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PBN Sellers Linked To Each Other
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Bedbug
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Ninjas are drop shipping PBNs LOL !!!
That list is scary man and they are damn expensive.... PBN selling must be one of the top earning services in Blackhat currently.
I am thinking of starting a PBN service here, i will charge 150 USD for 15 Post...then ima buy them at chaper prices from Fiver? This is very sad indeed!!
That list is scary man and they are damn expensive.... PBN selling must be one of the top earning services in Blackhat currently.
I am thinking of starting a PBN service here, i will charge 150 USD for 15 Post...then ima buy them at chaper prices from Fiver? This is very sad indeed!!
intiims1132
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And sites with your links dont get penalized
Lol, some do from time to time, it's actually impossible to avoid entirely. Especially at the scale we run things (over 3000 domains in our PBN).
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whiteblackseo
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Haha 3k domains Give me a review copy lol
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ThopHayt
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Some cleanup is in order, but I also think that part of the beauty of BHW is that it is a relatively free space. And as such there should be a bit of BUYER BEWARE, because after all this is blackhat SEO. If you're too stupid to realize that pointing 100 $1/link PBNs at your money site will result in some shit links then that is what I call "survival of the fittest."
Cracking down on selling the same links across networks, and making BS claims is fine... but you'll never stop a idiot from being parted from his money. So lets not get carried away.
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Cracking down on selling the same links across networks, and making BS claims is fine... but you'll never stop a idiot from being parted from his money. So lets not get carried away.
-ThopHayt
gman777
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You're right(better be safe than sorry), but let's not take one example and apply to every single mod. Being a mod carry responsibilities, and from my knowledge, they ain't getting paid at all, so they are working for free, and they are doing a great job.
Being a mod increases the trustworthiness of that BST, resulting in more sales blah blah and hence the scamming potential...so the difference between jr. vip and a moderator would be that a mod could steal at a larger scale and for an extended timeframe(as shown in the bigbuddy case, even if reported it takes a while...)
But, let's take odds in consideration:
I'm more likely to see 10-15 reputable members going on the dark side before I see a mod doing so.
Anyway, taking that incentive away would put a MOD at greater inferiority, and they are left with what?
A red name that I easily confound with "banned" color, and maybe the pride of "look son, I'm superior than you" which I doubt it's the case with the BHW's beloved MODS, as they prove more maturity than anyone.
I know, I know, it's not your fault cuz they chose to contribute to forum without expecting anything in return, but at least they should get the benefits of a normal user, right?
I remember Apricot saying that mods are reviewed 5x-10x times harder than a regular seller.
P.S: how many times did I said mod?
drogon
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Not saying a MOD should forfeit their income. I am saying they should not have been made a MOD in the first place. The current MODs who are also service providers became MODs AFTER launching their BSTs.
The conflict of interest covers alot more than what you listed and never said to apply one example to every single MOD. Even before BB went to the dark side it is something that seems to me common sense.
ThopHayt
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The problem there is that some of the most reputed and oldest members here sell on the side here. As long as the mods who approve threads aren't approving their own threads I am not too suspicious.
I trust DD to keep his mods on a leash, especially given how they took action against BB... who was one of the oldest standing mods around. If BB could be held responsible any mod would be. BHW isn't perfect, but ownership runs a tighter ship than I think people realize.
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Interesting thing to bring up OP!
I have indeed noticed very suspicious behavior across several BST's you mentioned were there are also members bumping multiple times the same BST's within minutes of each other with purchase confirmations just to get the OP's BST to the top as long as day can throughout the day.
So indeed it seems that these guys are not only sharing their PBN networks but also sharing possible fake accounts to leave purchase bumps, fake reviews etc.
But as IKNOWSEO mentioned, the marketplace mods are all indeed working hard on cracking down on this stuff and IKS and Apricot are doing their due diligence around the clock to bring an end to this.
Just continue to "report" the individual posts and the mods will take care of it. Trust me, they are just as concerned as you are about the integrity of this forum and specially the marketplace which is the main source of revenue for BHW.
Best wishes to all,
Mark
I have indeed noticed very suspicious behavior across several BST's you mentioned were there are also members bumping multiple times the same BST's within minutes of each other with purchase confirmations just to get the OP's BST to the top as long as day can throughout the day.
So indeed it seems that these guys are not only sharing their PBN networks but also sharing possible fake accounts to leave purchase bumps, fake reviews etc.
But as IKNOWSEO mentioned, the marketplace mods are all indeed working hard on cracking down on this stuff and IKS and Apricot are doing their due diligence around the clock to bring an end to this.
Just continue to "report" the individual posts and the mods will take care of it. Trust me, they are just as concerned as you are about the integrity of this forum and specially the marketplace which is the main source of revenue for BHW.
Best wishes to all,
Mark
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drogon
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Ok, you can approve my thread and i will approve your thread
Actually i do have a lot of respect and trust for some MOD/BST sellers like BTB....but just saying its not healthy to do both as a forum overall.
gman777
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Ok, you can approve my thread and i will approve your thread
Actually i do have a lot of respect and trust for some MOD/BST sellers like BTB....but just saying its not healthy to do both as a forum overall.
Anyway, somebody has to be on the duty of a mod. If he decides to go on the dark side, then he will be able to scam people, regardless.
He can approve his BST made with a dummy VIP account, or he can partnership with other scrupulous members, just like BB did.
ThePozatoOne
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Who is the overlord here at BHW? The power must be centralized in the hands of one person.
ThatSEO
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Sorry but those who are saying mods shouldn't be sellers because of people like that BigBuddy
If you read the posts by @Apricot he/she asked a fair few times for members to say why/how BB scammed members and their last post in the shit list thread stated that no-one would back up their claim and BB still got banned!
It's pretty clear that some (ones I've seen) will in fact turn 'on their own'
As for a mod being competitors in the market place...if your service is better than a mods then that will infact shine through, if a mod who happens to be a competitor tries to piss in your thread, get another mod involved? They do and have turned on their own... the proofs clearly written down!!
If you read the posts by @Apricot he/she asked a fair few times for members to say why/how BB scammed members and their last post in the shit list thread stated that no-one would back up their claim and BB still got banned!
It's pretty clear that some (ones I've seen) will in fact turn 'on their own'
As for a mod being competitors in the market place...if your service is better than a mods then that will infact shine through, if a mod who happens to be a competitor tries to piss in your thread, get another mod involved? They do and have turned on their own... the proofs clearly written down!!
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