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Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by TheGreene, Jun 20, 2017.

  1. TheGreene

    TheGreene Junior Member

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    In the past months, after FRED Update shafted my website I lost all my motivation for Internet marketing for 3 months. I completely took a 3 month break lol and Im back..

    Are PBN's still working for you? Also how long do u wait when you make the PBN to outbound link to your money site? -- Matt Digity posted recently you need to wait 36+ days MINIMUM before linking out..
     
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    rankings not back? dayum
     
  3. TheGreene

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    lolololol, no the rankings did come back good ol sir, however I pointed TOXIC PBN's that destroyed me, I also tried adding new PBN's which i linked out straight away to get my rankings back ASAP but that just destroyed everything and got filtered.. I then discovered Matt Diggity's article that if u linkout before 36+ days his case study's showed even GREAT PBN' domains became toxic..
     
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    yeah exactly ! thats why people use pbns for nseo now
     
  5. TheGreene

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    #gotdicked. So u don't use PBN's anymore?
     
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    I'm sorry I didn't get it....When you create a PBN you have to wait 36+ days in order to place links on the homepage of PBN's or articles? I want to create a small PBN but this is the first time that I get involved with PBN's and I want to get it right...
     
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    Don't use "toxic" PBNs and you will be fine. You learned the hard way not to cut the corners.
     
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    fishkin waits 28 days. but he blasts his or his friends site with penalized PBNs..
    maybe thats the new "traffic hack 2017" to confuse the google algo.. sprinkle some "bad mushrooms" into the mix..
     
  9. TheGreene

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    These domains become "TOXIC" if not used correctly. Just like in my situation did not wait 36+ days and got filtered.

    Who's fiskin?
     
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    No idea where you got this from, but I am laughing hard on "36+ days". That's as guru crap as it gets.

    I love that exact number. Not 35, not 30, but 36.
     
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    it cant be from WF, otherwise it would have been 17, 27 or 37 days ..
     
  12. TheGreene

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    I get the 36 days from Matt Diggity,
    http://diggitymarketing.com/expired-domain-test/

    I'm not saying he is right, im just saying he does case studies and thats better than going in blind. I rather listen to something thats been somewhat tested and theory than not having one.

    I personally just setup a PBN and index right away with My money site. However recently iv noticed more and more are actually causing a DE-RANK then anyting.
     
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    I also im curious why fishkin( looked up his thread ) waited 28 days.. before posting
     
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    ROFL!

    What should I understand by "index right away"?
     
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    Dont trust the guru crap, no fixed period for Google, get quality domains and vary the way you link out for diversity.
     
  16. darulez

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    maybe you should PM him. please forward me his message .
     
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    At this point, I think we can all agree that if we were to send an exact match “John and Bonnie wedding registry” to this healthy domain, we are definitely going to see a ranking increase.

    That is… if the PBN is good.

    This entire process is outlined "


    well, that is utter bullshit... target page hitting the wall of on page over optimisation OPOO and anchor linked with commercial keyword will also cause ranking dropps..

    so much for "seobloggers.."

    oh, didnt have to read further. screenshots show the fuckup in detail:

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    way to go buddy. 9/12 sites fucked up.


    reading further, spotting next bullshit:

    "oing with my hunch, I wanted to run another test.

    First I removed the links that were going to the first set of target test sites.

    Then, I identified 12 more target test sites and simply sent them same PBNs to these new sites."


    Here are the results, which started showing in just three weeks this time:


    "removing links" will be NEEDING a waiting period of at least 6-10 weeks. dont asks me "where" I got that data from. just think "I found that out myself" instead of re-gobbling bullshit seoblogs.




    omg.......

    "
    There is an algorithmic filter that will cause expired domains to cause penalties when linked from too soon after indexing.

    But after a certain time threshold has passed, expired domains work perfectly fine.

    What is that threshold?

    The shortest data point that I’ve uncovered (so far) is 36 days."


    morron drops links after 8 weeks cause they "hurt the target site"... and sets them to somewhere else and now all of them (!!!) improve rankings after 3 weeks.
    conclusion? "must be a waiting time penalty"

    reality? random ranking factor spotted..

    conclusion? give a fuck for 12 weeks after links have been placed..
     
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  18. spider4567

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    idk what you're talking about, but as soon as i get my pbn, i just link to my money site, it's been 2 years all 30 pbn is still doing fine.
     
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    Yeah, everyone kisses diggitys ass on facebook groups and he is one of the gooroos spreading all kinds of shit about PBN's making them sound more complicated than they need to be. If he really wanted to test a links effectiveness from a PBN he should have left it there and continued banging away for another few weeks atleast, there is no telling what the rankings would have done. Naming them "toxic" after 8 weeks is a joke, IMO links are taking a lot longer to pass any juice, and seems to vary tremendously.

    I have gotten links from "authority" sites which are actually real outreach links or paid links that don't openly advertise guest posting. They tend to start having an effect early on with my rankings going all over the place for a few weeks, flatline, and then jump after another few weeks. In some cases, its 2-4 months before I start seeing jumps, but in rare cases things seem to happen a lot quicker. Just Google being an emotional little cunt, but that's to be expected now with everyone raping it with links and indexing tools and shitty gsa spam lmao.
     
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    i put a link on expired webs immedietely and no problem lol.