only temporarily. So there is
something he's doing, that I seem to be missing. For anyone who cares, this guy is a major
scammer. He has been on tv twice for undercover operations by ABC and NBC. Both times
he was caught scamming his clients.
We also know from speaking to his previous clients that he has been arrested and brought
to court at least 3 times. 1 time he was arrested while doing an inspection. He wrote an
estimate, the clients weren't happy and told him to leave the house. He lowered the price,
refused to leave, starting arguing with the homeowners in the house, cops showed up and
arrested him. So this is my competition.
Our company has ALSO been on tv, on CBS, but we were praised for our work and received
lots of good publicity. We also have a great online reputation, while our #1 competitor has
tons of terrible reviews.
I won't write his exact site, but his site is moc.dlomsseltopsyletulosba (backwards).
Someone go look at that site, then explain to me how a site with that much spun content,
has managed to survive every single update for the last 5+ years. And if you'd like to see
my site, feel free to pm.
I'd really love to see what the more knowledgeable folks have to say about this.
Thanks - SB
One of my sites was hit back on August 9th, then 12 days later I gained all my rankings back.
I didn't change or do anything, and rankings went from page 10 and beyond all back into the
top 3.
This was before I heard news of any sort of update. So then October 4th rolls around and
that same site takes another hit, similar like on August 9th. This time the site is gone for 11
days, then comes back up into the top 3.
HOWEVER, about 5 days after that, it lost rank again, and hasn't come back up since.
It was very weird how the site lost rank. Almost like it got caught into some filter, then got
out of the filter, then got caught in another filter, got out again, then finally got taken down.
I was not using tiered backlinks but the site itself was about 70% spun content. However,
I spun all my content over 90% uniqueness. The reason I did this, my #1 competitor was
and is still using the same technique. I'd say about 80% of his site is spun content, but I'd
also say that his content is spun around 99%. He definitely used a much larger seed article
than I did. And his site survived this update.
So when you say "spun content is the reason", thats a very BROAD statement. Because
there are many different ways to spin content aside from synonyms. Like using completely
different phrases, completely different sentences and paragraphs.
All I know, in one of my niches the #1 ranking site looks like this -
25 pages of manually written content.
300 pages of DEEPLY spun geotargeted content.
That site has been ranking for 5+ years because thats how long I've been watching the SERPS
for that industry. He also has his own private network, which is VERY obvious. He bought 2
sites, with the same domain name, one is just a .us another is a .org. And most his backlinks
come from those 2 sites.
On the otherhand, I'm using a guy on WF who does private network links. And his links are
extremely powerful. It only took about 10-15 links to outrank this guy who's been doing SEO
for years. And I managed to outrank him for a solid 7-8 months, holding the #1 spot for
multiple keywords.
But as of now, my site has lost rank for many keywords, and his site is stronger than ever.
In the end, I barely see any differences because I tried to copy his strategy to a t.
The only differences I see -
1) His content is spun a bit better. It seems that 90% uniqueness isn't good enough these
days. And if you're going to spin content, you need MASSIVE seed articles. You need a
minimum of 99% uniqueness and you need to spin DEEP.
2) My network links were hidden and his aren't. This is something that confuses the hell
out of me. The guy who does my SEO hides his links from ahrefs, spyglass, majestic and
all backlink checkers. He does this to stop competitors from compromising his networks.
On the otherhand, my #1 competitor does not hide his network links. And he survived.
So at this point, I have NO IDEA what actually caused my site to tank.
People might say "its only a matter of time before your competitor gets hit", but I'll
put $1000 down that his site won't get hit within the next 3 years. On one hand, its one of
the spammiest sites on Google. On another hand, he obviously knows wtf he is doing. And
I would love for some SEO wiz to compare my site to his, then tell me how his site has
survived every single update.
I tried to mimic exactly what he was doing, and it worked, but only temporarily. So there is
something he's doing, that I seem to be missing. For anyone who cares, this guy is a major
scammer. He has been on tv twice for undercover operations by ABC and NBC. Both times
he was caught scamming his clients.
We also know from speaking to his previous clients that he has been arrested and brought
to court at least 3 times. 1 time he was arrested while doing an inspection. He wrote an
estimate, the clients weren't happy and told him to leave the house. He lowered the price,
refused to leave, starting arguing with the homeowners in the house, cops showed up and
arrested him. So this is my competition.
Our company has ALSO been on tv, on CBS, but we were praised for our work and received
lots of good publicity. We also have a great online reputation, while our #1 competitor has
tons of terrible reviews.
I won't write his exact site, but his site is moc.dlomsseltopsyletulosba (backwards).
Someone go look at that site, then explain to me how a site with that much spun content,
has managed to survive every single update for the last 5+ years. And if you'd like to see
my site, feel free to pm.
I'd really love to see what the more knowledgeable folks have to say about this.
Thanks - SB
