Non Paying Client SUCKS

blackhatbeavis · Aug 7, 2014

How Can I spam a non paying clients website?

I did graphic design work and he is refusing to pay, stating he has other priorities first.

I was thinking of running 200k blog comments on Fiverr using his URL.

Any other suggestions?

TheUnborn · Aug 7, 2014

How much does he owe you? and Negative seo not allowed here!

BassTrackerBoats · Aug 7, 2014

Work out a payment plan with him and get the money owed.

ahiddenman · Aug 7, 2014

Always accept a 50% deposit upfront, I learnt from this mistake when I was freelancing in my early days.

Trepanated · Aug 7, 2014

Did the client sign your contract before the work commenced?

blackhatbeavis · Aug 7, 2014

He's simply paying other people ahead of me and has been doing so for several months now.

KHR · Aug 7, 2014

Dont do negative SEO. I just can say it.

Execute · Aug 7, 2014

Don't resort to negative seo, just keep contacting him, unless he says that he isn't going to pay you then you still have a chance to receive the funds.

netmoney1 · Aug 7, 2014

blackhatbeavis said:
He's simply paying other people ahead of me and has been doing so for several months now.

1. ALWAYS have them sign an iron clad contract, with penalties and late fees. This is 100% WORTH paying an attorney $500 to look over and create based on your location.

2. ALWAYS get at LEAST 50% before you lift your finger.

3. Establish a relationship with a collection company (and make sure that it is pointed out in your contract that after X days you reserve the right to sell the bad debt or assign it to a 3rd party collection agency) and send your bad debt to them, and then move on.

4. Don't waste time with deadbeats - they will suck the life out of you. If you do #1-3 you won't have to worry about #4

Initial Effort · Aug 8, 2014

With all the comments about negative SEO, I would suggest that if you decide to do that, at least run it through a 301 redirect so it can be removed.

tony_d · Aug 8, 2014

I think doing neg-seo is the worst thing you could do. Work it out with the client. If he's really a deadbeat, learn a lesson and move on.
It's not your job to try to balance the universe...

PHPInjected · Aug 8, 2014

Out of your list of remaining options, negative SEO is at the bottom. If I were in you shoes, I would try to get the client on some sort of payment plan or work out an arrangement. If you cannot do that, and have exhausted all forms of direct communication & options, then you can (if you want) write an article or two describing your experience with the client. Cite your sources and make sure to use the right keywords. If someone searches his email/name or how you maintained communication, an honest article or two about how poorly he does business is appropriate.

PopStarzz · Aug 8, 2014

No point in revenge, keep pursuing your money but there's not much you could do if they still refuse to pay so it might as well be a good idea to simply move on. But have better terms of service in future, desperation kills your business.

popcrdom29 · Aug 8, 2014

I see that you're in Florida and I assume that your client does as well. You can always threaten to take him to small claims court but first send him a demand for payment letter by certified mail. If it's not a lot of money then it might not be worth your time. If it is then you should pursue it in small claims court. I hope you had an agreement in writing on when you expected to be paid.

But I think just the mention of court may get him to pay you soon, at least we all hope so.

SEOSPERM · Aug 8, 2014

This reminds me of my previous days, I work for one client and refuse to pay me. Till today, I ask for 100% upfront payment always..!!

superduper7 · Aug 8, 2014

Yeah I've had a few of them they suck

3pmdigital · Aug 8, 2014

1. How much does he owe you?

2. Do you know if he is using your graphic work? if so, is it used in a commercial setting? ie business website/print?

3. Contract? I'm assuming not, but it doesn't matter much anyway because deadbeats don't show up in small claims court.

4. Going to reach a bit here... Do you have any conversations, texts, skypes or Facebook chats referencing the work or deal?

Answer these and I will have him beg you to accept his payment + bonus + interest + apologies.

BOOM-shaka-laka,

3PM

Spawn · Aug 8, 2014

I never lift a finger til I'm paid. I answer all questions and am very helpful pre sale but I don't start any work until I'm fully paid. If payment is a problem for them then move on

ice41 · Aug 8, 2014

Always create a contract, you can find lots of them online. Never start a job without upfront payment, and always be clear about the date of payment and how much it will be. Been there, done that.

Matt707 · Aug 8, 2014

First off like some have already mentioned above, negative SEO techniques aren't allowed on the forum... But I'd be glad to give you some advice.

Don't fight fire with fire. These days it's getting harder and harder to protect your reputation online and you don't need that kind of press.

ALWAYS get 50% upfront. Personally, I'm in love with a service called FreshBooks which is becoming more and more popular here on the forum. Their rates are dirt cheap and have plenty of tools to help you manage and invoice your clients. They even have advanced tools like auto-bill and client dashboards.

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