PayPal Account Banned? Congratulations!

Move to crypto based payment, use trc20 protocol, almost zero fee b
Exactly!
Easier with WordPress ad there are a lot of plugins that eliminates the middle man. So you get funds sent straight into your crypto wallet on transaction by transaction basis.
 
Good list you've got there.

Ranking the processors based on my personal experience. Excluding PayPal ofc.

1.Stripe
2. Paddle
3. Payoneer
4. Flutterwave.


Wise has been a bad boy to me. Wouldn't reconmend.
What experiences did you have with Wise?
 
The problem is that PayPal is an absolute necessity for many sellers due to the nature of their goods or services. Anything that requires great trust from a buyer is more likely to succeed if you receive payment through PayPal. My advice is for you to introduce other payment options alongside PayPal and try to steer your customers towards that option, if necessary offer some incentives like a discount for using that option.
 
You need to use a mix of PayPal and other payment options, then gradually steer your customers towards the more reliable option.
 
The problem is that PayPal is an absolute necessity for many sellers due to the nature of their goods or services. Anything that requires great trust from a buyer is more likely to succeed if you receive payment through PayPal. My advice is for you to introduce other payment options alongside PayPal and try to steer your customers towards that option, if necessary offer some incentives like a discount for using that option.
You need to use a mix of PayPal and other payment options, then gradually steer your customers towards the more reliable option.
I agree with you guys, this is also a clever way to do it.
Stripe is the best
Undoubtedly, tho I started using them recently and I'm liking their services and how smooth it is for me to run my digital business with Stripe. Do you also use Stripe?
 
Cool off cool off... dude

I don't feel sorry for you. I only feel sorry for the money locked in your banned PP account.

Now is the time to explore limitless opportunities as you can now leave your payment gateway comfort zone. It's seriously gonna be hard. I understand but you will thank yourself later when you finally find many more alternatives better than PayPal. Yes, PayPal is flexible and ditches its merchants in favor of the buyers most of the time, even if the buyers are scammy.

I spent 4 years of my life with PayPal. Did nothing illegal but was in the stealth mode with them for years until I had to file tax returns and many other legal sht a sane human being from a PP unsupported country doesn't want to deal with. It's not worth the entire hassles. All the back and forth dispute claims, charges, losses, short term profits. Yes, you can say all you want, "get all the stealth doc ready... and blah blah.." but that also won't last. Just forget it. You don't want to learn the hard way. I have read thousands and thousands of stories on how Paypal got even legit accounts frozen erroneously with their fraud algo. It's bs.

Stop Using Shit to Fix Shit

Once your PayPal gets banned, it's time to move on to a new payment processor. Not stealth PayPal (shit). There are countless number alternative merchant accounts with different levels of difficulty to get approved in each of them. Undoubtedly like Paypal, this also depends on your type of business and jurisdiction. But by far better than PayPal, favorable to merchants a bit more, and won't ban you overnight unless you are doing something really really shady or unsupported. Here is a summary of some payment gateway alternatives to PayPal with their use case.

PayPal Alternatives
  • Stripe - Services and SaaS
  • 2checkout - Services and SaaS
  • PayOP - Services and SaaS
  • Wise - Wire, freelance
  • Payoneer - ACH, wire, freelance
  • Paddle - for SaaS
  • Coinbase - for Crypto
  • Flutterwave - Services and SaaS
  • CCBill - Services and SaaS
  • A lot more and more...almost endless as FinTech keeps evolving.
Again, you should check with each payment gateway to be sure of what is allowed and not allowed rather than suddenly meeting the unexpected BS you've always complained about since day #1. One thing I believe is this: no matter where you are in the world, there is always a payment processor suitable for you and your business on this planet. You just have to find it... now that's the tricky part. Finding a payment processor can take weeks, months, and even years. I was well aware that my PayPal would come to an end 3 years long before it got banned. In those three years, I have been actively searching to fck a new gateway like a btch.

What I learned

Get real from the onset! Unless your motive is ulterior- scamming people [which I strongly discourage], you should be spending your money on getting some real legal docs for your digital or physical business rather than investing the same or even more on stealth PP docs that won't last. Make sure everything checks out as real as possible: incorporation doc (you can get it from online services like IncFile etc), set up a business account with those incorporation docs (Wise, Payoneer, RelayFinance, and Mercury are your friends). All these can be sorted within 2-4 weeks.

This option might be a little bit more on the expensive side than getting stealth docs for a churn and burn PayPal, but you will have 95% more peace of mind and the feeling of getting real and not having to hide your a** unnecessarily. You can even land an investor. Com'on baby, be proud of yourself and all your efforts.
I do not consider Paypal Inc. a great payment processor, not even good.

If your business is registered in America, QuickBooks is a most excellent option for honest companies. I have spoken with many of my small business clients. They tell me QuickBooks has been instrumental to their record-keeping/payment collection and integrated with TurboTax, software used for filing your tax returns in America. Quickbooks, by default, allows you to accept credit cards and ACH!

If Paypal Inc. no longer wants to be your friend, choose a lifelong business partner QuickBooks!
 
I do not consider Paypal Inc. a great payment processor, not even good.

If your business is registered in America, QuickBooks is a most excellent option for honest companies. I have spoken with many of my small business clients. They tell me QuickBooks has been instrumental to their record-keeping/payment collection and integrated with TurboTax, software used for filing your tax returns in America. Quickbooks, by default, allows you to accept credit cards and ACH!

If Paypal Inc. no longer wants to be your friend, choose a lifelong business partner QuickBooks!
This looks like one of the best pieces of advice for a US business that needs to file a tax return.
 
Cool off cool off... dude

I don't feel sorry for you. I only feel sorry for the money locked in your banned PP account.

Now is the time to explore limitless opportunities as you can now leave your payment gateway comfort zone. It's seriously gonna be hard. I understand but you will thank yourself later when you finally find many more alternatives better than PayPal. Yes, PayPal is flexible and ditches its merchants in favor of the buyers most of the time, even if the buyers are scammy.

I spent 4 years of my life with PayPal. Did nothing illegal but was in the stealth mode with them for years until I had to file tax returns and many other legal sht a sane human being from a PP unsupported country doesn't want to deal with. It's not worth the entire hassles. All the back and forth dispute claims, charges, losses, short term profits. Yes, you can say all you want, "get all the stealth doc ready... and blah blah.." but that also won't last. Just forget it. You don't want to learn the hard way. I have read thousands and thousands of stories on how Paypal got even legit accounts frozen erroneously with their fraud algo. It's bs.

Stop Using Shit to Fix Shit

Once your PayPal gets banned, it's time to move on to a new payment processor. Not stealth PayPal (shit). There are countless number alternative merchant accounts with different levels of difficulty to get approved in each of them. Undoubtedly like Paypal, this also depends on your type of business and jurisdiction. But by far better than PayPal, favorable to merchants a bit more, and won't ban you overnight unless you are doing something really really shady or unsupported. Here is a summary of some payment gateway alternatives to PayPal with their use case.

PayPal Alternatives
  • Stripe - Services and SaaS
  • 2checkout - Services and SaaS
  • PayOP - Services and SaaS
  • Wise - Wire, freelance
  • Payoneer - ACH, wire, freelance
  • Paddle - for SaaS
  • Coinbase - for Crypto
  • Flutterwave - Services and SaaS
  • CCBill - Services and SaaS
  • A lot more and more...almost endless as FinTech keeps evolving.
Again, you should check with each payment gateway to be sure of what is allowed and not allowed rather than suddenly meeting the unexpected BS you've always complained about since day #1. One thing I believe is this: no matter where you are in the world, there is always a payment processor suitable for you and your business on this planet. You just have to find it... now that's the tricky part. Finding a payment processor can take weeks, months, and even years. I was well aware that my PayPal would come to an end 3 years long before it got banned. In those three years, I have been actively searching to fck a new gateway like a btch.

What I learned

Get real from the onset! Unless your motive is ulterior- scamming people [which I strongly discourage], you should be spending your money on getting some real legal docs for your digital or physical business rather than investing the same or even more on stealth PP docs that won't last. Make sure everything checks out as real as possible: incorporation doc (you can get it from online services like IncFile etc), set up a business account with those incorporation docs (Wise, Payoneer, RelayFinance, and Mercury are your friends). All these can be sorted within 2-4 weeks.

This option might be a little bit more on the expensive side than getting stealth docs for a churn and burn PayPal, but you will have 95% more peace of mind and the feeling of getting real and not having to hide your a** unnecessarily. You can even land an investor. Com'on baby, be proud of yourself and all your efforts.
I can't believe I'm reading this in 2022. Are you a time traveler from 2009? Haven't you heard about crypto? Why would you want to pay someone for keeping your money for you? :)
 
I can't believe I'm reading this in 2022. Are you a time traveler from 2009? Haven't you heard about crypto? Why would you want to pay someone for keeping your money for you? :)
The point is to first move to something a bit more known than entirely new solution like crypto. I believe it should be a gradual migration as @ProxyPayee said.
 
Exactly!
Easier with WordPress ad there are a lot of plugins that eliminates the middle man. So you get funds sent straight into your crypto wallet on transaction by transaction basis.


Do you have any recommendations we can work with? We're currently using GoURL and they hold the money till 0.001 BTC, With BTC value going up there has been no change in minimum withdrawal.
 
Make sure everything checks out as real as possible: incorporation doc (you can get it from online services like IncFile etc), set up a business account with those incorporation docs (Wise, Payoneer, RelayFinance, and Mercury are your friends). All these can be sorted within 2-4 weeks.

What benefits can we get from this ? our business more trusted ? Is it difficult to make a business account ?
 
Do you have any recommendations we can work with? We're currently using GoURL and they hold the money till 0.001 BTC, With BTC value going up there has been no change in minimum withdrawal.
I think you should try Coinqvest. It's super amazing! Check if they allow your jurisdiction. That's what I have been using for crypto payment processing. In fact, I offer multiple options on my site now, for convenience:

Stripe
Coinqvest
Payoneer
Wise

You can even use Shoppy to process crypto and get payment sent into your wallets (BTC, ETH, LTC). No middle man. But their fee is a bit high but it's peace of mind. In fact you may want to send the payments into a hard wallet like Metamask, Trustwallet etc. My 2 cents.
 
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Crypto is probably the best alternative

Binance pay allows fund transfer with zero fees
I can't dispute this.
What benefits can we get from this ? our business more trusted ? Is it difficult to make a business account ?
Trust, fulfilment of application requirements for most Payment processors esp. American. Yes it would be difficult to make a business account without going the legal route like this. Otherwise, you should be looking to do Crypto only. "Crypto exclusively" is great if your business model is naturally inclined towards crypto (e.g SMM, CBD/THC, casino, etc hope you get the idea).
 
I dont know nothing about making 5 or more figures per month, but for 4 figures a month just use them all and spread payments.

What you want is to be a tiny fish in many large ponds. Fly under the radar.


Be smart and slick with it, and youll be all right.
 
I can't believe I'm reading this in 2022. Are you a time traveler from 2009? Haven't you heard about crypto? Why would you want to pay someone for keeping your money for you? :)
crypto is obv good, but subscription helps business scale without headache. if one time payments, then crypto is the best choice
 
This is a list I made a couple years ago. If a couple don't work anymore don't shoot the messenger. I didn't take the time to re-check each one.

1 http://www.payza.com

2 http://www.noca.com/

3 https://www.paydivvy.com/Default.aspx

4 https://www.wepay.com/

5 http://www.gopaytoo.com/

6 https://www.serve.com/

7 https://www.v.me/

8 https://www.dwolla.com/home

9 https://payments.amazon.com/sdui/sdui/personal/money?tag=gmgamzn-20

10 https://checkout.google.com

11 https://www.xoom.com/

12 http://www.2checkout.com/

13 http://www.clickbank.com/index.html

14 https://www.moneybookers.com

15 https://epay.propay.com/

16 https://www.ikobo.com/

17 http://www.libertyreserve.com/

18 http://www.nochex.com/

19 http://www.gspay.com/

20 http://www.ccnow.com/

21 http://www.shareit.com/

22 http://www.ccbill.com/

23 http://kagi.com/index.php

24 https://ibill.net/default.aspx

25 http://www.adyen.com/

26 http://www.vindicia.com/

27 http://www.clickandbuy.com/WW_en/home.html

28 http://www.neteller.com/

29 http://www.payoneer.com/

30 http://www.paypoint.com/

31 http://www.bigcommerce.com/

32 http://www.verotel.com/

33 http://home.plimus.com/ecommerce/

34 https://www.braintreepayments.com/

35 http://www.mycommerce.com/Solutions_SWREG_Overview.aspx

36 http://www.shareit.com/

37 http://www.fastspring.com/

38 http://www.payvment.com/

39 http://www.click2sell.eu/

40 http://www.clicksure.com

41 https://www.paxum.com/payment/index.php?view=views/index.xsl

42 http://www2.obopay.com/merchant/

43 https://www.popmoney.com/

44 http://www.zashpay.com/

45 https://venmo.com/

46 http://www.paymate.com/cms/index.php
 
There is no such thing as US tax for a non-resident alien. This is usually a disregarded entity (of if you filed as an LLC and as the only member in your company. This is often treated the same as a Sole proprietorship). Nothing to lose and you are not taking up some physical infrastructures like office rent, water bill etc in the US. You may want to have a closer look at the term "disregarded entity" for a single-member LLC. I have no idea about the UK.

Disclaimer: this is no legal advice. I am talking from my personal experience only. Goodluck!
exactly and as a non resident alien you will not get any credit card merchant contract at all! you need a US person with SSN and credit checks as a manager on the LLC in order to get any credit card processing contract in the USA
 

Patrick111, i see Paxum in your list.
I used this service and have mixed feelings.

Got my first payment their some years ago and ordered a Mastercard, paid for it but never got it.
I think i contacted them 10-15 times about it and they said "We have many orders you will get it"..

Never got it, and no money back.
These small things makes me not trust a company.​

 
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