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Offline SEO - Outsource to BHW

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by balexander26, Nov 9, 2011.

  1. balexander26

    balexander26 Newbie

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    So guys, I'm a bit new around here but I have spent countless hours reading stuff and learning and testing things on my own sites and using trial softwares and that sort of thing. I have read a couple of posts regarding searching for offline clients to do SEO work on their sites for them and charging quite a bit of a monthly fee.

    After reading through the numerous BST threads it seems to me that one could gain clients offline and outsource every bit of the work to BHW and still make a pretty good profit.

    Now, I am quite sure I am not the very first person to ever think of this idea so that is not the point of this thread.

    My real question is has anyone here done this or is anyone here currently doing it?

    Looking forward to seeing some replies and creating a discussion around this concept, what services people are using, in what order they are doing things, and that type of stuff.
     
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  2. JimmyConway

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    Yes, Im actually doing offline marketing locally. I am not going to disclose my results, however. Some very nice niches.
     
  3. balexander26

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    Hi Jimmy, I certainly am not asking for anyone's specific results or their niches. I was just curious about the actual concept of gaining offline clients and then outsourcing every bit of the work to BHW.

    I mean is it plausible, for example, to charge an offline client $1000 per month and then spend something like half of that on services that members here at BHW supply and everyone make a profit?
     
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    Xyz01 Regular Member Premium Member

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    Sure, but make sure you understand everything that is going on, otherwise they will ask you a question and you will look foolish as you might not know the answer :).
     
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  5. Georgebg

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    Quite a few of our customers own local SEO Agencies and charge their clients 750-1500$ per month, and then they outsource it to us for like 200-500$ per month depending on the work that needs to be done, so they are pocketing an average of 500$ per client profit,
     
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    I am having one such client :)
    he found me on BHW only I manage SEO for his local sites
    also the pay is good for me too

    so yes there are people who get buisness offline and outsource the work at BHW.
     
  7. balexander26

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    Yeah, this was an important thing for me. I have studied and studied and read and read and did things on my own with various programs just to get the feel of how things work and how they are supposed to look so that in the event I get questions I am able to answer them.

    Honestly, I wouldn't mind doing most of the work on my own (aside from writing the content, I hate writing) but in order to afford the necessary tools it will take some start up money so I figured at first it might be a good idea to do some outsourcing. Then once I have built a solid client base, I could purchase all necessary tools and begin doing some of the work myself and earning even more profit.
     
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    Does anyone have any recommendations for a particular service that is like an "All-in-One" aside from keyword research?

    For example, I would get the client, do the kw research and determine which keywords the client would like to rank for, get the check, then come to BHW and pick one service that I can give the data to and they do everything from start to finish and then all that would have to be done monthly as maintenance would be to continue backlinking.

    As I understand it, there are different entities here that specialize in particular things so I wasn't sure if there was like a catch all service that would include a little of everything.
     
  9. balexander26

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    What exactly is it that you offer?
     
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    Xyz01 Regular Member Premium Member

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    Outsource as much as possible, never do work manually.

    Outsource articles, there are some great sellers who sell articles really cheap.
    Outsource content, costs a little more for decent content but you can charge clients quite a bit for this.
    Outsource link building if needed to start of with.

    Create a cluster of virtual servers that run your client campaigns - try and aim for $100 a month or less (including tools) for each client. Start of small,
    outsourcing most work then hire workers to do this work for you. Make millions!
     
  11. OiOiOi

    OiOiOi Regular Member

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    I do exactly this. Get a list of services and estimated costs. Fiverr, LinkPushing, and LinkPwn are your friends. You are still going to have to learn on page and don't you dare push too hard on a brand new site.

    Might be unpopular, but not a bad idea to learn PPC either. Google gives away money if you become a certified reseller.
     
  12. infinitehorizons

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    ^^ the barrier to success

    ^^ George and Botwiz's products would be the best to do this with because they offer tracking and reporting as well as comprehensive solutions that are scalable for multiple clients.

    Just understand your market, and understand what they will need.

    OP your question is a golden goose of why BHW is a miracle. I was suprised that when I read this I never asked the exact question when I first got here :p.

    Trust me there are many many people here doing this. Not just with BHW products but with other sites too, matter of fact, the fortune 500 SEO's don't JUST have in house staff--they scale this idea and bring on partners who specialize in other areas--so this is nothing new.

    Where you become valuable and stand out is as a consultant who understands more than one dimension and how they all tie together. Your intellectual products. That is where the effort comes in, and to be able to sell it effectively to learn that sales process.

    I have spent these past months putting the best solutions in place to create a scalable process like the one you are talking about--there is tons of opportunity out there. It's creating something that is special and really delivers and then understanding the audience that presents the challenge. Even if you have successful business owners close to you, if you cannot intelligently explain what you will do, why it is important to their business, and how they can be confident that their money will be well spent with you, well; then you are just as well off as the Phillipino from a large call center, the fortune 500 registrar cold calling existing clients, the giant SEO firm that has an autodialer for every business in the US-- one of them will call that business owner within the next 5 hours to offer them web services in the same ineffective way ;)

    My recommendation is don't get distracted , it takes a long time to figure out how all these solutions can fit together and understand how to understand business and create customized solutions.

    Just pick one thing ^^ Linkfuser or Dripable is a good place to start, study it like a really difficult test, understand the process involved, and then go start talking to business owners who don't have SEO services in place (getting rarer each day) understand, damn near every business has heard from a company about this. You need to do something different in your approach--whether it be who you are approaching (previous relationship) or how you are approaching them (consulting process) just go start.

    Here's another hint--it doesn't have to be SEO--your idea applies to all things on this site--all things digital actually. Get creative ;)

    ∞
     
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    Yep. "Here client, try this $75 voucher and see if you like PPC".

    Ends up with most converting ;-).
     
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    Exactly! I also use it to buy me some time until BHW can get my clients ranked. Immediate results are always good. Over time you can scale back ppc and make more monies.
     
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    I just wrote a huge post about this if you want to check it out.
     
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    Can these types of services be replicated using senuke? Seems that they just submit to web 2.0 profiles, article directories, social bookmarking sites, and rss directories. Some do include scrapebox and xrumer blasts which cant be done using senuke.

    Im just curious if one could subscribe to senuke only and replicate most of what is being done here and then outsource the xrumer and scrapebox blasts.
     
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    IMHO scrapebox and Xrumer aren't as useful for offline SEO. For smaller clients at least, web 2.0s, article submissions, on page content, and Social bookmarking do the trick.
     
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    Of course it's plausible mate - the whole industry is built on outsourcing. Go to one specialist for one tasks, another for another, and so on. The point is, you have to understand SEO, customer service, proper reporting, and so on to hold it all together. So although you charge more for the SEO than you pay to the outsourcers, your time is worth something right? Do you think estate agents build houses ? No, they deal with planners, architects, builders and so on.... So an SEO firm is made up of all these things, and certainly you can work with the good folks here on BHW to find those specialist skills. But you need to understand them to hang it together...
     
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  19. jangozo

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    BHW is the Holly Grail of Local SEO Companies :)))))

    my clients are still online and i can double overprice on bhw packages and i charge low since in from poor yet country and can afford to ..
    imagine being local in usa/west eu ..
     
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    It is pretty nice my friend :D