Negative reviews to take down competitor

Dont listen to any of these fools. Go to IRS.gov and file a Form 966. That'll show your competition that you are serious. They wont fuck with you or steal your staff, EVER AGAIN.

jsnow said:

So... I'm debating using fake negative reviews to take down a competitor... Anyone done that? What's your experience? Thoughts?

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Karma. Do it someone and the same will happen to you. Instead of being a tool, why not think outside the box and beat them without unethical, and border line illegal methods.

Karma is BS and what’s ethical is based on your own personality. The fact that you’re asking instead of just doing it is positive, I suppose.

My advise is don’t be a prick, but if you’re seriously considering doing this then our opinions mean about dick all.

Also, here in the UK if you have paid for your staffs training and they leave you within a certain period you would be eledgible for clawbacks dependant on their contracts.

TheAlmightyDada said:

Karma is BS and what’s ethical is based on your own personality. The fact that you’re asking instead of just doing it is positive, I suppose.

My advise is don’t be a prick, but if you’re seriously considering doing this then our opinions mean about dick all.

Also, here in the UK if you have paid for your staffs training and they leave you within a certain period you would be eledgible for clawbacks dependant on their contracts.

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I respectively disagree. Karma does happen in some cases. But hey-ho! Everyone has their own views.

jsnow said:

So... I'm debating using fake negative reviews to take down a competitor... Anyone done that? What's your experience? Thoughts?

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first post since may 2014 = very anti climactic .

OP, I presume you have an interview with staff before they leave. What reasons are they giving you?
Negative SEO is NOT the solution to your problems as it appears there are other underlying issues.

proxygo said:

first post since may 2014 = very anti climactic .

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Always trust ProxyGo for the good spots.

Asif WILSON Khan said:

OP, I presume you have an interview with staff before they leave. What reasons are they giving you?
Negative SEO is NOT the solution to your problems as it appears there are other underlying issues.

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This. Exit interviews are essential, especially in times of mass staff egression. You would be amazed at the amount of people that avoid them.

TheAlmightyDada said:

Always trust ProxyGo for the good spots.



This. Exit interviews are essential, especially in times of mass staff egression. You would be amazed at the amount of people that avoid them.

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Side note: I enjoy these. I've straight up told shit employers, that I am taking a SUBSTANTIAL PAY CUT, just to leave. That usually throws them back in their chair, like, "Fuck, I didn't realize I was acting like isnow. I'm sorry."

TheAlmightyDada said:

Always trust ProxyGo for the good spots.

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hay ive been away 2 weeks - bit rusty lols

jsnow said:

so is that a unanimous "no" to neg reviewing the assholes?

when is it ok to do something like this anyway?

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Never, absolute dick move. Be better than that, take the high road, the pixies always get them in the end!

Normally i'm getting positive review orders but sometimes negatives also, i have declined so many offers and requests!
that's not a fair, don't do it.

I think you should focus on your product

Is this BHW or HippieCentral? Reading all these "karma" or "dick move" high horse nonsense feels like you're living in some parallel universe. What, nobody voted Trump here either? Pfft.

Let me drop some real world knowledge here, since some of you obviously never ran your own business, but have options about it that are just so so SO very off it's ridiculous.

1. I love my employees. They are the smartest and most talented people I know. But they are also parts of my business machine.

OMG! This is outrageous! How can you compare people to "parts"?! You're a monster! But here's a thing - every business owner that employs more that 7 people thinks the same way. When I'm calling them "parts" I'm not dehumanising, on contrary - I expand their personas. They are both great people AND parts in my business machine. And my business machine relies heavily on these parts, so yeah - I take offence when someone comes to my shop and fucks around with my machine. You would too and if you claim you wouldn't - you're lying.

2. I've worked with this guy for close to 10 years, side by side. Top talent. Got offers from Facebook and Google, turned them down because he didn't want to work in a big company. Didn't want to leave, had no problem with me or my company. But he got approached by these assholes over and over again. They kept asking him why he isn't signing with them. "Oh, you want this? Well, no problem - we'll deliver" and "You want that? Sure thing, just sign with us". Little by little he ran of excuses. If you're familiar with basic sales psychology - you know how this process works. So yeah - I take offence when someone comes to my shop and persuades my employees to leave.

3. You keep saying "well, be a better employer" or "it's a free market". Free market my ass. There's no such thing as "free" period. Every action has a reaction, that's the law of nature. And "you can do anything" mantra works in every fucking direction. For things that you do and that happen to you. Good AND bad. So being a "better employer" will do nothing for you against hostile takeovers. Nothing but fighting back will do anything for you when you're attacked. Besides, I don't have a problem with them leaving (I could have easily kept everyone from walking away if my trust in them was still there), I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MOTHERFUCKERS POACHING MY TALENT. How is being a "better employer" gonna help? Will you put a bandaid on a brain tumour and hope it goes away? I sure ain't gonna be that stupid.

Exit interviews - sure, I got them. They will give you answers, but they will not give you the truth. Not because they're bullshitting me, but because they're bullshitting themselves. They have to, otherwise they might actually understand what they're doing. And that ain't gonna sit well with them.

So yeah, I'm coming across as a major asshole here, I see it. But I'm not, I promise.

And just for the record - I didn't do anything. I came here for advise and a meaningful conversation (which I didn't get, btw). So on this note I'd like to send a big FUCK YOU to all the cunt shit turds here that called me everything under the sun for no reason whatsoever. And the next time @proxygo points out why someone hasn't visited in forever - remember this thread.

This is some "Nightcrawler" shit

jsnow said:

on this note I'd like to send a big FUCK YOU to all the cunt shit turds here that called me everything under the sun for no reason whatsoever. And the next time @proxygo points out why someone hasn't visited in forever - remember this thread.

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Are you sure you employ people? You seem to come across as a child, maybe this is one of your issues.

Where do you employ people? The school tuck shop?

At least you were clever enough to remove your company website from your profile.................24hrs after declaring you wanted to slander your competitors !!

I get the feeling you don't employ too many people but at least you are trying your hardest.....thats all that matters.

t0mmy said:

You would be an absolute low life cunt if you did that nonsense. I hope you don't.. there are better ways to compete than resorting to that shit.

I've had this done to me by a few low life competitors in the past, it's not nice when you've put in hard work, time and money to build your brand.

Don't be that guy OP..

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Could not agree more! I have had it happen to me. There are crazy people out there that think they are Tony fucking Montana and have to destroy the competition in order to compete. It's the antithesis of competing. We had a crazy try and mess with one of our brands so we got the FBI involved and the rest is history as well as the competitor.

jsnow said:

they are poaching my best talent

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jsnow said:

whey they underperform I have to say it like it is and that's when they scoop in

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OK so which one is it??? You say they are your best talent but then you go on to say they are under-preforming. If your best talent is under-preforming you have bigger problems than the competition and should be happy that they are getting scooped up by them.

Either way as many have pointed out, spending time and energy doing positive things for your own business will vastly outperform negative actions taken against competitors.

It sucks when things like this happen, there is no denying that but resorting to things like this is probably not the best option. I wish you luck in resolving it.

Instead of hunting down your competitor, focus on his actual flaws and how you can use them to make your product better: will serve you better in long-term perspective

mickyfu said:

Are you sure you employ people? You seem to come across as a child, maybe this is one of your issues.

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So your idea of maturity is to take the shit from random strangers on the internet and stay silent? Or lack passion for what you do and be bland? It's a hard "no" for me.

mickyfu said:

Where do you employ people? The school tuck shop?

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What an odd place to hire people, but whatever tickles your fancy

Duffers5000 said:

At least you were clever enough to remove your company website from your profile.................24hrs after declaring you wanted to slander your competitors !!

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OMG! No way! Was I that stupid? Or was it a site for a platform I used a long time ago to give away BHW members free tweets from my Twitter bot network, which you could have easily figured out if you would have clicked or saw my post history before making a fool of yourself?

Duffers5000 said:

I get the feeling you don't employ too many people but at least you are trying your hardest.....thats all that matters.

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Well, at least something matters, since your opinion doesn't

William702 said:

OK so which one is it??? You say they are your best talent but then you go on to say they are under-preforming. If your best talent is under-preforming you have bigger problems than the competition and should be happy that they are getting scooped up by them.

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These things are not mutually exclusive, but I see your point and it's a good one. What I was saying is that everyone makes mistakes and everyone needs guidance.

William702 said:

Either way as many have pointed out, spending time and energy doing positive things for your own business will vastly outperform negative actions taken against competitors. It sucks when things like this happen, there is no denying that but resorting to things like this is probably not the best option. I wish you luck in resolving it.

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Thanks

jsnow said:

So your idea of maturity is to take the shit from random strangers on the internet and stay silent? Or lack passion for what you do and be bland? It's a hard "no" for me.

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No, but this is me idea of immaturity.

jsnow said:

So on this note I'd like to send a big FUCK YOU to all the cunt shit turds here that called me everything under the sun for no reason whatsoever. And the next time @proxygo points out why someone hasn't visited in forever - remember this thread.

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Plus I think your whole story is very likely seriously over exaggerated nonsense.

Reality is probably someone you used to buy Fiverr gigs off has had enough and is working on someone else's shite site.