Need suggestions on how to find KGR Keywords.

rajputt65

rajputt65

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Hey Everyone,

Hope you're all doing great and ranking on a higher side as Google Broad Core algorithm update is rolling on.

Well, i need some suggestions, tricks, ways, tools or whatever on "How to find KGR keywords?".
 
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Search KGR in the search bar you will get some threads talked about it.

Also, you know KGR coined by a guy, you can easily find his blog to read more details, allintitle also has some tips, tricks, plus tool explicitly built for this purpose, never tried that myself though.

Some members here shared tricks to find KGR keywords, please search it. Or site:blackhatworld.com KGR
 
Don't do KGR man. Times have changed, KGR is no longer a good way. It's all about topical relevancy now.
 
terrycody said:
Search KGR in the search bar you will get some threads talked about it.

Also, you know KGR coined by a guy, you can easily find his blog to read more details, allintitle also has some tips, tricks, plus tool explicitly built for this purpose, never tried that myself though.

Some members here shared tricks to find KGR keywords, please search it. Or site:blackhatworld.com KGR
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Thanks buddy. Will look into it. :)
 
Dark Sky said:
Don't do KGR man. Times have changed, KGR is no longer a good way. It's all about topical relevancy now.
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Yeah, i got your point you're right. But still wanna try out something. :)
 
Dark Sky said:
Don't do KGR man. Times have changed, KGR is no longer a good way. It's all about topical relevancy now.
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I doubt KGR would be bad for him - there's good reason with the formula - not entirely bulletproof but a lot of the KGR keywords rank fast still.

Even Mods here recommend it/

Best for someone who needs traction in the first few weeks-months and for someone who doesn't have much budget with link building.
 
Find relevant keyword ideas. One of my favorite ways to find KGR compliant terms is to use Google Autosuggest and this format:
Filter out keywords with search volume higher than 250.
Find the number of websites with exact match titles.
 
Josh Saga said:
I doubt KGR would be bad for him - there's good reason with the formula - not entirely bulletproof but a lot of the KGR keywords rank fast still.

Even Mods here recommend it/

Best for someone who needs traction in the first few weeks-months and for someone who doesn't have much budget with link building.
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Topical relevancy is kind of a replacement to backlinks, without google removing backlinks from it's system.

Who's more of an expert on a topic? Someone who has 300 articles, or new york times who has 1 article but lots of backlinks :)

I don't doubt you can rank with KGR, I've done it myself, but it's incredibly inefficient in comparison to topical relevancy in my opinion.
 
Dark Sky said:
Topical relevancy is kind of a replacement to backlinks, without google removing backlinks from it's system.

Who's more of an expert on a topic? Someone who has 300 articles, or new york times who has 1 article but lots of backlinks :)

I don't doubt you can rank with KGR, I've done it myself, but it's incredibly inefficient in comparison to topical relevancy in my opinion.
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IMO KGR and topical relevance go hand in hand. The keywords are often very specific and aren't covered online so by answering terms you get higher rankings, easy traffic, topic relevance etc. I agree though, KGR can be hit or miss, you need a good 20+ articles to see correlation and to see results. Some do crap some ok and some knock it out the park and can get heaps of traffic. I think a mix of big long form content and KGR is useful.

@rajputt65

  1. Do keyword research
  2. Check for KGR
Most people do this manually, there's ways of automating but I doubt you'll find anyone discussing how (I know I won't be). I won't be sharing my methods because it works well and it defeats the point of KGR if people know how to scale to tens/hundreds of thousands of keywords, there will be barely any KGR terms left, it's already tricky if not impossible in some niches.

If you don't want to do the work yourself I recommend outsourcing.
 
Holzr said:
I won't be sharing my methods because it works well and it defeats the point of KGR if people know how to scale to tens/hundreds of thousands of keywords, there will be barely any KGR terms left, it's already tricky if not impossible in some niches.

If you don't want to do the work yourself I recommend outsourcing.
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I follow your method (your old Keyword Research Thread) + KGR - it was such a great help.

I also agree, I tried to do KGR on Niches like Pharma - Health - Digital Marketing - SEO and there's barely any left lol
 
search count on Google results that have the keyword phrase in the title, divided by the monthly search volume, where the search volume is less than 250.

so use long tail keyword like (best ----------- ------ ) and it will give you many keywords. use above formula on those keyword and identify the KGR.
 
Holzr said:
IMO KGR and topical relevance go hand in hand. The keywords are often very specific and aren't covered online so by answering terms you get higher rankings, easy traffic, topic relevance etc. I agree though, KGR can be hit or miss, you need a good 20+ articles to see correlation and to see results. Some do crap some ok and some knock it out the park and can get heaps of traffic. I think a mix of big long form content and KGR is useful.

@rajputt65

  1. Do keyword research
  2. Check for KGR
Most people do this manually, there's ways of automating but I doubt you'll find anyone discussing how (I know I won't be). I won't be sharing my methods because it works well and it defeats the point of KGR if people know how to scale to tens/hundreds of thousands of keywords, there will be barely any KGR terms left, it's already tricky if not impossible in some niches.

If you don't want to do the work yourself I recommend outsourcing.
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I agree to some extent, this is just my opinion as there is no "right" way to do SEO, there is only a wrong way, and I don't see KGR being a wrong way as it can bring in traffic.

I've found that low comp topics bring me in much more traffic than KGR terms ever did, as I gain more and more articles, I move up the competition with topics and topic size.

I also found the topics from KGR hard to write good content for, I personally feel it's a KGR keyword for a reason, I.E a lot of the ones I found were outdated products on amazon that are no longer supplied, or specific questions that were really really specific and found it hard to write an article for such a specific question. And even then it didn't have much search volume in it's keyword cluster. Ergo I personally class it as inefficient,

But for some people it works, so I don't doubt it as a viable strategy, it was just a very inefficient strategy for me.
 
Dark Sky said:
I agree to some extent, this is just my opinion as there is no "right" way to do SEO, there is only a wrong way, and I don't see KGR being a wrong way as it can bring in traffic.

I've found that low comp topics bring me in much more traffic than KGR terms ever did, as I gain more and more articles, I move up the competition with topics and topic size.

I also found the topics from KGR hard to write good content for, I personally feel it's a KGR keyword for a reason, I.E a lot of the ones I found were outdated products on amazon that are no longer supplied, or specific questions that were really really specific and found it hard to write an article for such a specific question. And even then it didn't have much search volume in it's keyword cluster. Ergo I personally class it as inefficient,

But for some people it works, so I don't doubt it as a viable strategy, it was just a very inefficient strategy for me.
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I completely agree with you - it's just that earlier you told OP to drop KGR - when it's one of the options that would benefit him.

Other than that, I completely agree with you, there's no 'definite' way. But giving him options that has a good possibility to work is still giving him good options
 
Josh Saga said:
I completely agree with you - it's just that earlier you told OP to drop KGR - when it's one of the options that would benefit him.

Other than that, I completely agree with you, there's no 'definite' way. But giving him options that has a good possibility to work is still giving him good options
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Yes, my opinion is he should still drop KGR, I was trying to say that from my experience of trying both on a new website, low comp topics won when it came to bringing traffic in, and won by far. So for me, KGR will never be used again as I find it inefficient, and thus I would suggest to others to drop it. That is my personal advice, it doesn't mean I'm right, but I feel KGR is dead due to google has moved massively towards topics rather than keywords.

However, it's still a viable strategy, e.g. you can get traffic from it. Again, from my experience, I got tons more traffic when I dropped the KGR method. We don't really rank for a single keyword anymore, we rank for a topic. And KGR is based entirely on a single keyword.

As I'd advise anyone, if your not sure, and you still cant find your answer from other people, then just try it and experiment. There is no harm writing a couple of KGR articles, and low comp topic articles and seeing which method does better.
 
Josh Saga said:
I doubt KGR would be bad for him - there's good reason with the formula - not entirely bulletproof but a lot of the KGR keywords rank fast still.

Even Mods here recommend it/

Best for someone who needs traction in the first few weeks-months and for someone who doesn't have much budget with link building.
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Yes, you got it. Agreed with you.
 
Yuga said:
Find relevant keyword ideas. One of my favorite ways to find KGR compliant terms is to use Google Autosuggest and this format:
Filter out keywords with search volume higher than 250.
Find the number of websites with exact match titles.
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Sorry to say but i didn't get your format. What should i do after finding the number of websites with exact match titles? Is it any kind of riddle?
 
Dark Sky said:
Topical relevancy is kind of a replacement to backlinks, without google removing backlinks from it's system.

Who's more of an expert on a topic? Someone who has 300 articles, or new york times who has 1 article but lots of backlinks :)

I don't doubt you can rank with KGR, I've done it myself, but it's incredibly inefficient in comparison to topical relevancy in my opinion.
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Ammmm...well we're going off the track actually. I just asked for the ways to find KGR keywords so that i can setup few blogs quickly and accordingly. Topical relevancy is the another topic mate.
 
Holzr said:
IMO KGR and topical relevance go hand in hand. The keywords are often very specific and aren't covered online so by answering terms you get higher rankings, easy traffic, topic relevance etc. I agree though, KGR can be hit or miss, you need a good 20+ articles to see correlation and to see results. Some do crap some ok and some knock it out the park and can get heaps of traffic. I think a mix of big long form content and KGR is useful.

@rajputt65

  1. Do keyword research
  2. Check for KGR
Most people do this manually, there's ways of automating but I doubt you'll find anyone discussing how (I know I won't be). I won't be sharing my methods because it works well and it defeats the point of KGR if people know how to scale to tens/hundreds of thousands of keywords, there will be barely any KGR terms left, it's already tricky if not impossible in some niches.

If you don't want to do the work yourself I recommend outsourcing.
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You're right. Thanks for the kind and feasible suggestion. :)
 
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