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Paypal Nightmare Need Advice

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by zoomsixx, Apr 30, 2012.

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  1. zoomsixx

    zoomsixx Senior Member Premium Member

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    I have looked at other Paypal posts and found out quite a bit of info. I need specific advice however.

    I'm looking for info about how to get an account "un-limited" of course.

    My account was just limited with over 6k in it.

    The account is in a friends name, with their consent of course.

    I had pulled in most of the funds from a linked bank account. I'm regretting this deeply at this point.

    I sell accounts, Facebook, Gmail. Yahoo etc.. I also sell Fans, Plus Ones. All services though.

    I had sent $10 to someone who had their account frozen right before my account was limited.

    They want lots of info to get the account back to good standing.

    • Photo ID
    • Bank account statement
    • Proof of address
    • Invoices
    • Supplier Contact Info
    • Proof of SSN
    • Business Information (a note that says alternatives available)
    • Proof of delivery
    • More information about payments

    While most of this is easy to get since the account is legitimate I'm a little worried about invoices, supplier contact info, business info and more info about payments. Has anyone here ever been limited to this extent? What can I send them? Maybe it's a lost cause at this point and the account should just be closed. I'm desperate for advice.
     
  2. zoomsixx

    zoomsixx Senior Member Premium Member

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    Anyone? Please, some advice would be appreciated.
     
  3. backontrack

    backontrack Power Member

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    Ill try my best to help you because i understand how it feels for people to get banned, Make sure to give them a call.
     
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  4. EmpireQuality

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    this is only going to bring you big trouble, unfortunately. i went through a similar situation and had THREE paypal accounts banned in the end. i hate to say it but this stage is always before getting banned and here's why: paypal does not like virtual products. if they feel that the products you sell are not "safe" then they can and will ban you quickly for no other legitimate reason. anyways, provide all of the information that you can and talk to them on the phone. just try to convince them that your account is good and safe because that's about all you can do. i learned my lesson about paypal and will NEVER be doing business with them ever again
     
  5. shaddelick

    shaddelick Regular Member

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    If you have your friends consent, why dont you provide as much information as he is willing to provide? If your friend doesnt feel comfortable with providing certain info, just dont provide it. Call them up and let them know you were selling a service, but it has to be in there TOS. If its against there TOS to sell email accounts, which i think is the case, dont admit to selling those, just say you were selling SEO service such as backlinks. Be friendly with the rep and let them know that you are a real person and if you can provide most of the info you should fine. What you sold isnt so bad so i see a good amount of hope for you. Next time dont leave money sitting in your paypal, thats a no no
     
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  6. zoomsixx

    zoomsixx Senior Member Premium Member

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    My friend is more than willing to provide all of the info. I'm more worried about the invoices, supplier contact info and proof of delivery. I don't even know where to start on what I can provide them.
     
  7. zoomsixx

    zoomsixx Senior Member Premium Member

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    Are Facebook likes, Twitter followers and services like that against their TOS?
     
  8. shaddelick

    shaddelick Regular Member

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    You were providing a service, you dont have those kinds of info. They are asking that kind of info for all those people selling knock offs and bootleg things, so they ask for that info. Make sure you have your story and your friends info straight and can answer without a stutter before you call them
     
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    I dont know bout those exact services, those might be fine. But I have herd selling gmails and yahoo accounts are
     
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    If they are asking for ALL of those specifics instead of just for a few of them, you are likely being set up for a ban. Get your friend to supply them or even pay him, and call Paypal as well, but it looks like they don't like your account, and can say afterwords that they simply had "security concerns" and had to deny your appeal. If much of those 6k funds roared into the account suddenly or 'suspiciously,' that could be an additional 'security' rationale for their not restoring the account.

    The way internet contracts go with many sites is, if you violate X,Y or Z of the TOS, you're subject to being shut down, BUT the site reserves the right to kill your account for any or no reason. YOU get limits put on you, but they have none as far as the handling of accounts. If/when they deny your appeal, you might try to see if you can get a lawyer to formally or informally put some heat on them to release your funds prior to the 180 days. Otherwise, you'll just have to wait.
     
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    Just had the same thing happen to me. I haven't had a chance to call them yet, but they're requesting the same kind of info. In my case, it was physical products being sold. But they were drop shipped from a supplier, whom I'm waiting to hear from as they have the details about proof of shipment. As previously mentioned, as long as everything is legit and not against Paypal's TOS, this is only an inconvenience, not the end of the world.

    Good luck!
     
  12. ByTor

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    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it's not common for Paypal to release funds, regardless of what you submit to them. By all means, do all you can, of course, but according to their evil TOS, they don't have to do anything.

    I had a long established PP account, my business started booming, resulting in a sudden spike in activity.
    I'm starting to relax, money is good, life is good..
    I'm out to dinner with the GF at a restaurant where they don't bother printing prices on the menu, and then.. just as we were finishing off the shrimp cocktail, my Blackberry vibrates: a nasty-gram from Paypal.
    Everything changed in that moment.
    My first REAL lesson in IM. Paypal is not a bank, they are not regulated like a bank, therefore, they can legally be the bastards that they are. I HATE Paypal. They have destroyed countless businesses and lives arbitrarily. It's going to take a hell of a lot more than being courteous to a Paypal phone rep. Trust me, I have been through the nightmare you have on your hands now. And for your own sanity's sake, don't try to make sense of this, or find the logic in what they do.

    But, you need advice, so here is mine:
    -First, you need real information about Paypal. There is a website you need to see. Go to Paypalsucks. I am not able to include the url, so just Google it. The info you will see will be a real eye-opener.
    -Getting Your Money. Here's a way I was able to get at most of my money quickly but won't work in every situation. About half of my funds were from two of my clients and I had an ongoing relationship with them. So I called each one, told them there was a glitch between Paypal and my bank, told them to submit a request for a refund, then I approved it, they got their money back, and repaid me via another service (Alertpay.) This works, but ONLY if you have that relationship with the client. BTW, Alertpay (and others) have similar clauses buried in their TOS, so be careful. Wait to do this, only after all other efforts have failed.
    -Your future moves should include setting up accounts with Paypal alternatives, keep balances low and spread out. There should be detailed info throughout BH on those methods including new Paypal accounts if you feel you must have them in the mix. (I structured my business around NOT using them.) I wish you well. It kills me to see yet someone else go through this.
     
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  13. zoomsixx

    zoomsixx Senior Member Premium Member

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    The majority of the funds in the account were imported from a linked bank account. I had imported more a few days ago and sent them to another Paypal account which cleared, then I tried to move more. I think this is what threw up flags. I was trying to move too much money around. All of the funds are legit though so maybe they just want to verify the account holder. I can only hope.
     
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    Ibet 100$ your fucked and need wait 180 days to get your money back since they are asking pretty much for all possible stuff they can think of. Though i really hope you can work out something by calling them.
     
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    You are about to get your account banned. They then can hold the funds for 180 days. Avoid PayPal whenever possible.
     
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    They did this to me on 2 accounts, both legit with my real papers etc. I'm now waiting those freaking 180 days to clear about 4.5k but one thing is clear - no more pp for me. I was only doing IM services, nothing related to products.

    There are dozens of other processors and already started using MB, payoneer etc at full potential. If pp doesn't like your money stop using their shitty service.
     
  17. ByTor

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    The moving around of funds is probably what sent up the red flag, especially if there has been any connection between the two Paypal accounts. In addition to the aforementioned website, I would strongly urge you to check out the Screw-Paypal website prior to beginning your communication with PP. The site is packed with info, including a free downloadable book explaining how to increase your odds of avoiding a lock/banning of your account. And no, I have no connection with either site. It's just that any enemy of Paypal is a friend of mine. They also monitor and report on current class-action lawsuits against both Paypal and Ebay and that just Rocks.
     
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    A lot of people on this forum are great at photo shopping things to make them look legit. Give one of them a try.
     
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    I hate Paypal, they did a similar thing to me where they froze my account with money in it for a long time, took me forever to get it back. They also froze a clients account with about 30K in it.

    Unfortunately, they do whatever they want.
     
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    I've been banned before while giving 100% real documents, calling 10+ times, and giving above and beyond everything they needed. Paypal suck.

    Have you had many disputes or chargebacks?
     
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