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hotstox said:

it's good in theory, and please don't take offense to this because I am very appreciative of the share (and validation in a way, I've had similar ideas offline wise) but I am skeptical about the AM being okay with it. I mean that's basically opening up the network to a huge risk of cpa fraud. It would seem if you talked to them on the telephone, the am that is, and considering these are CC joins, giving you a pass is not all that unlikely (I know I have a mainstream, non ewhore business that I have affiliates for, and I would be okay with this under the right circumstances).

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well to be honest it wasn't actually a traditional CPA company. I only used the term for convenience and so that everybody would know what I was on about. It was an offline company that are going online and I was helping them get a good mailing list together. No reason why your AM would mind this. You could skype it I guess and let him view the process, that should shut him up.

blackma said:

well to be honest it wasn't actually a traditional CPA company. I only used the term for convenience and so that everybody would know what I was on about. It was an offline company that are going online and I was helping them get a good mailing list together. No reason why your AM would mind this. You could skype it I guess and let him view the process, that should shut him up.

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So the sign ups didn't have to put in the CC number?

fastmoney said:

So the sign ups didn't have to put in the CC number?

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yes they did

I am just trying to get this straight in my head.

So you are telling us that 14 people an hour, per girl, came up to your booth, your girl sold them on an idea of weight loss, these people sat down, filled out their personal info on an old dusty laptop and then they entered their credit card number for the cost of shipping and handling? That is a sale every 4 minutes, for how many hours straight.

I am not calling you a out, but I would bet if you had a hot chick standing around naked with a sign saying stick it in. I would bet real money, that there would be no way in hell or even be possible that 14 guys an hour would take advantage of that offer. Much less enter CC information on an old laptop at a booth.

Are you sure your numbers are right?

fastmoney said:

I am just trying to get this straight in my head.

So you are telling us that 14 people an hour, per girl, came up to your booth, your girl sold them on an idea of weight loss, these people sat down, filled out their personal info on an old dusty laptop and then they entered their credit card number for the cost of shipping and handling? That is a sale every 4 minutes, for how many hours straight.

I am not calling you a out, but I would bet if you had a hot chick standing around naked with a sign saying stick it in. I would bet real money, that there would be no way in hell or even be possible that 14 guys an hour would take advantage of that offer. Much less enter CC information on an old laptop at a booth.

Are you sure your numbers are right?

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yes, numbers are straight. try it out let me know how you get on. stop questioning. start doing

blackma said:

yes, numbers are straight. try it out let me know how you get on. stop questioning. start doing

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In the world of money making, I am sooo past hiring girls to stand at a booth pushing some diet pill deal..


This is only my opinion.. I mean no disrespect to the OP.

This method does not work, peeps don't waste your time.. you can think about it, but don't do it..

My best estimate is that a hot chick selling anything at a booth, with the right offer can maybe and I mean maybe sell 2 simple deals on her best hour, I would bet over a 7 hour period, that average would drop to less than one an hour. 14 an hour - no way.. can't happen.. a 100% free offer where all they have to do is put in their email address and they get a free t-shirt maybe, but entering a CC, sorry no way. Not going to happen, not even on your best day.

Now if you make $20 bucks an offer and can pay the girl half, I say go for it, but before you go through the trouble of all this set up, make sure the numbers in your head where you profit is less than 1 sale an hour.. and pray that you get that.


How do I know and why you should believe me? In the 90's I used to have 40-50 tables a weekend at 40-50 flea markets.. A weekend staff of over 100 people.. Selling a product people wanted at a great price and I never sold more than 1 an hour on average per person I had at the booth. There were a few times when sales totals averaged 2 or 3 an hour, but on average I sold way less then even 1 an hour per person..


Good Luck!

I agree 14 an hour is very high, but Cashflow at warriorforum (he sells a 10-page method with the same idea. It's called Simply Saturday Method i think) says he's earning $7000-$8000 every saturday by doing something very similar. $28 from every sign-up and is getting almost 300 sign-ups every saturday. 300sign-ups/10hrs/2promoters = 15 sign-ups an hour. Haven't bought his method, so I don't know how many people/laptops he use to promote, but if it's 2, then Cashflow and Blackma is getting the same results.

Maybe his hour is different than my hour,, maybe his hour is like 15 of mine.

What some people will believe, I am not trying to sell anything.. so there is no hype in my answer, just giving my advice.

Take it for what it's worth!

But before you spend anything, test it,, go to a street corner with a wireless laptop, tell anyone who fills out a form and inputs their cc for some diet pills, you will give them a 50 bill cash right now...

See how many you can get in an hour.. Then move it to 100.. I bet if you gave away $500 cash you would be hard pressed to get 15 people an hour to do it.

Then think to yourself if it will work.

Cashflow sells alot of BS - get the simply saturday method in the download section i think.

This method does not work - firstly your AM will have issues and secondly trying to get cc info is very difficult

BlackorWhite123 said:

Cashflow sells alot of BS - get the simply saturday method in the download section i think.

This method does not work - firstly your AM will have issues and secondly trying to get cc info is very difficult

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have you done it? No!?

i have and it works

my concern would be fronting all this money to pay people and then getting stiffed by the cpa network.

Yes Blackma i have done similar things and they never worked for me.

Maybe you just have the natural talent

blackma said:

have you done it? No!?

i have and it works

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Ya, blackorwhite123 I read the Cashflow simply saturday method from the downloads section and said to myself 'This method is probably BS, but fuck I'll give it a go anyhow' and it worked! God loves a tryer.

any updates on this?

I can't see that many people putting CC info into a computer for diet pills, even at a mall.

Here is my problem- the typical person who might want to try diet pills is going to be overweight, and likely self-conscious about it. Some hottie saying "Hey, want some free diet pills" would be greeted with embarrassment, if anything.

Some variation of this could be good, though...