PBN Sellers Linked To Each Other

drogon said:

This is just one of many problems in the service section.

1) Almost all links guaranteed to be deindexed within 1 or 2 months...so what is the point of approving and keeping services live when their links do not last more than a couple of months.

2) Service providers who are also allowed to be MODs....conflict of interest anyone? Example - Bigbuddy! MODs should NOT also be service providers.

3) No spot checks of services. Some services who provided a report to MOD 6 months to a year ago are now selling completely different links.

4) Service providers being allowed to repost their orignal sales page to drown out negative reviews and also with 'fake' pics of recent client rankings.

5) Fake positive reviews from 'friends' of the service provider.

6) Service providers begging for their thread to be bumped up via Skype or PM or insisting/demanding you post your Transaction ID on the thread.

7) Once you buy a service on BHW, you start getting 'make easy money now' junk/spam mail with links to god know where.

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xReminisce said:

I was originally not gonna post but imma put out my 2 cent
Lately i was looking for quite a few quality copywriting services aswell as social signals
i had to NOT exaggerating at all go through PAGES AND PAGES of "i want coupon" or "sample plz" or "i want review copy" (yes the thread been out likee 12031031 months ago and these ppl still asking for review copies like they are entitled to it). It is quite frustrating as a buyer to spend hours on end just to find 2-3 reviews outta a 50 page thread. (not including the initial reviews copies given out)
Luckily for social signal, i found @Nargil post so i went and bothered him about the service
As for copy writing, still looking !
and as for PBNs, yeah, that place is even more of a nightmare to actually find reviews.
I do understand, alot of people MAY not post any reviews at all but they are quite a few people who would post it if they are happy with the service. And for buyers like myself who goes looking around for a good service, reviews from on-going customers are the best judge. Not how good the infographic is, or how impressive the website is. or if the person is a mod, JR VIP or Premium member.
But i only stick to the trusted PBN sellers now (i have done business in the past and deemed great) for extra link juice
Others, i use for burn sites since... this shit happens way to much, using fiveer gigs and reselling pbn crap or just simply terrible pbn links.

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1. Higher monthly fee for a BST thread
2. Members who receive shit services actually posting in the thread that they received a shit service, and explaining in detail why
3. People having to publicly respond in a shitlist thread vs being able to bitch out and quietly try and resolve via PM for weeks and weeks

Sherbert Hoover said:

This is the kind of shit that has been going on for a while here.

While there needs to definitely be a solid "marketplace reform", members need to realize that there are very few people running the BST, and that they are working their asses off just to keep up.

Members complain about things like this consistently, and mods ask for more information, and then those same members never send the necessary information to back up their point.

If there were three things I could change about how services works on this site they would be:

1. Higher monthly fee for a BST thread
2. Members who receive shit services actually posting in the thread that they received a shit service, and explaining in detail why
3. People having to publicly respond in a shitlist thread vs being able to bitch out and quietly try and resolve via PM for weeks and weeks

Other than the above, things are slowly being fixed and renovated. Shit, don't you guys remember when @Apricot went in and closed thousands and thousands of threads of people who were selling without paying the annual fee? That was a big step.

But members of this community need to step up, do their own due diligence, not buy services called fuckin' "LADY GAGA GOOGLE RIDER", and report issues they see instead of quietly and anonymously complaining. Threads like these are great, and are a huge step to a higher quality BHW, but we need to all work together, support our moderation team, and assist when possible with issues such as this.

This is first and foremost a community of people sharing information and joining in discussion. It's not Fiverr.

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Sherbert Hoover said:

Members complain about things like this consistently, and mods ask for more information, and then those same members never send the necessary information to back up their point.

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Sherbert Hoover said:

But members of this community need to step up, do their own due diligence, not buy services called fuckin' "LADY GAGA GOOGLE RIDER", and report issues they see instead of quietly and anonymously complaining. Threads like these are great, and are a huge step to a higher quality BHW, but we need to all work together, support our moderation team, and assist when possible with issues such as this.
This is first and foremost a community of people sharing information and joining in discussion. It's not Fiverr.

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1. What I do now is to first have a list of things I need. (I call it my shopping cart list. Without this, its like going to a super market with a full wallet and no idea on what you need. You end up with things or BST's you don't need. So, example: Month 1: PR services, SMM links, PBN's).
2. Armed with this list, I just keep a lookout for any BST's that come out. In many cases, you can find two or more BST's offering the same thing with a different mix. I just compare the prices and the service they give and at times call out to the other thread and ask why the BST is cheaper/expensive than the other. The BST I like and based on the response I click on 'Watch thread'
3. Other factors are the age of the BST (some 2013 BST's get bumped in 2017 and its easy to fall prey to these, depending on the service some are irrelevant in this time)
4. Doing a quick profile check of the seller always helps to see if they have contributed to other parts of BHW and if they did, you can get a fair idea of how well they know their stuff. (There are many BHW sellers who actually know what they are doing and you can find them contributing in their area of expertise)
5. Ask questions. Ask samples where applicable. In most cases, I was able to weed out rude responses or responses that don't read the query properly. This itself tells a lot. Asking for samples also helps to match expectations. (For example, I know a PR service provider's BST was cheap cos the distribution was not that big and most of the PR links were no follow. Another PR service provider had higher pricing and of course better distribution and more do follow links.)
6. Follow some people. I have found some BHW members who are quite good when it comes to giving BST reviews and in most cases they are not the discount copy folks. Their reviews at times touches on topics most discount copy reviewers tend not to focus on.

I know SEO said:

This x1000.

This thread is now 8 pages deep.

Only 1 person has actually sent me information I can use to investigate.

1 person...

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Nargil said:

I agree with this. Considering the nature of the service I provide, I am unable to do any kind of "post in the thread and ask for coupon to get it" crap. Not sure how this is still allowed for example. You want to see some reviews in the thread and you have to go through 5 pages of "coupon plz" to even read a decent review from someone with account older than a few days.

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Zwielicht said:

• Moderators typically don't touch their own BST threads to keep the peanut gallery quiet. @t0mmy in particular doesn't ever moderate his own threads. This is something I can confirm as I've viewed the reports he's sent in.

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